Hey guys
I have been messing around with the old senators lately and decided to bring some life back into the old Penn 1/0. It started out as something small and now I think I have built me a mini tank!
Here is what I did. Started out with a Stock 1/0 I got off Ebay.
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First thing I set out to do was double dog this little guy. The reel comes with a 15-60 dog and I spoke to Keta and all he had where 112h ss dogs. So I got to 112h and dremeled them down to fit. I set them up as alternating.
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The reel came with a brass bridge and I think the steel ones just look so much nicer. So I swapped the bridges and placed SS sleeve. Also, I took one of the spacing sleeves Black Pearl offers and added that to. The spacer helped with flexing and any tilt might get from having the dogs alternating.
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Then I threw in one of Bryan's 5+1 stacks in. Very nice and smooth! Also, I put a new and cleaner 5-60 main gear in.
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah105/jdanchise/Mobile%20Uploads/20141027_152845_zpse61f504c.jpg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/jdanchise/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141027_152845_zpse61f504c.jpg.html)(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah105/jdanchise/Mobile%20Uploads/20141027_153403_zpsb13d7486.jpg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/jdanchise/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141027_153403_zpsb13d7486.jpg.html)
Then when I was going through Scott's Bait and Tackle site I notices they had a different ss pinion gear (#13-140) that had replaced the old ones in some of the reels that carried the 5-60 gears. I ordered it up and swapped it out. However I had to dremel the inside of the pinion slight where it fits into the bushing on the side plate. Working GREAT and smooth now. Note that the new pinion gear does not fit on the brass spool so I swapped it for an aluminum 501 spool.
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Slammed it all back together with a nice Tiburon 501 Spool and Frame. Then a nice handle. Here it is!
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah105/jdanchise/Mobile%20Uploads/20141029_191234_zps5ab86f92.jpg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/jdanchise/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141029_191234_zps5ab86f92.jpg.html)
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah105/jdanchise/Mobile%20Uploads/20141029_191254_zpsff3595e2.jpg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/jdanchise/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141029_191254_zpsff3595e2.jpg.html)
(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah105/jdanchise/Mobile%20Uploads/20141029_191309_zps40011524.jpg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/jdanchise/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141029_191309_zps40011524.jpg.html)
All said and done pushing 15lbs of drag, however I wouldn't push over 10lb as of right now but plan to really push this guy to its limits. With that all said The Jigmaster 501 has bigger gears and drag however just something about this little Mini Tank carrying the Senator name.
Beautiful job fisHsTiiCkS, I love it!
Quote from: Alto Mare on October 30, 2014, 02:58:29 AM
Beautiful job fisHsTiiCkS, I love it!
Thanks! Its now my favorite reel! But it was all possible because of the work you did and all the members on this great site!
Certainly the most upgraded 1/0 extant. Very nice!
Good Job Fishsticks. Looks Great! ;)
Quote from: George4741 on October 30, 2014, 03:21:34 AM
Certainly the most upgraded 1/0 extant. Very nice!
Yeah i got pretty carried away with the upgrades but its a sweet reel!
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 30, 2014, 03:40:24 AM
Good Job Fishsticks. Looks Great! ;)
Thanks guys!!
I did a 1/0 & kept it original except for the SS Bars & 501 Aluminum Spool. It's on a Plinth in front of me.
Your reel is really sharp looking.
Mike
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 30, 2014, 04:07:11 AM
I did a 1/0 & kept it original except for the SS Bars & 501 Aluminum Spool. It's on a Plinth in front of me.
Your reel is really sharp looking.
Mike
They are great little reels arent they! Sporting that senator name! Can't wait to get out on the water with this bad boy.
Way more torque than a 501. And with your upgrades will do the same drag as a built 501. Perfect live bait reel, lots of 40-50# braid and nice slow retrieve. Medium retrieve I guess because a Surfmaster would be slower.
My kind of reel for sure.
Ron
That's nice 8) What's the gear ratio on it"
Marc..
Nice. Looks just like my narrowed long beach 259 minus the double dog and aluminum frame.
Beautiful little reel. Almost toooooo nice to fish! Good work.
Bob
Quote from: noyb72 on October 30, 2014, 06:24:51 AM
Way more torque than a 501. And with your upgrades will do the same drag as a built 501. Perfect live bait reel, lots of 40-50# braid and nice slow retrieve. Medium retrieve I guess because a Surfmaster would be slower.
My kind of reel for sure.
Ron
Live baiting is exactly what I plan using it for!
Quote from: Marcq on October 30, 2014, 06:25:30 AM
That's nice 8) What's the gear ratio on it"
Marc..
With the new pinion gear the gear ratio is 3.3:1 I think.
Just a perfect reel --
Both for the parts that obviously show -- and more importantly, what doesn't show under the hood.
Colors are pretty -- but my vote always goes to a silver frame -- it matches the metal on the reel already -- and after 100 fishing trips -- will still look like new.
Great thought went into this tough little tank.
Thanks for sharing!
Best,
Fred
Did you put SS screws in the reel????
Mike
Lovely job - Almost too nice to fish ;)
Quote from: foakes on October 30, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Just a perfect reel --
Both for the parts that obviously show -- and more importantly, what doesn't show under the hood.
Colors are pretty -- but my vote always goes to a silver frame -- it matches the metal on the reel already -- and after 100 fishing trips -- will still look like new.
Great thought went into this tough little tank.
Thanks for sharing!
Best,
Fred
Thanks Fred I appreciate the kind words!
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 30, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Did you put SS screws in the reel????
Mike
No its the stock screws but ss screws arent a bad idea! Also would love to get an ss yoke for this Little Tank. Few more things I might still do to it.
I did the SS screws on my 99. All that's around is flat head screws. I cut my screws to length & put the screws in the Dramel ground the heads a little thinner then normal using a Diamond Stone. Using the same Stone with the screw in it hold the Dramel at about a 45* angle & grind the head of the screw to your liking. They look nice this way & they are flush with the ring.
Mike
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 30, 2014, 06:05:07 PM
I did the SS screws on my 99. All that's around is flat head screws. I cut my screws to length & put the screws in the Dramel ground the heads a little thinner then normal using a Diamond Stone. Using the same Stone with the screw in it hold the Dramel at about a 45* angle & grind the head of the screw to your liking. They look nice this way & they are flush with the ring.
Mike
Mike you got me real interested in the SS screws after a little looking a found some nice ss screws! These were made originally for newell reels, but or an almost direct drop in due to the tib frame.
This is the ss screw and original side by side. The ss screw is just slightly longer and the great thing is it already has the 45 degree angle on the screw head.
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The orginal screw have a rounded head like this.
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Now with the ss screws in! Looks sweet and of course each screw is still greased
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(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah105/jdanchise/Mobile%20Uploads/20141110_164822_zps57f95269.jpg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/jdanchise/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141110_164822_zps57f95269.jpg.html)
Also added a ss arm and new handle.
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Now if I can just get someone to cut me an ss yoke lol. When is Lee back!
The Newell Screws are called Oval Head. The screws that I worked with are called Flat Head. You can get all the Flat Head SS Screws that you want at McMaster & Carr but Oval Head are hard to find in mass.
Mike
Quote from: bluefish69 on November 11, 2014, 03:35:56 AM
The Newell Screws are called Oval Head. The screws that I worked with are called Flat Head. You can get all the Flat Head SS Screws that you want at McMaster & Carr but Oval Head are hard to find in mass.
Mike
I found mine at uluajunkies.com they have them in 3/8 and 3/4 size.
WOW!!! what a beautiful, solid looking little reel.....much nicer than any jig master because of the double rings and stronger attachment of the side plate to the frame. Never did like the turnkey type on the jig masters and squidders (just my taste)
Congratulations on a great job.
Basto
Quote from: basto on November 25, 2014, 02:08:19 AM
WOW!!! what a beautiful, solid looking little reel.....much nicer than any jig master because of the double rings and stronger attachment of the side plate to the frame. Never did like the turnkey type on the jig masters and squidders (just my taste)
Congratulations on a great job.
Basto
I know what you mean! I had a thumb screw on a jigmaster break on me while hooked into a yft! So I definitely feel more confident with the double rings! Thanks for the kind words!
Awesome! This little guy would be a killer Tog and Trigger reel for a kayak. Nice job sir.
awesome!
after seeing this I just put in bids for two 1/0's on ebay. marked the spools and frames so if I win I can buy them too. will be fun to do them this winter. thinking they will make nice trolling reels for kings on the kayak.
Well I finished mine tonight. This is my second 1/0 ever, since I had zero luck about 10 years ago on an Ebay project. We didn't have the upgrades and finding parts was rough. So I sold it. Anyway.....
I bought this one off Ebay since it looked a lot cleaner in pics. So right away I dropped in Bryan's 5 stack, an anniversary spool and a new-old-stock AccuFrame from Randy. Then I noticed the out side ring screws were sitting a bit high. So I then realized someone had put this thing together with an inside ring, on the outside, and it doesn't have a taper to the holes so the screws sit flush. So MysticParts.com to the rescue. I then figured I might as well get the SS sleeve too. Then the work started. I couldn't get the new SS pin in so I started filing away on the post. Still had a bit of a problem as I mushroomed the pin driving it in. Back to the brass pin that dropped right in, hmmm.
Then I fit one of the Chui spacers to the side plate, but it wouldn't fit over the new sleeve. Get out the round file,(no not the trash can), and filed away until it dropped on barely snug. Yay.
Then I put it back together and noticed my star hits the oil port, hmm. No longer spacers available so I raided my stash of Bryan's thin washers, put it under the star and voila! She's clicking and purring. Now as soon as my larger star gets here it'll be complete.
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Quote from: Rancanfish on August 22, 2015, 05:03:52 AM
Well I finished mine tonight. This is my second 1/0 ever, since I had zero luck about 10 years ago on an Ebay project. We didn't have the upgrades and finding parts was rough. So I sold it. Anyway.....
I bought this one off Ebay since it looked a lot cleaner in pics. So right away I dropped in Bryan's 5 stack, an anniversary spool and a new-old-stock AccuFrame from Randy. Then I noticed the out side ring screws were sitting a bit high. So I then realized someone had put this thing together with an inside ring, on the outside, and it doesn't have a taper to the holes so the screws sit flush. So MysticParts.com to the rescue. I then figured I might as well get the SS sleeve too. Then the work started. I couldn't get the new SS pin in so I started filing away on the post. Still had a bit of a problem as I mushroomed the pin driving it in. Back to the brass pin that dropped right in, hmmm.
Then I fit one of the Chui spacers to the side plate, but it wouldn't fit over the new sleeve. Get out the round file,(no not the trash can), and filed away until it dropped on barely snug. Yay.
Then I put it back together and noticed my star hits the oil port, hmm. No longer spacers available so I raided my stash of Bryan's thin washers, put it under the star and voila! She's clicking and purring. Now as soon as my larger star gets here it'll be complete.
Pictures pictures pictures, how can I be expected to vicariously live through these great projects without the visuals? Now you have to tear it down and take pictures putting it back together. I'll wait here, on my couch.
OK since I now can post pics, I decided to add them for you David!
And a final pic, since AT.com told me I couldn't add any more pics in the previous post.
very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you that is a snappy looking little beauty. Pics much appreciated.
Great looking reel. Congratulations..!!
I finally got around to looking into my other 1/0, and found the brass gear sleeve at the handle end is rounded off. So I popped the pin out to swap with another gear sleeve and noticed the post is skinny on this bridge. My replacement gear sleeve has a bunch of slop.
Does anyone know which gear sleeve to use as a replacement? And or which SS gear sleeve to use.
My first build didn't have this issue I don't think. (Or it did and I didn't notice?).
Thanks for any info.
Pics needed? Pic#1 shows bridge post and sleeve with cutout area on bottom to cover oiled felt on post. Pic #2 shows stock sleeve on bottom with a smaller I.D.
I've ran into that same problem Randy on a 9/0. I just swapped the bridge. A 99 or 250 bridge will work according to Scott's. Part # 3-99. Unfortunately, they don't have any.
If someone will remind me I should have that bridge. I'll PM you my phone number so you text me.
Keith
That will be awesome Keith! I really want this together on time for salmon season. I PM'd you because I know you're busy. I'll pay ya directly.
I don't use down riggers so I need some low gear grunt.
I already have the 965's set up for rockies.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I just finished one for an old guy that loves them with the super low gear ratio.
Count me as another old guy that loves them.
But if it weren't for Fishsticks here starting this thread, I would not have known.
PS Sent you a text Keith as instructed.
I couldn't find a 99 or 250. Anything else to fit?
I have 113's, 60's, 65's, 85's, 200's, 155's, 155's left hand, and one 3-9.
I have one, send me a PM with your address and I will send it out on Monday.
Joel8080
Thanks for the look Keith.
Joel8080 I am sending a PM shortly. Thanks.
UPDATE - Thanks to Joel and another friend, I can pull this 1/0 together, and post up some pics (when I'm done) of this sweet little troller.
She lives !!!! Just finished up. Didn't get to do all my upgrades, but thanks to Joel8080, Randy @ Vintage and others for their contributions. This thing sat on a tray for 3 weeks, so yay!
How hard was it to double dog reel?
I'm pretty new to this but after spending alot of time on this site I've gotten pretty comfortable with my newell reels so I thought I'd step my game up to the penn senators. I have a 1/0 coming so I thought I'd start with that. I have a tiburon frame that will work and getting a spool and a drag kit should be no trick but where can I get the other parts?
Alot of good info on this tread to get me going in the right direction and the pictures sealed the deal. A reel that size with alot of torque will be really useful. Really beautiful work.
Thanks
I think these little reels are awesome. Just got my frame today. Thanks to all here for the handle, drag set, and frame. Now just need to double dog
Nice job. These are great little reels, I have three now.
I'm holding off on double dogging mine. Not sure I'll ever stress it enough.
Just got to take mine on an all day fishing trip. Unfortunately didn't catch anything big enough to stress test drags. Did catch a bunch of gray snapper (aka grunts). Going to tear back into the reel. Something is just a little off and I cant put my finger on it. I have a little scrubbing sound occasionally when reeling in fish and some back play.
Quote from: Rancanfish on March 24, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
Pics needed? Pic#1 shows bridge post and sleeve with cutout area on bottom to cover oiled felt on post. Pic #2 shows stock sleeve on bottom with a smaller I.D.
Is the oiled felt disk shown on the post a stock part? I don't remember seeing it when I serviced my 110.(http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12080.0;attach=19400;image)
Over the years there were several gear sleeve/gear post designs, this oiling felt being one of them. The most annoying design is the one with the smaller diameter post...known for throwing a cog in the wheel when wanting to upgrade to a stainless steel sleeve. 8)
Been wanting to do a 1/0 for awhile and trying to find a "victim". I do have a 259 live bait caster and thinking of using that instead. Is it pretty much a wide 1/0 and the same tib frame and spool would work? Would the 259 be a good canidate for the available upgrades or should I keep looking for a 1/0. Thanks
Quote from: mo65 on March 16, 2018, 02:34:34 PM Over the years there were several gear sleeve/gear post designs, this oiling felt being one of them.
Ok, so there was nothing there when I pulled off the sleeve, no washer or felt. The sleeve just sat on the post by itself. So this is the stock configuration then?
How much max drag do you get ?,,,,,how much line does it hold? :) :D ;D
Capacity wise, it uses a 501 spool.
Quote from: Swami805 on March 16, 2018, 04:37:36 PM
Been wanting to do a 1/0 for awhile and trying to find a "victim". I do have a 259 live bait caster and thinking of using that instead. Is it pretty much a wide 1/0 and the same tib frame and spool would work? Would the 259 be a good canidate for the available upgrades or should I keep looking for a 1/0. Thanks
Sheridan, yes the 259 is just about the same. As Mo mentioned above, some come with an older bridge with a thin post that won't work with the SS sleeves. Here is a post where GFish ran into that: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17534.msg255990#msg255990 If you need the newer bridge, I may be able to help. /Joe
Thanks Joe. I think I have something that should work
Yeah. Joe came to my rescue with a 3-99 bridge that'ed fit a ss gear sleeve upgrade. Those larger OD-stud 3-99 bridges are getting hard to find. Looked at trying to make a 3-500 or a 3-60 bridge plate fit, but just couldn't line the screw holes up with the 259 plate. The reason I used a 113H stand with 6 total screws was cause a the width a the 259 spool and the possible need to strengthen the frame, given the other upgrades.
Quote from: Decker on March 22, 2018, 02:54:46 PMAs Mo mentioned above, some come with an older bridge with a thin post that won't work with the SS sleeves. If you need the newer bridge, I may be able to help. /Joe
Joe - can you measure the width of the post on that newer bridge? Thx.
Quote from: nelz on March 23, 2018, 02:18:47 AM
Joe - can you measure the width of the post on that newer bridge? Thx.
Sorry, Nelz, don't have one handy, but will let you know if I come across it. /Joe
I'm not confident in the accuracy of my calipers, but I measured ~ 5.5 mm (0.2165") for a newer post and ~ 4.76 mm (0.1875) for the older narrow post.
Mike
You would get away with the thinner post, but will need to replace the spacing sleeve with one of these:
https://squareup.com/store/pro-challenger-llc/item/spacing-sleeve
One of the best upgrade out there and priced right.
Most of my reels have one.
The handle will feel a little stiff at first, but will work itself in nicely.
There is zero side way movement with the gear sleeve, no matter if the post is thinner or not...that reminds me I need to order some more.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 23, 2018, 10:53:23 AM
You would get away with the thinner post, but will need to replace the spacing sleeve with one of these:
https://squareup.com/store/pro-challenger-llc/item/spacing-sleeve
One of the best upgrade out there and priced right.
Most of my reels have one.
The handle will feel a little stiff at first, but will work itself in nicely.
There is zero side way movement with the gear sleeve, no matter if the post is thinner or not...that reminds me I need to order some more.
Sal
uncle sal,,,,how much max drag you think there getting?and how much 18lb or 20lb mono does it hold ;D
Quote from: Benni3 on March 23, 2018, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 23, 2018, 10:53:23 AM
You would get away with the thinner post, but will need to replace the spacing sleeve with one of these:
https://squareup.com/store/pro-challenger-llc/item/spacing-sleeve
One of the best upgrade out there and priced right.
Most of my reels have one.
The handle will feel a little stiff at first, but will work itself in nicely.
There is zero side way movement with the gear sleeve, no matter if the post is thinner or not...that reminds me I need to order some more.
Sal
uncle sal,,,,how much max drag you think there getting?and how much 18lb or 20lb mono does it hold ;D
Not sure what they're getting, yours I'm giving you the ok to push it to 20 lb. ;)
As for line capacity, figure 350 yds. of 20# mono... maybe 400, I don't remember.
Your reel is almost done, I made a mistake on ordering the inner rings, I ordered 1 instead of 2, I thought I did have 2 on there ::).
The second one should be here today or tomorrow, Scott's doesn't mess around when it comes to speedy delivery :).
I've been able to shim some a my gear sleeves and eliminate about 90% a the horizontal movement. I've found that old ball bearing shields fit well and look to be made a ss. So, these P. Challenger spacer sleeves get ridda the vertical slop on all stock reels using the 98-60 sleeve? How about the Cortez Conversion plates?
Edit: horizontal for me = in & out movement and vertical = wiggling back and forth.
Quote from: Gfish on March 23, 2018, 04:39:02 PM
I've been able to shim some a my gear sleeves and eliminate about 90% a the horizontal movement. I've found that old ball bearing shields fit well and look to be made a ss. So, these P. Challenger spacer sleeves get ridda the vertical slop on all stock reels using the 98-60 sleeve? How about the Cortez Conversion plates?
90% by adding a shim, looks like you have it covered, no need for a spacer for you then.
No, these custom spacers do not work with Tom's plates or Accurate.
I did request the hole on those to be a little larger, but there was no interest.
You could make it work, but will need to reduce the custom spacer .
I have done this to some that requested it, but keep in mind, the chrome would be gone.
A little grease would kee it happy.
Sal
Joe, thanks anyway, Mike, thanks, great to have those measurements in case I decide to add a SS sleeve.
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 23, 2018, 10:53:23 AMYou would get away with the thinner post, but will need to replace the spacing sleeve....There is zero side way movement with the gear sleeve, no matter if the post is thinner or not...Sal
Sal, thanks for that tidbit. So if I'm understanding correctly, the slop created by the thinner post would be compensated by a tight fitting spacing sleeve, in effect leaving the gear sleeve "floating" around the post, and being supported only by the spacing sleeve? That would weaken the assembly and lead to wear inside the spacing sleeve, and would add cranking resistance as well. I would rather leave the original gear sleeve then add a SS one to a thinner post.
Quote from: nelz on March 23, 2018, 09:04:49 PM
Joe, thanks anyway, Mike, thanks, great to have those measurements in case I decide to add a SS sleeve.
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 23, 2018, 10:53:23 AMYou would get away with the thinner post, but will need to replace the spacing sleeve....There is zero side way movement with the gear sleeve, no matter if the post is thinner or not...Sal
Sal, thanks for that tidbit. So if I'm understanding correctly, the slop created by the thinner post would be compensated by a tight fitting spacing sleeve, in effect leaving the gear sleeve "floating" around the post, and being supported only by the spacing sleeve? That would weak the assembly and lead to wear inside the spacing sleeve, and would add cranking resistance as well. I would rather leave the original gear sleeve then add a SS one to a thinner post.
Even though the post is thinner, check the base where it is pressed in on the bridge plate, that's where the sleeve takes most of the pressure. I have a 3-60 of the same and when comparing it to the thicker post the base is just a tad smaller.
of course if you have lots of play, I see your point and I agree with you.
I actually have one with a brass insert, but don't remember where it came from
(https://i.imgur.com/zFSUcB5.jpg)
A new bridge would make things easier.
Sal
I was just thinking...you are going to use 20lb. line. Likely your drag won't be set tighter than 10lb. I think that stock sleeve will do just fine. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on March 23, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
I was just thinking...you are going to use 20lb. line. Likely your drag won't be set tighter than 10lb. I think that stock sleeve will do just fine. 8)
65lb power pro maxcoutro =12lb ,,,,,it alot of math,,,I know fins is better ;D
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 23, 2018, 09:43:41 PMEven though the post is thinner, check the base where it is pressed in on the bridge plate, that's where the sleeve takes most of the pressure.
Ah-ha, I kinda figured that might be the case.