Just finished a clean and service on one of these. The tutorial I found here on AT was helpful, but I also dug up some schematics over on the Mitchell Museum. I'd like to repost them here in hopes that they may ease the woes of some other intrepid seeker.
Can anyone confirm that a Mitchell 600 series handle will interchange with a Penn Squidder or Jigmaster Type A handle?
Quote from: Decker on July 31, 2017, 07:22:16 PM
Can anyone confirm that a Mitchell 600 series handle will interchange with a Penn Squidder or Jigmaster Type A handle?
It sure will Decker, here's my 622's handle mounted on a Jiggy gear sleeve. The Garcia Mitchell handle nut even works...and the Penn wrench(large handle nut hole) will even fit it! 8)
Thanks, Mo!
The rarest of these reels is one without a crank in the sideplate -- it does not seem to affect function -- just looks lousy, IMO.
Think I might have 6 or 7 of these as complete reels -- all have cracks except one -- and that is just probably because I haven't take a close enough look... ;) ;) ;)
Best,
Fred,
Quote from: foakes on July 31, 2017, 08:01:07 PM
The rarest of these reels is one without a crank in the sideplate -- it does not seem to affect function -- just looks lousy, IMO.
Think I might have 6 or 7 of these as complete reels -- all have cracks except one -- and that is just probably because I haven't take a close enough look... ;) ;) ;)
Best,
Fred,
yep, what he said. I have four, all cracked with some grease seepage that stains the plate so it always looks dirty. but a capable enough reel otherwise. the 622 with four rings brings to mind 1/0 Senator.
Quote from: mo65 on July 31, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: Decker on July 31, 2017, 07:22:16 PM
Can anyone confirm that a Mitchell 600 series handle will interchange with a Penn Squidder or Jigmaster Type A handle?
It sure will Decker, here's my 622's handle mounted on a Jiggy gear sleeve. The Garcia Mitchell handle nut even works...and the Penn wrench(large handle nut hole) will even fit it! 8)
Mo, thanks a lot for checking that out. I bought a Mitchell Riptide conventional handle that I really like for my Jigmaster! The knob is angled, and rubberized for comfort, and it seems like a good length for mechanical advantage against a big fish or heavy weight.
My problem now if that in order to lock that handle on the jiggy sleeve, I need the Mitchell nut, locking piece, and screw. Do you have any ideas on a simpler way to lock it down? /Joe
P.S. I'm not a Mitchell guy, so am clueless about how to track down parts.
Hi Joe --
Look around a bit on ebay and google -- you might find the screw nut and locker.
A complete parts reel might be the best answer -- they are fairly cheap -- and you might need other parts going forward.
I have 10s of thousands of Mitchell parts -- but none for the conventional series of these 600's.
Others may have what you need.
However, if all else fails -- let me know -- and I will rob the parts off of one of my reels -- knowing that it can be replaced later -- in the meantime -- you will have a working reel -- N/C.
Best,
Fred
Fred, thanks a lot for the encouragement and offer. It would be a sin to cannibalize one of your beautiful reels for one of my jalopies :) I've seen the parts on ebay, but few of them, and the three pieces sold separately. My current challenge is to find good parts diagrams for the Riptide series on the web. I found one that is a bad scan from paper and hardly legible. The Penn world is much easier to navigate ;D
On second thought -- (should have been first)...
No use you going through too much trouble, Joe --
Just let me know what parts you need for a 600 series -- and I will take it off of one of these.
I am sure that I can find the replacement parts in the bone-pile bins, later on, when time & opportunity allows.
And I am not in love with any of these reels -- they just need to be operational tools for folks to use.
In the meantime -- lets get your reel back in the rotation.
Please PM me your mailing address.
Best,
Fred
Joe & Fred,
I have this Mitchell 624, picked it up in a box of reels at a yard sale.....I wanted the other ones!
If it will help let me know!
Brett
Quote from: bhale1 on August 14, 2017, 05:25:46 PM
Joe & Fred,
I have this Mitchell 624, picked it up in a box of reels at a yard sale.....I wanted the other ones!
If it will help let me know!
Brett
Edit.....yay!!!!, Just figured out how to post a pic with my tablet...computer all messed up. It's the small victories sometimes😁
Quote from: bhale1 on August 14, 2017, 05:28:22 PM
Quote from: bhale1 on August 14, 2017, 05:25:46 PM
Joe & Fred,
I have this Mitchell 624, picked it up in a box of reels at a yard sale.....I wanted the other ones!
If it will help let me know!
Brett
Edit.....yay!!!!, Just figured out how to post a pic with my tablet...computer all messed up. It's the small victories sometimes😁
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Although...I don't see the pics in my gallery ???...I'm pretty computer illiterate!
Fred and Brett,
Sorry for the confusion; I'm off-topic for this thread. I only began posting here because I was considering using a Mitchell 600 series pancake handle on a Jigmaster; however, I instead bought a Mitchell Riptide handle (4/0?). This barely legible schematic is telling me I need these three parts to put my Riptide handle on the Jiggy:
http://www.mikesreelrepair.com/content/schematics/Mitchell_Riptide_22C42C6-0___GL.pdf
- 49) handle nut: part# 1066210
- 50) handle nut locker: 1066211
- 51) locker screw: 1066212
Hope I got those part numbers right :-\
Where can I get these parts? Thanks, in advance!
Off topic a bit also, but for those who are interested, a 112H2 handle fits a Jigmaster perfectly, all you need to do is fit the Penn handle nut to the 112H2 cap, which I did with a 1/16th chisel, and all is fine.
Frank, the photos worked!!!!
Mike.
I doubt that a Mitchell crank nut will fit into a Penn 500 sleeve -- but could be wrong, Joe --
Seems like all you need is a Penn crank nut, and either a lock ring and a lock screw -- or just the screw if it matches up to the scallop pattern diameter.
Might need a little modification -- but it is all very doable.
For me, just have to open up the bins of spare loose parts -- and figure it out by cobbling something together.
Have to have it on my bench, though -- so that might not be an option -- although I would do it for just the shipping cost.
Best,
Fred
For sure it works, Fred. Mo gave the green light earlier in this thread, and I have my Mitchell handle mounted on my Jigmaster. As Mo pointed out the Mitchell handle nut will fit the Jigmaster sleeve, but with the Penn nut holding the Mitchell handle, the locking screw is too far from the nut to lock it. So I either need those three Mitchell parts (nut, locker & screw), or use it unlocked. Shouldn't be a big deal if I can figure out the Mitchell parts and where to get them. I really like this Mitchell Riptide handle and got a fantastic deal on it.
Mo is correct, Joe -- I was wrong...
Here are the parts that should work -- and they fit the Penn and vice-versa.
PM me your address -- am heading down to the PO in about an hour -- will get them off.
Best,
Fred
Here's a picture of the nut locking for the Riptide 4/0. I think the Mitchell part# is 1068211 (handle nut locker). it goes completely around the nut, like on an Ambassadeur.
P.S. I'm just now noticing it is a different shaped head on the nut. The threads must be the same. I am going to see if I can find somewhere to order these.
Well, I found out how to contact Mitchell, and they were able to see me the parts (nut,locker, & screw) for $9 shipped. Case closed! ;D
Mitchell Factory Service Center
Mitchell Factory Reel Service
1900 18th St.
Spirit Lake, IA 51360
(877) 502-6482
Posted a summary of my saga of putting a Mitchell Riptide handle on a Jigmaster here: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22755 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22755)
Thanks for the help, guys!
(http://alantani.com/gallery/21/16057_07_09_17_8_41_28.jpeg)
Looks good! Hard to be unique when talking about a Jigmaster, but looks like yours is.
She looks sweet Joe! Glad you got it figured out. 8)
I recently was cleaning a 600 series reel, and when I disassembled the Handle side the pieces fell out before I could see how they all fit.
The Diagram you posted was very helpful in figuring out how to put it back together.
The only thing I cannot figure out is where the small spring (see attached picture)
(Part # 87-697) connects to.
The one side goes through the Part # 81-696 but I cannot see where the other end connects to.
Would you have a picture of where it connects
Thanks
Perry, the spring end bent like an 'L' goes up thru the hole where you have it now. Rotate it around to the area in the lower part of your pic and using needle nose pliers, compress the spring and stick it in the little slot. (in front of the square tab).
Look close you'll see where it goes.
Thanks so much for the quick reply
Moved the spring as you mentioned and it works great.
I did have one other question.
The label is missing from the reel and I was trying to figure out exactly with Model# it is, as I would like to order a replacement label
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Perry
Scroll up and check reply #19, Joe listed Mitchell's contact info. I used to have some conventional Mitchells, but only have Spidercast bass fishing series stuff left.
Thanks Again
Perry
show us a pic, it's a 600, 622, or 624.
Here are a few pictures
Still needs some significant cleaning
Thanks
Perry
John is right --
Likely to be a 624, Perry --
Here is a pic of the sticker you need.
Those stickers were cheaply made and adhered poorly from the start.
At the 5 year mark, the spider-cracks in the sideplates would appear -- at the same time the label would lift and peel off. Neither of these petty issues seemed to affect the performance of these reels, however -- just another one of the major companies trying to cash in on the success of Penn's multi-generational domination in the conventional reel market. Now the names are owned by the same umbrella corporation -- but Penn did survive and thrive.
Best,
Fred
can someone tell me if the rod clamp for these reels will fit a penn 12, 20, 0r 30 international. thanks.
Greg