A member of this site named Tim MacDonald asked for a larger custom box to hold 3-3700 size Plano trays. After some thought this box has taken shape. You can get a lot of tackle in three 3700 trays.
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Here are construction shots
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As you can see, three 3700 Plano trays fit inside nicely.
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Here it is with a little spar varnish with two smaller cousins.
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The price will be $200 in African mahogany, dog not included.
A three 3600 Plano tray box is in the works...
Mark,
That looks terrific! For those that might be wondering why so large, keep in mind that I can be on the boat up to four days so I need to carry everything with me. This includes sinkers to 14 ounces, extra spools of mono, tackle, etc. You would be surprised how much space sinkers can take up.
Mac
Beautiful work as always - very nice!!
Beautiful work Mark!
A question... I see your hinge leafs flat mounted on the back of the case and see them sometimes mortised into the edges. Any reason for each way?
Thanks,
Steve
Steve,
Good question and just what I was about to ask! I am sure there is a good reason for this approach. I can tell you that due to the weight this box may need to handle, Mark placed three biscuits on each corner to add more strength to the periphery. Look at the handle from inside the box and you'll see thick stainless washers for each screw assuring a robust and strong carrying handle. I have no doubt I am going to have conversations/questions with the guys on the Yankee Captain!
Mac
Another awesome piece.
For me, the flat mount is a stronger attachment -- especially for a moving top needing support as opened up.
A mortise cut into the top and bottom would entail careful routing, likely a router table, hand finished inside corners with chisel work required -- and since Mark uses a back up strip inside for additional strength and screw purchase, it would need to protrude farther into the inside -- thus making things a little clunkier for storage.
The surface mount is much stronger than an edge mounted hinge going into the grain.
This is a simple good-looking SS system that is easier to align when assembling, simpler to match the flush design top to lower exactly - and ends up looking better and saving around 2 or 3 hours of additional labor for basically no reason.
And for me (probably not for Mark) -- it would be easy to screw up a finished box by getting a chisel mortise a little too deep, or off just a bit in one of the corners that would show -- or when committed to cutting the inset, the top is not exactly aligned grain-wise.
I can tell this -- these are works of art that will also function perfectly with a Plano system.
And the pricing is not making anyone rich -- labor of love and skill.
There are hundreds of ways of making similar boxes and results -- but these are really well thought out.
The only change I might make (and this is only a consideration) wouild to possibly use SS machine hex hole indented screws with SS washers and SS lock nuts. probably would not look as good, though.
Great to have these available by a AT family member
Best,
Fred
Fred,
Great information, thanks! Mark just put this tackle box on a UPS truck and it's heading this way! I just saw the finished pictures and believe he will post the finished product soon. All I can say is that I am one happy forum member at this moment.
Mac
Quote from: foakes on July 27, 2015, 03:04:16 PM
For me, the flat mount is a stronger attachment -- especially for a moving top needing support as opened up.
A mortise cut into the top and bottom would entail careful routing, likely a router table, hand finished inside corners with chisel work required -- and since Mark uses a back up strip inside for additional strength and screw purchase, it would need to protrude farther into the inside -- thus making things a little clunkier for storage.
The surface mount is much stronger than an edge mounted hinge going into the grain.
This is a simple good-looking SS system that is easier to align when assembling, simpler to match the flush design top to lower exactly - and ends up looking better and saving around 2 or 3 hours of additional labor for basically no reason.
And for me (probably not for Mark) -- it would be easy to screw up a finished box by getting a chisel mortise a little too deep, or off just a bit in one of the corners that would show -- or when committed to cutting the inset, the top is not exactly aligned grain-wise.
I can tell this -- these are works of art that will also function perfectly with a Plano system.
And the pricing is not making anyone rich -- labor of love and skill.
There are hundreds of ways of making similar boxes and results -- but these are really well thought out.
The only change I might make (and this is only a consideration) wouild to possibly use SS machine hex hole indented screws with SS washers and SS lock nuts. probably would not look as good, though.
Great to have these available by a AT family member
Best,
Fred
Agree with you Fred, it's great to have these beauties available. Labors of love for sure!
My question to Mark was why he chooses to mount the hinges one way or the other. His pictures shows he does it both ways.
A mortise cut to edge grain is simple - door hangers do it every day. Make a template, attach it, zip zip done. Watching for tearout near the top and bottom is the tricky part and is easily avoided with just a little experience. No chiseling needed after the router either. (Complete chiseling a piano hinge could really only be done with a specialty plane or by a Japanese cabinet maker :)).
It's plenty strong, using longer screws. We're not talking end grain here.
Hidden hinge leafs look better (imo) and... they can't be unscrewed from the outside. Thats the #1 reason to do it. In most cases it's required.
I'd still like to hear from Marc why he decides which way to do it.
Sorry Fred if I sound nitpickey but it's the carpenter in me.
Steve
Quote from: swill88 on July 25, 2015, 09:12:28 PM
Beautiful work Mark!
A question... I see your hinge leafs flat mounted on the back of the case and see them sometimes mortised into the edges. Any reason for each way?
Thanks,
Steve
With 1/2" or 3/8" wood there is not enough space to mortise the hinges as I do with the larger boxes. It would be nice if someone made smaller piano hinges in stainless steel. So far I have not found them. Here is a view of a larger box ( thicker wood ) with mortised hinges.
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Sorry Tim, it had to be this way.
No problem Mark. I thought there was a logical reason for this anyway! Did I tell you how pleased I am lately? LOL
Mac
Thanks Marc... again, beautiful work!
Mac... you have an heirloom piece!
I took this tackle box into Outdoor World today looking for some Plano's and within a few minutes had a group of three commenting, asking questions and wanting to know who built it. I can't say I was surprised because the workmanship and finish is so outstanding and their are not many who offer a unique product like this. I feel sure Mark will end up getting some orders as his skill set gets out into the fishing groups in and around Florida!
Mac
Beautiful work!
Nice, nice, nice.
Mac, that's not too much! I carry the same for the day, lol.
A new one was ordered today, fun to make a new one with box joinery. Thanks Rosie
Looking forward to progress pictures!
Here is an almost start to finish build on the new box.
Purchase of African mahogany
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Cut to size
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Glue up of the four sided case with box joints
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I don't know about a village, but it does take a lot of clamps
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Close up of raw box joints
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Case flush trimmed
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Gluing up the back to the case
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Box glued up with front and back faces flush trimmed
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Top cut and sanded flush
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Lockable stainless steel front hasps installed
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Now the box joints look smooth and pretty
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Stainless steel piano hinge installed
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Three Plano 3700 trays snugly fit inside
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Handle before and after bandsaw and spindle sander
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After routing a roundover profile
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Handle sanded well and attached to the box with waterproof glue and stainless steel screws.
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Screws are reinforced with 1.25" stainless washers.
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Spar varnish coat 1
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You got this dialed in Mark. I really like em.
Beautiful shop! And outstanding work, my box is one of my prized possessions...I haven't fished it yet because it is sitting in my case...I need to just take it....maybe someday...
These are so outstanding...Mark, i still want one (we had discussed a ways back). I'm still deciding what i will do with it...tackle or carriage for my custom builds. What are the dimensions of this box, and could it be mortised inside for two removable dividers to carry reels or 3700's?
John
Here it is ready to ship later today.
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amazing!
Mark,
Just like your plugs..... perfection!!!! Nuf said!
Brett