My projects are stacking up faster than I can knock them out! It's a very good problem to have and I need to clear house for a couple of big projects coming up!
I'm going to start machining these next week and need a feel for who wants them, how many, and what color. Silver, Red, Green, or Black.
Here's the kicker...... Tiburon makes those cool new frames. They won't fit with the the old style plates so I'm going to make a very limited run of plates that will fit those new style frames.
So you really have two choices in four colors! I would need at least ten orders to do a custom color, and they will probably be an extra $10 a set.
My polishing estimate on the jigmaster stuff was way off. I ate half the cost because that was my fault. This time I have an accurate quote, so the price increase reflects that.
I'll be selling these for $108.00 a set with shipping in the U.S.
Here's what's in the set:
Polished, anodized plates-Silver, Red, Black, Green.
Two Bearing cups with ABEC-5 bearings and Viton O-rings.
Two bronze bushings.
Delrin insulator sleeve for the eccentric.
Clicker spring, dog, and clicker button.
Rubber for the eccentric lever.
New Stainless Steel mounting hardware.
I don't have a source for Stainless bridge screws, so you are on your own on that.
So please let me know what style of plates you want( original or Tib), what color, and how many sets.
Thank you,
Tom
I would like 4 setsto fit tiburon frames.
3 red
1 black.
Tom,
(1) Black, original style
(1) Green, new style
Thanks,
Steve
I'll take two sets, both original, one green & one silver. If enough get together for blue I'm in for a third set, original.
Tom,
Enlighten me on the New Style Tiburon Frames. I didn't know there were any that didn't fit old style plates.
I just bought this one.
Daron, it only applies to the 113H frames. If the ends of the frames have a recess then you have the new style frames. If the ends of the frame are flat straight across then it is the original style frame. Original frames use inner rings, new style frames do not use the inner rings. The plates will be cut with the step for the new style & without step for original style frames. RUDY
Hi Tom,
Two choices ?? Meaning old style or new style ??
Ted
Ted, original style frames should match with Accurate frames. They are the same on the ends as the original Tib frames. RUDY
I'll be in for one green set (original), or blue if you get enough requests. :)
~A~
I would definitely be down for Blue as well, but Tiburon makes two different Blue frames. Ice Blue and Cobalt. The one pictured above is darker Cobalt Blue.
Two tone Blue would probably look pretty Cool. ;)
Ice Blue.... like a Candy Blue would be my choice.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on December 24, 2015, 07:53:17 PM
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I like the Ice/Candy Blue color better myself. Daron, I didn't know you had a reel with that neat, little antibacklash device.
I will take a new style green and silver and an ice blue if you do them
John
Tom,
Please forgive me, I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but You said the newer style Tib frames don't work with old plates. This is a Cobalt Blue HLW, kind of rare. It is the new style as seen with the recess.
I have a few 113H's, I have been wanting to make a wide Tank for a while.
The donor reel I got from So Cal a while back. This is the oldest version of the 113H that I know of.
Just by removing the inner rings, It fits just fine. There are versions of this newer frame style with the 114H as well. Just trying to clear this up for easy understanding.
The other two tanks I have. A Narrow and a standard width, Use both rings and are the old style.
The Californian is a reel I stumbled across and I think I will leave it as is. Another rare 113 wide.
You're not hijacking at all, it's all related. I believe Tom is talking about the metal side plates, the frame that you're showing will not work on the sideplate similar to the jigmaster plates he just made.
In order to use the type of frame as you're showing, the sideplate will need to be machined to accept it.
I understand now. He is referring to his plates. ::)
I will take one set, original new tiburon style, in silver green.
I fold.
1 black Tib.
3 original black, sliver, and red.
Please add me to list I would like 2 sets of plates in black original style. Thanks
It will be a month before I am able to purchase but if you are looking for counts I am in for one set original in red. Ken
And here's a sneak peek of the new style for the Tiburon frames with the lip!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/158802204@N04/36854936022/in/dateposted-public/
hi tom , I would like one black for new style Tiburon frame .Knurled cup thanks mitch27
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on December 30, 2015, 05:14:52 AM
And here's a sneak peek of the new style for the Tiburon frames with the lip!
Cat's meow, bee's knees,
BODACIOUS!! :o :D ;D
~
A~
Those are awesome Tom.
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on December 30, 2015, 05:14:52 AM
And here's a sneak peek of the new style for the Tiburon frames with the lip!
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag109/Cortez_Conversions/Cortez%20113H/IMG_0478_zpsdzxrirpm.jpg)
so, this plates are made without the offset cut for the harness lug, right?
on the other side the other model of plates will have an offset cut to accomodate the harness lugs just like the old accuplates
they look fabulous, looking fordward the fishined product
Cutout for the lugs is in the frame.
Both styles are notched on the side plates. The new Tib frame is also notched because the plate recesses into it. I'll post a few more pics a little later.
Tom,
I will take one in black, new style.
SpeedwagonII
Tom, I'm good for one in black. I don't have my Tiburon frame yet, I just don't want to miss out on this - so I guess the new style for me? I'd like to see them side by side to be sure of the difference, but I guess it'll be easier to get the newer frame style than the older when I'm ready to buy. I understand the difference is the inside ring.
Thanks,
Sid
Of course I'm in for a set. Red for an old style tib frame.
1 in black for the newer style frame.
Thanks.
Quote from: BryanC on December 25, 2015, 05:07:04 AM
I will take one set, original, in silver.
I screwed up. Please change that to one set,
new tiburon style,
silver green.
What is the tiburon frame number do I order if I decide to request the new style side plates.
Mike
Hey Tom,
One red, one silver, and one green all for the new style frames with knurled bearing caps for me, please... Love the sneak peak... looks sweet!
Thanks
Dom
Hello again Tom, adding 8 NEW style to my previous order on this thread, 2 silver, 2 red and 2 green and 2 black NEW style.......for 8 new family members ;D ;D
That's 8 new style and 3 old style, 2 silver, 1 red(earlier post) All with knurled bearing cup
Edit: Adding 2 old style & 2 new style Ice Blue. If that's not possible I'll take whatever Ice Blue you have available
Thanks Tom. Looking forward to loading my boat with cortez gems. The tuna better run and hide :D :D
...(edit).....and yes, external drag access would be OK, as long as the tolerances are close enough to keep most the water out.
I've been thinking about something for a while, and a post on another thread really got me thinking.
What do you all think about going back to a side plate that has the drags accessable from the outside like the older Senatoers had?
I would have to add the collar as they are obsolete.
Discuss!
I cracked open two of my 113H's yesterday to find they didn't need to be opened at all... they looked perfect, but I service them annually anyway, mainly to check the drag washers.
Having access to the drags would've cut my time considerably. I think that's a great idea, Tom!
Let me know if you need a collar to measure.
Thanks
Dom
After seeing the peak, I will add a silver, new style set to my green, new style, order previously indicated. Already procurred my donor in a trade for servicing Jiggy's.
John
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on January 05, 2016, 02:17:20 PM
What do you all think about going back to a side plate that has the drags accessible from the outside like the older Senators had?
I think it's a superb idea! All my Senators --and even my old Long Beach 68-- are outside-drag-accessible. (The felt washers under the collar are hard to come by, though.) :P
~
A~
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on January 05, 2016, 02:17:20 PM
I've been thinking about something for a while, and a post on another thread really got me thinking.
What do you all think about going back to a side plate that has the drags accessable from the outside like the older Senatoers had?
I would have to add the collar as they are obsolete.
Discuss!
whatever the rest of the guys chose is ok with me, but I have to say that I open my reels annually to check everything, drags, grease, etc.
its not that hard to open the reel once you are familiar doing it to change or check the drag washers, unless you are making drag tests like Sal.
I think the top hat with accessible drags is a great idea.
Especially if you are running an insert or Hex Drags. They will be easier to check.
I want to add a Silver set to my order.
One Red, One Silver old style. One Ice Blue, New Style with knurled caps. 3 sets total.
What's Next Tom. 9/0 plates to go with the frames? :o
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 05, 2016, 05:40:59 PM
I think the top hat with accessible drags is a great idea.
Especially if you are running an insert or Hex Drags. They will be easier to check.
I want to add a Silver set to my order.
One Red, One Silver old style. One Black, New Style.
What's Next Tom. 9/0 plates to go with the frames? :o
Some day, but not in the near future.
Aiala, you're 100% correct... those felt washers are near impossible to find. I'm sure Tom will have or come up with a solution to that issue.
Daron, just the thought of 9/0 plates makes me drool. You'd be able to build a bunch of reels with the amount of frames you picked up. ;)
I hear ya, Steelfish, I also service all of my reels annually, but it's time consuming just to check out some washers. I have to replace my wire line 113H reel drags at least one time in the middle of the season... them stripers like to make the reels scream.
This would be a good thing and can't see a negative to having easy access.
Thanks
Dom
Quote from: broadway on January 05, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
This would be a good thing and can't see a negative to having easy access.
100% agree on that
Alex
Quote from: broadway on January 05, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
Aiala, you're 100% correct... those felt washers are near impossible to find. I'm sure Tom will have or come up with a solution to that issue... Dom
Dom, when the old felt washer is too thrashed to use anymore I just substitute a CF washer. Seems to work out reasonably well, but of course it'd be preferable to have the original part (or a knockoff thereof.) :-\
~
A~
Does an exterior accessible drag require any more maintenance from water intrusion?
Steve
No matter which plate it is, I just use a good amount of grease above the last eared washer that sits in the main gear ... Use salt away after every trip, I swear by it. I have never had any corrosion on any of my reels except on my wire line reels and it's only the spools from the dacron backing that stays wet and the electrolysis effect from the wire on metal spool. You should see what an aluminum spool looks like after one year if using uncoated wire on it. :o My chromed over spools last about 5-7 before I retire them due to corrosion and the gear lash from the clicker being on for the strike while trolling.
Dom
Quote from: swill88 on January 05, 2016, 09:39:30 PM
Does an exterior accessible drag require any more maintenance from water intrusion?
Steve
Yup! I also don't like the way the gear sleeve moves around under stress.
There are many that like the easy access drag system, I could do without it.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on January 05, 2016, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: swill88 on January 05, 2016, 09:39:30 PM
Does an exterior accessible drag require any more maintenance from water intrusion?
Steve
Yup! I also don't like the way the gear sleeve moves around under stress.
There are many that like the easy access drag system, I could do without it.
Sal
If the collar was matched to the hole in the side plate, it shouldnt move around much. Just like the Black Pearl spacers on the jigmaster. But water intrusion could certainly be an issue. But between Tom's tolerances and a little grease, I dont see it being a big deal.
I like the idea of the external access drags.
Quote from: Aiala on January 05, 2016, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on January 05, 2016, 02:17:20 PM
What do you all think about going back to a side plate that has the drags accessible from the outside like the older Senators had?
I think it's a superb idea! All my Senators --and even my old Long Beach 68-- are outside-drag-accessible. (The felt washers under the collar are hard to come by, though.) :P
~A~
I still have them if you need them...
Keith
Personally, I'm a fan of small openings on the side plate, especially by the handle, but Tom is not making these for me.
The easy access drag system only allows you to install drag washers, the gear is not removable.
The reel should always be opened when servicing, I'm afraid this will keep them from doing so.
if assembly is an issue, the custom double dog bridge from Pro Challenger is due in soon, those drop in easily.
As I told Tom in a message, its up to him and you guys.
Sal
I have to go along with Sal on this one although whatever you ladies and gentlemen decide, I know Tom will make them great. My thoughts are anyone on this forum who is going to look at the drags will more than likely open the whole reel up to check and see that everything's OK. Someone mentioned a place for salt intrusion, and lastly if you look at the clean lines of the side plates on the last jigmaster plates that Tom made this might take away from that.
Don't mean to upset anyone and not saying its a bad idea, it isn't ..... Its just and opinion.
....................Lou
Quote from: Alto Mare on January 05, 2016, 11:59:39 PM
Personally, I'm a fan of small openings on the side plate, especially by the handle, but Tom is not making these for me.
The easy access drag system only allows you to install drag washers, the gear is not removable.
The reel should always be opened when servicing, I'm afraid this will keep them from doing so.
if assembly is an issue, the custom double dog bridge from Pro Challenger is due in soon, those drop in easily.
As I told Tom in a message, its up to him and you guys.
Sal
Those are very good points, but heres another one to consider. These reels do not do well dissipating heat from the drag during a long, hard run, especially when we start upgrading everything to stainless. A top hat like the easy access drag has would allow for a nice "radiator" for some of that heat.
Sal, I'm pretty sure our members won't stop maintaining their reels properly, but it is nice to see where your washers are at, condition-wise in short order. As much as I like the look of the smaller opening, I do like the functionality of the easy access. I won't be pushing these things too far so I don't have to worry much about heat build up. Also, I fish both the new and old style collars and don't see a difference between them in regards to water intrusion or corrosion. As much as it can let in salt water, it also lets in salt away so I believe that ones a wash. It comes down to preference a little more than function, as long as Tom fills the opening with the top hat or other style washer as Adam said, it's a wash to me. Have at it Tom!
It's smart for him to bring up the thought so we can kick it around a bit and then Tom can make his final call.
You guys have some good points that I never thought of.
Thanks
Dom
Dom, Tom put this out to get opinions and that's what we're doing. Agreeing or disagreeing, we're both helping and so is everyone else. When we're done, Tom will gather all the information and take it from there ;).
I told Tom earlier today that I'll go along with whatever you guys decide, I just wanted to give my opinion.
Sal
That's right Sal! I'm sure Otto didn't think of everything by himself.
Like Larry King said, "I never learned anything from talking." ;)
Dom
I have an aftermarket top hat that fits the hole and has a rubber gasket built in to help seal the hole. It's around here somewhere.
I have a 113 top-hat with a rubber gasket also. Do you know who made these?
If Tom decides to make these with top-hats he could cut a groove in the top-hat for an O-ring and that would help keep saltwater out.
Wow, I thought I bought every aftermarket Penn part at one time or another, but this gasketed top hat has eluded me. It sounds interesting and hope one of you guys find it and can post a photo.
It seems like a good idea, but I'm wondering why there aren't so many out there. :-\
Thanks
Dom
PS- Viton would be a good gasket material... just sayin'
Quote from: PacRat on January 06, 2016, 06:28:39 AM
I have a 113 top-hat with a rubber gasket also. Do you know who made these?
If Tom decides to make these with top-hats he could cut a groove in the top-hat for an O-ring and that would help keep saltwater out.
I'd like to look at one of those sealed type collars.
Thanks for the input!
I'm in for 2 silver, 2 red and 2 black for old style frames. I love your Jigmaster sideplates, they are great. Keep up the good work.
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2005_zpsff8prejy.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2005_zpsff8prejy.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2004_zpses0xlnp1.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2004_zpses0xlnp1.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2002_zpsjvvkzrfk.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2002_zpsjvvkzrfk.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2001_zpse6lvahjp.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/fishing%20reel/113%20tophat%2001_zpse6lvahjp.jpg.html)
Tom,
Here's some photos. I bought the reel used so I have no idea who made this. It looks like a groove has been cut around the edge of the top hat for the rubber gasket. This one is old and the rubber isn't very flexible anymore so I haven't used it. I've read this thread and agree that there is some merit in heat dissipation through the top hat. I also concur with Sal in that the concealed drags better support the gear stem and is better at keeping water out. With your skills it should be possible to get the best of both by creating a thicker top hat out of aluminum which would conduct heat very well. This thicker top hat could be O-ringed to keep water out by cutting a groove similar to this gasketed top hat. This O-ring would seal between the top hat and sideplate. One drawback would be if an O-ring failed and then you have aluminum on aluminum friction which would likely cause galling.
This is good stuff!
I like that gasket, but I bet it's possible to build an even better mousetrap here. Shimano, Diawa, and others have some pretty ingenious double gasket seal designso that would allow for lateral support, sealing, and still allow up/down travel with the star adjustment.
Just a thought.
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20001_zpshcshpxbj.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20001_zpshcshpxbj.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20002_zpsah6prxy8.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20002_zpsah6prxy8.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20003_zpsahx86uwp.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20003_zpsahx86uwp.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20004_zpsm27v8tku.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20004_zpsm27v8tku.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20007_zpskuhw5luj.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/113%20top%20hat%20detail%20007_zpskuhw5luj.jpg.html)
Tom,
I decided to pull the rubber gasket just to see how deep the cut is. The gasket cut isn't straight in, it's angled, this keeps the gasket shaped like a shallow cone. You can see the angle of the cut in the shadow that it casts in the last photo. I would love to know more about these because someone really put a lot of thought and effort into these. I always assumed they were just knocking these out in their garage.
Mine is just like PacRat's
Now that's cool... thanks for bringing this to our attention. With the engineering minds we have here, they'll come up with something functional for us.
Thanks
Dom
The reel that this top hat came on had dry carbontex and the stack was completely rusted to the main gear. Once I replaced the drag stack with greased washers the stack height was actually less than the original and the rubber gasket was dragging on the sideplate too much so I didn't use it but it seemed like a good idea.
Tom, please disregard my first request.
I would like 1 red and 1 green for the old style TIB frame.
I would also like 1 Ice blue for a new style TIB frame. All with Knurled bearing cups. I would also like to purchase 2 additional Standard bearing caps.
Thanks for you efforts and making these available to us. The jigmaster plates are awesome!!!
All the best, .. Lou
Tom said that it would be OK for me to briefly hijack this thread to let everyone know that I have some frames and spools in stock to use with his 4/0 side plates and you can see them if you go to my Vintage Offshore Tackle forum on this website. You will also find a post about how to order new Tiburon frames that I will pick up when I go to the Tiburon factory next week.
Thank you Tom!
Randy
I would really like to see the Tiburon Manufacturing Facility.
Take some pictures if you are allowed Randy. That would be Awesome!
Need orders for purple I would take 2 sets
Aloha Tom,
Please put me down for 2 sets of Green Tiburon-style plates, if possible with the knob bearing cups on both. Also interested in purple ones too if anyone else can help make it worth doing a run of them.
It sure seems like there's a little bit of demand for a run of purple. Crossing fingers that it can happen! Accurate or Tib style is fine by me, as long as i can get 2 sets.
I'll take 2 sets in green, new Tiburon style.
Tom... How does it look?
Am I the only impatient guy who is losing control in anticipation?
Steve
Based on what I'm building right now with the Jig plates....no, no you are not the only one....
You are not alone! :o :o :o
Quote from: swill88 on January 14, 2016, 12:30:01 AM
Tom... How does it look?
Am I the only impatient guy who is losing control in anticipation?
Steve
The left side plates are off the machines already and I started the right side plates today. Probably 4 weeks out on the release.
Did you know that the Lee Pro style side plates fit the new Tiburon frames??
And to add to your decision making conundrum, you can use the plates I'm making for the new Tiburon frames on the old style frames if you run the inner rings. Bling, Bling!
Man on a Mission. ;)
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on January 14, 2016, 05:10:04 AM
The left side plates are off the machines already and I started the right side plates today. Probably 4 weeks out on the release.
Did you know that the Lee Pro style side plates fit the new Tiburon frames??
And to add to your decision making conundrum, you can use the plates I'm making for the new Tiburon frames on the old style frames if you run the inner rings. Bling, Bling!
Options are a great thing.
That's great news Tom. No doubt these will exceed expectations, just like all your creations. 8) 8)
P.S. If you do a custom color my vote is "ice blue" ;)
1 Red new
1 Silver new
1 Black new
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on January 14, 2016, 05:10:04 AM
The left side plates are off the machines already and I started the right side plates today. Probably 4 weeks out on the release.
Did you know that the Lee Pro style side plates fit the new Tiburon frames??
And to add to your decision making conundrum, you can use the plates I'm making for the new Tiburon frames on the old style frames if you run the inner rings. Bling, Bling!
Cant wait
Quote from: Max Doubt on January 14, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
That's great news Tom. No doubt these will exceed expectations, just like all your creations. 8) 8)
P.S. If you do a custom color my vote is "ice blue" ;)
I'll be having a set of those also...
I would be interested in a red set and possibly a green set
Yes, after reading through the other responses I would be interested in a ice blue or electric blue set
It must be close, I think I can smell them???????
Question for Tom?
Will these plates accept a second dog? I understand Mr. Chui is trying to make this not matter (God bless him!), but all my 4/0s are double dogged with a milled plate. I'd hate to have to cut on one of your masterpieces.
Ron
You could mill the plate which would be no fun or wait until the new double dog bridge is available and simply install it on any compatible sideplates. I'm waiting for the new bridge.
FINALLY, orders now being taken by Alan C. Bridges to be here in April. RUDY
Quote from: noyb72 on February 06, 2016, 08:02:57 PM
Question for Tom?
Will these plates accept a second dog? I understand Mr. Chui is trying to make this not matter (God bless him!), but all my 4/0s are double dogged with a milled plate. I'd hate to have to cut on one of your masterpieces.
Ron
The plates are not milled to take a second dog, but they do have the mirror image notch for left hand conversion. I am working on a fixture that will allow me to drill your existing bridge plate to accept a second dog using that lefty notch. This will allow you to double dog a bridge without cutting the plate or buying an entire new bridge.
Yaba daba that sounds cool.
Hi Tom, the anticipation is building :D....any updates on your masterpieces ?
Ted
today is officially the middle of February... 8)
The machining is all complete, just gotta get them over to the plater! I'll be releasing them in a couple/three weeks.
Please make sure that your order wishes are on this thread, even if you have PM'd me. The colors are still up in the air.
Thanks!
Tom
one set each Silver and green, new frame style. ice blue also if you do that.
John
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on February 16, 2016, 02:26:29 PM
The machining is all complete, just gotta get them over to the plater! I'll be releasing them in a couple/three weeks.
Please make sure that your order wishes are on this thread, even if you have PM'd me. The colors are still up in the air.
Thanks!
Tom
New style in red
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on February 16, 2016, 02:26:29 PM
The machining is all complete, just gotta get them over to the plater! I'll be releasing them in a couple/three weeks.
Please make sure that your order wishes are on this thread, even if you have PM'd me. The colors are still up in the air.
Thanks!
Tom
I PM'd you, but will repeat here: I would like one set in Green. This is a change from my original request for one set in Silver. New Tiburon style.
I would like to order 1 set of the new style in silver or black .....thanks again Tom for making these available for us
I would like a couple RED and Silver. (Old Style)
Mark Hartley
Quote from: anglingarchitect on February 16, 2016, 09:41:00 PM
I would like a couple RED and Silver.
Mark Hartley
Mark, you need to read the first 2 pages of this thread. There are 2 different types of sideplates. One for new style tib frames ....and one for older style tib and all accurate frames. You need to declare which ones or Tom may pick for you. ;)
Thanks for the update Tom. No hurry, but the longer I wait the more noticeable my involuntary twitch becomes. ;D ;D
1 red, 1 black, old style
One set in silver, new style frame...thanks Tom
Greg
Quote from: Three se7ens on December 31, 2015, 12:29:14 AM
Of course I'm in for a set. Red for an old style tib frame.
Let me add a second set if its not too late. Old style tib frame, green plates.
Two sets in black, new style
Speedwagon2
Tom, please put me down for 1 set in silver old style
Thanks Peter
Tom
confirming... 1 set in silver old style
thanks compadre
Hi Tom,
If you're still taking orders, please put me down for a set of black--new style.
Thanks, Chad
I am still in for 2 silver, 2 red and 2 black for old style frames. I love your Jigmaster sideplates, they are great. Keep up the good work.
Put me down for a green side plates for the new style frame.
Mike
Tom:
Any news on the side plates?
Andy
You can't rush perfection Andy.
I waited a year for Tom's big boy ss sleeves, and it was well worth it. ;)
I'm waiting on one more quote before I send them to the plater.
Ice Blue is going to happen.
The colors are Silver, Black, Green, Red, and Ice Blue.
Tom
PM sent. Rudy
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on March 07, 2016, 10:49:51 PM
I'm waiting on one more quote before I send them to the plater.
Ice Blue is going to happen.
The colors are Silver, Black, Green, Red, and Ice Blue.
Tom
That sounds awesome Tom. I would love a chance at 2 of the ice blue for old and new style frame. My previous order is way back in this thread and if need be I can swap out a couple for the ice blue, or if you have some extra you can add them to my previous request. either way I gotta have the ice blue !! Thanks for offering it as an option.
Ted
Hi Tom,
I'd like a set of plates in red, old style please.
thanks, Steve
My original post is also way in the back of this page so I'd like to update my order. 2 sets of Green (My original request) and 1 set of Ice Blue with knurled bearing cup (If another set is available), all of them in the New Tiburon style.
Aloha,
Kyle
Can I update my order to one each ice blue, red, and green of new style
Thursday 3/10 will be the last day to reserve and/or make changes, after that, you will only be able to pick the left overs.
Thanks to all of you who have supported this project!
Tom
Im back on page one in for 3 red and 1 black.
Please update my order for 2 red 1 blue and 1 black
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on March 08, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
Thursday 3/10 will be the last day to reserve and/or make changes, after that, you will only be able to pick the left overs.
Thanks to all of you who have supported this project!
Tom
Thanks for the heads up again Tom
Ted
Thanks for the update Tom!
I'd like to add to my existing order.
Wouldn't want to miss out on these side plates.
Your Jig plates are awesome!
Old order 1 black Tib.
1 red , 1 black , 1 silver of the old style.
New order 1 black , 1 red and 1 ice blue Tib.
1 black , 1 red and 1 silver old style.
Thanks,
Anthony
I'll keep it simple for ya...
3 Please... 1 Green, 1 Red, 1 Silver all with the adjustable knurled bearing caps all for the new style frames.
Thanks Tom, I can't wait
Dom
green and ice blue, new style frame, knurled caps. Thanks!
Alan, I had previoused signed up for silver old style, can I change to 1.ice blue old style and 1. silver new style?
Thanks Peter
Okay, I think I need to get in on this...I don't want to be the only kid on the block that doesn't have one. I would like one (1) black, new style for Tiburon. Knurled bearing cup please.
Thanks
Mike
I would like to upgrade my order from green to Ice Blue new style frame.
Mike
I'm not crazy bout Ice Blue, but if you happen to offer Cobalt Blue, please add it to my order.
Thanks!
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 13, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
I'm not crazy bout Ice Blue, but if you happen to offer Cobalt Blue, please add it to my order.
Thanks!
Sal
Maybe next time Sal. My lot sizes are growing thanks to the AT ohana, so with that growth comes the ability to add colors. Who knows what we can do in the future!
Speaking of anodizing colors.... The plates are going to plate Monday. I've updated everyone's color choices.
Tom
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on March 13, 2016, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 13, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
I'm not crazy bout Ice Blue, but if you happen to offer Cobalt Blue, please add it to my order.
Thanks!
Sal
Maybe next time Sal. My lot sizes are growing thanks to the AT ohana, so with that growth comes the ability to add colors. Who knows what we can do in the future!
Speaking of anodizing colors.... The plates are going to plate Monday. I've updated everyone's color choices.
Tom
Not a problem Tom, I understand.
Thank you for doing this.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 13, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
I'm not crazy bout Ice Blue, but if you happen to offer Cobalt Blue, please add it to my order.
Thanks!
Sal
You may have a good point Sal. Not sure how close royal blue is to cobalt blue, but a NOS set of accurate 113H "royal blue" plates just auctioned for over $300.(4 bidders from $150 and up). I think it must be a rare color for the old accurate components.
For Toms creations I will settle for any color he picks :D :D
Ted
I just saw the plates, they are off the hook. You guys will love them.
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 15, 2016, 05:20:21 PM
I just saw the plates, they are off the hook. You guys will love them.
Met Tom at the Fred Hall Show --
Incredibly capable and modest --
In talking with him for awhile -- a few things became readily apparent...
He loves his craft.
He is a perfectionist's perfectionist.
In engineering, manufacturing, and production -- there are various "acceptable" levels...
95% no defects, 99% no defects, 100% no defects -- or Tom's...
"this last product I am making has "0" defects, but there are a couple of small things I am not satisfied with -- so will change those until level remains at 100%. -- and I am satisfied with the resulting product".
Tom is one of us -- a fisherman, skilled craftsman, and a great guy.
If he came out with his own line of reels, like Carl Newell -- the sky would be the limit.
Just my opinions.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: foakes on March 15, 2016, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 15, 2016, 05:20:21 PM
I just saw the plates, they are off the hook. You guys will love them.
Met Tom at the Fred Hall Show --
Incredibly capable and modest --
In talking with him for awhile -- a few things became readily apparent...
He loves his craft.
He is a perfectionist's perfectionist.
In engineering, manufacturing, and production -- there are various "acceptable" levels...
95% no defects, 99% no defects, 100% no defects -- or Tom's...
"this last product I am making has "0" defects, but there are a couple of small things I am not satisfied with -- so will change those until level remains at 100%. -- and I am satisfied with the resulting product".
Tom is one of us -- a fisherman, skilled craftsman, and a great guy.
If he came out with his own line of reels, like Carl Newell -- the sky would be the limit.
Just my opinions.
Best,
Fred
And if I won the lottery, I would definitely fund his own line of reels.
Quote from: anglingarchitect on February 16, 2016, 09:41:00 PM
I would like a couple RED and Silver. (Old Style)
Mark Hartley
I want to change the silver one to new style, the red is ok old style as per previous post.
I feel like a little kid that could not sleep on Christmas eve. Every little sound must be Santa delivering the goods. Perhaps I should have ordered green and red... ::)
Everything is at the plater/polisher. So soon, very soon.
I sent the originals in first, followed a week later by the new Tib style. I didn't want to confuse the plater and get the style and color quantities mixed up.
I will release them in the same way.
Tom
I'm sitting on my couch and can't get these sideplates off my mind?
They must be just about ready to start shipping!
Why else would I be thinking about them?
I know the feeling, David... I sent my check in last week. ;)
Can't wait
Dom
Everybody is excited, not just me ;D ;) ::) ;D
Drum roll please......
I just got home from the platers and everything is polished and being racked for anodize this week.
I feel comfortable saying that they will be in my hands Friday!
I'm going to start pinging you all in the next few days for payment. I don't have any pics as yet, but I will post them asap.
Thanks for your patience with my crazy schedule!
Tom
I guess we are all on the edge of our seats ready to fall off.
Quote from: RowdyW on April 12, 2016, 01:02:25 AM
I guess we are all on the edge of our seats ready to fall off.
For both the side plates and the drag inserts from Adam...
Sid
If after all is said and done, if there any leftovers I would take a red or black set for new tib frame.
That's good news Tom. The suspense is all worth it I'm sure.
Ted
It's been a killer for me too!
Machining has been done for a month and I don't have a net 30!
I do believe it's gonna be worth the wait.
When I popped into the plate shop they had all the Tib style racked and hanging for the anodize bath. It was like Christmas all over again seeing all those polished plates.
Quote from: RowdyW on April 12, 2016, 01:02:25 AM
I guess we are all on the edge of our seats ready to fall off.
Good one Rudy. I've been on the "edge" since this build started and been looking forward to falling off ;D ;D
Ted
I got caught off guard when the jigmaster plates were released. I didn't have the parts ready for assembly. This time I have all the parts ready for 3 sets of 113H plates all separated in 3 containers. It will be like an assembly line.
Quote from: RowdyW on April 12, 2016, 04:04:56 AM
I got caught off guard when the jigmaster plates were released. I didn't have the parts ready for assembly. This time I have all the parts ready for 3 sets of 113H plates all separated in 3 containers. It will be like an assembly line.
I hear you, Rudy. My gears, sleeve, drag insert and SS dog are on the way (thanks, Lee!). And I haven't received an invoice from Adam yet, although from what he posted I should have. I was on the list in time.
Sid
Tom, I'll add a silver new style to my order of green and blue if you have one available. let me know and I'll send $ accordingly.
Thanks!
John
now to go sit on the porch and wait for delivery ;D
I got a bunch of orders processed last night, and had a few come back with errors.
Sorry folks! It looks like with all the changes going on I mixed up a few. Please have patience, we'll get it sorted.
If your order is wrong, just reply and we'll get it fixed.
Tom
Quote from: David Hall on April 12, 2016, 08:27:57 PM
now to go sit on the porch and wait for delivery ;D
You can always head it off at the P.O. ;D ;D
Quote from: sdlehr on April 12, 2016, 04:11:55 AM
And I haven't received an invoice from Adam yet, although from what he posted I should have. I was on the list in time.
Sid
Apologies to Adam! I received my insert and washer set over a week ago and forgot they had arrived.
Sid
The only thing left is Alans stainless steel double dog bridge. Production problems will slow my project down.
Mike
If it were all ready at once I would have to take out a 2nd mortgage. Although I wish I had all the parts ready to install, I think my wife would hang me... something tells me that the wait will be a good thing!
Quote from: mikeysm on April 13, 2016, 03:38:23 PM
The only thing left is Alans stainless steel double dog bridge. Production problems will so my project down.
Mike
This is going to be fun building all these reels.
Quote from: David Hall on April 13, 2016, 08:30:14 PM
This is going to be fun building all these reels.
Yes it is Dave... definitely one of my best hobby ;) ;D.
Sal
All of the above.
Thanks Tom
If you have one left please let me know..!
Keith
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 13, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
I got a bunch of orders processed last night, and had a few come back with errors.
Sorry folks! It looks like with all the changes going on I mixed up a few. Please have patience, we'll get it sorted.
If your order is wrong, just reply and we'll get it fixed.
Tom
Aloha Tom,
My order was for 1 set of ice blue, 2 sets of green. All in the new Tiburon frame topless style. You maybe have accidentally put me down for regular/old style for the 2 green sets.
Thanks,
Kyle
Picking them up today, but then I'm taking a little over night road trip to drop my Auntie off at home in Twaine Hart. I will try and get shipping started Sunday.
I guess there is still a bit of confusion regarding the old vs. new style.
The old vs. new style goes like this:
The new Tiburon frames have a lip on the frame so you can run stock Penn side plates without using the chrome inner rings. You need the new style plates for this frame.
My old style plates will fit any flat sided frame from Accurate or Tiburon. This is what you need for an old Accurate frame.
Sorry but a bit confused. Old style needs rings? I have 2 older Tib frames and planning on buying 1 new. Sorry its not sinking in. Its OAS (old age syndrome!)
..............Lou
Lou,
If you look at the first page of this thread, I posted some pics. I was confused too.
This is a newer style frame. See the lip on the end?
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4235/35510456810_fe27b97e55_b.jpg)
That lip eliminates the need for an inner ring.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4235/35058709484_3459f8609b_b.jpg)
The old style frame is flat on the end and uses both the inner and outer rings.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4316/35728920812_46c7a5a3d7_b.jpg)
Thanks Mr. D. New style frame no rings, old style frame rings. How's the sharkman been doing?
...............Lou
I can't complain Lou. Wouldn't do me any good if I did. ;D
Hey, drop me a pm with your address. I have some acrylic samples I want you to try.
Everyone hold on. I will post some pics today or tomorrow.
I should probably look to see what I have?
I done know how old is old style and when did new style tiburon frames start.
Everything I have was bought in the last two years, I'm going to wing it, be glad I got in on these side plates and make them work or buy new? Old? Frames to match them up to!
Just a quick update:
I'm swamped at work right now, and trying to juggle everything at once.
I have only invoiced a third of you all and hopefully will get that all done this week.
Shipping will start this week as well.
Thanks for your patience,
Tom
Here comes Santa Clause here comes Santa clause right down Santa clause lane.... ;D
The count down has began. Now is to collect the final few pieces to complete my reel. Might as well build a rod to complete the project. Any ideas on the blank I should use.
Mike
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag109/Cortez_Conversions/thumbnail_IMG_0570_zps1xirmhtc.jpg)
First look!
Ok so if you still don't know what style plates you need, here is the low down:
If you have a Tiburon frame that looks like this, you want new style plates.
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag109/Cortez_Conversions/thumbnail_IMG_0571_zpsvyvafemk.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag109/Cortez_Conversions/thumbnail_IMG_0571_zpsvyvafemk.jpg)
If you have an Accurate frame or an older Tiburon that looks like this, you want the older style plates.
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag109/Cortez_Conversions/thumbnail_IMG_0573_zps8pmoag5y.jpg)
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/photoHumboldt/shock1_zpsa8mboy68.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/photoHumboldt/media/shock1_zpsa8mboy68.jpg.html)
OH Boy! OH Boy! OH Boy, Thanks Tom for showing me mine, now how about everybody else's?? :D :D :D :D
Got it. Pm sent
Holy Moly, now those look great! Can't wait till they arrive. Im not a fan of blue for reels, but I'm a fan of that blue.
Nice Job, Tom!
Thanks for doing this for us,
Dom
Love those blue ones.
:o
Beautiful!!
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/smiling-cat_zpshecmznck.jpg)
PayPal-ing you right now for my ice-blue "new style" set! :D
~A~
Tom, Since I like arriving stylishly late to the party, I would love a set of the new blue if available. And a set of silver either type.
If I'm too late, well congrats on another beautiful product run!
Do you still have any red plates for the new tiburon frames? I would like 2 if it's still available.
Thanks,
Max
Just received my blue new style plates very nice. Will go good with the silver Hawaiian wide frame kit I ordered.
Mike
Quote from: mikeysm on April 22, 2016, 11:28:43 PM
Just received my blue new style plates very nice. Will go good with the silver Hawaiian wide frame kit I ordered.
Mike
I'm curious what is a Hawaiian wide frame kit? Is that the tiburon WEX?
Quote from: David Hall on April 23, 2016, 12:54:45 AM
Quote from: mikeysm on April 22, 2016, 11:28:43 PM
Just received my blue new style plates very nice. Will go good with the silver Hawaiian wide frame kit I ordered.
Mike
I'm curious what is a Hawaiian wide frame kit? Is that the tiburon WEX?
It is the same, except for the etching on the crossmember.. "Hawaiian Wide".
That is exclusive to brotha Bill.
John
Got it John seems I remember something about them awhile back.
Should make for a beauty, I ordered the WEX kit in custom electric blue from tiburon yesterday.
Can't wait to match them all up!.
Sorry to say this but I called and tried to do the same thing a few days ago. They told me they are not making anymore wex frames and the only colors are purple and green. Randy and I went through this when I tried to get black also.
Hey I'm happier not knowing?
Haven't heard anything back from them?
Guess I need another plan!
And the plan is........maybe I will ask them for a custom color NARROW frame and spool!
Guess I gotta go back to their website!
Or maybe Tom was able to accommodate my 11th hour request to swap one of my new sideplate sets for a green set and I can order the green WEX!
Hey there's a lot of ways this can go and none of them is bad!
Talk to Randy he has all the information.
These arrived in today's mail:
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSCN9935_zps6tvhfdrs.jpg)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSCN9936_zpshymvlyaf.jpg)
Woot!
Did you notice the Allen head bridge screws. I guess Tom had them made since he had problems with the first batch.
:) :) :) ;D ;D 8) 8)
Tom:
Wow! These are just awesome! Thanks for all the hard work.
Andy
They look sweet!
Tom, send 'em this way... I'm Jonesin ;)
Can't wait to see the builds,
Dom
I got mine today! Wow they are beautiful.
Tom, those look very nice.
I see you got a little creative removing material where possible:(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSCN9936_zpshymvlyaf.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSCN9936_zpshymvlyaf.jpg.html)
I bet those plates are of the same weight as the Jigmaster's plates
Good job!
I noted the same thing Sal. Does anyone know what these plates weigh? & what the comparable weights of other existing aluminum 4/0 plates (Accurate, JVaruance, etc.) might be?
Also, I was wondering why the bearing housing were designed integral with the plate. Wouldn'the it be better to have adjustable bearing spacing in these reels?
Looks like the machining and anodizing on these is top notch. I am sure the tolerances and strength are there. I kinda wish I needed a set.
Hello everyone,
I'm out of town celebrating my wife's birthday. I have a stack of PMs and emails I will get to as soon as possible!
The plates are milled with the same space for a dog on each side of the gear hole. Can you double dog it? If so, is it just using the same dog on the other side, or is it a new dog?
Thanks!
Andy
Quote from: steelhead_killer on April 24, 2016, 01:39:47 AM
The plates are milled with the same space for a dog on each side of the gear hole. Can you double dog it? If so, is it just using the same dog on the other side, or is it a new dog?
Thanks!
Andy
Andy, I don't have the plates in hand so maybe Tom or someone else could give you a better answer.
To me those appear to have the option for a left hand reel or right hand and not related to the double dog.
No I do not think you could install a second dog, unless you do some grinding on the plate.
No need to do anything using Pro Challenger's double dog bridge. Those should drop right in.
Sal
Quote from: David Hall on April 23, 2016, 02:53:23 AM
Hey I'm happier not knowing?
Haven't heard anything back from them?
Guess I need another plan!
And the plan is........maybe I will ask them for a custom color NARROW frame and spool!
Guess I gotta go back to their website!
Or maybe Tom was able to accommodate my 11th hour request to swap one of my new sideplate sets for a green set and I can order the green WEX!
Hey there's a lot of ways this can go and none of them is bad!
Hey Dave, note: I was gonna build a full green Jiggy on Tom's plates; the Tib frame and TBar handle are somewhat darker green so not an exact match, just FYI. I'll post you a pic tomorrow.
John
Or maybe our good friend Bryan hooked me up with the link to Brudah Bills shop and I ordered one of his Hawaiian Wide kits!
And then Randy who doesn't know it yet but he's going to help me find an E-Blue frame and spool.
I have no idea when I will ever get the time to build these but I am getting some incredible parts collected.
I just need to figure out where to get my hands on a red 4/0 WEX spool?
http://www.hifishgear.com/
Quote from: noyb72 on February 06, 2016, 08:02:57 PM
Question for Tom?
Will these plates accept a second dog? I understand Mr. Chui is trying to make this not matter (God bless him!), but all my 4/0s are double dogged with a milled plate. I'd hate to have to cut on one of your masterpieces.
Ron
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on February 09, 2016, 03:40:10 AM
The plates are not milled to take a second dog, but they do have the mirror image notch for left hand conversion. I am working on a fixture that will allow me to drill your existing bridge plate to accept a second dog using that lefty notch. This will allow you to double dog a bridge without cutting the plate or buying an entire new bridge.
Is it too late to get a silver set, old style?
I am still waiting for the double dog bridge. Here is the blue side plates with the silver Hawaiian frame and spool.
Mike
Ok I am stuck. Installed a SS yoke on my build and when the bridge screws are tighten down and the eccentric lever is moved back and forth the pinion gets stuck in the free spool position. It will not release until I back out this screw noted in the picture a 1/8th of a turn counter clockwise, than pop the pinion comes out properly. I have tried three yokes. And three eccentric jacks. All do the same thing. I have used both sides of the yoke. What am I missing?
(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/photoHumboldt/IMG_0329_zpsaoxxpbuy.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/photoHumboldt/media/IMG_0329_zpsaoxxpbuy.jpg.html)
Love it! Great color combo. Those blue plates are awesome!
Quote from: mikeysm on April 26, 2016, 02:13:13 AM
I am still waiting for the double dog bridge. Here is the blue side plates with the silver Hawaiian frame and spool.
Mike
Are the upper & lower bridge screws in the correct location. (reversed)?
Quote from: mikeysm on April 26, 2016, 02:13:13 AM
I am still waiting for the double dog bridge. Here is the blue side plates with the silver Hawaiian frame and spool.
Mike
Got to say that silver frame and spool looks absolutely Mahvelous! On those blue plates.
Quote from: RowdyW on April 26, 2016, 02:37:05 AM
Are the upper & lower bridge screws in the correct location. (reversed)?
Checked that too.
I got my black plates a few days ago, but was slow to order from Adam and Randy, so I don't yet have my spool, frame insert, handle (I do have the EVA knob) or drag star. The plates are waiting patiently for me to accumulate the rest for the build...
I'm wondering why I didn't order the electric blue now. :-\
Mine is going to be all black and silver/stainless. Kind of like a Senator :D
Sid
Just got mine, Tom. 8) They look spectacular, and I can't wait to assemble them but with my work schedule it's gonna be a minute.
Thanks again for some truly custom work,
Dom
Andy,
Your problem has to be in the yoke, eccentric or jack. I have had them not want to come out of freespool, but not get stuck in freespool.
A stainless yoke on a brass jack has a tendency to hang up and dig in. Make sure the tabs are smooth and the jack and yoke is facing the right direction. Ask me how I know.
Polished the jack good and it slides perfect with no nicks or scraps, polished the the yoke where the jack rests and rides. Could it be a thickness issue of the yoke?
Something is too tight. I have got in a hurry before and messed up the simplest of procedures.
Sometimes it is better to walk away and come back with a clear perspective. That usually works for me.
I'm not going to tell you to sand the yoke. I would Mic it to a standard one.
It sure seems like the clutch springs are hanging up on the screws. Maybe the springs are weak or to short. Are they new springs & the correct ones?
Andy, trying 3 different jacks and yokes, you pretty much ruled those out.
From your pics, it appears you're trying it without fully assembling the reel.
I have mentioned this earlier, these reels have a tight tolerance, to test the clutch assembly, the reel should be fully assembled.
When the reel is fully assembled, the spool shaft keeps the pinion square and keeps it from tilting.
Sal
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the reminder.
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 26, 2016, 04:30:10 AM
I have mentioned this earlier, these reels have a tight tolerance, to test the clutch assembly, the reel should be fully assembled.
When the reel is fully assembled, the spool shaft keeps the pinion square and keeps it from tilting.
Sal
Sal, I know what you mean, because I've had the shifting problem with the Jigmaser when the pinion gets away from square.
Andy, what are you seeing with the pinion when your problem shows up? Is it jamming against the bridge like in the Jigmaster? Of course, if the problem disappears after the reel is completely assembled Sal has probably nailed it.
Sid
I didn't realize he was just working with a plate and not the complete reel.
I got my red plates today. Going with a black frame. Now to find time to get it together. They look great.
Hello All,
Please keep me posted on any issues with these builds. Sometimes when I change the simplest thing it shows up later.
I especially want to know about problems like Andy is having.
I'm back at work today and will ship out most of the remaining orders tonight.
Tom
Hi Tom , The plates are perfect . The upper bridge screw is to fat. I sanded mine from 0.136 to 0.125 and it works fine . stock penn screw mics at 0.119. I am very happy with the plates. Hope this help Andy and others. mitch27
I am also having the same problem as steelhead_killer. I am also using a ss yoke. Anyone have any suggestions for this problem.
Ok found the problem i replaced upper bridge screws with the stock penn screws. It now is able to be tightened with out binding. I assume this may be the solution mitch27 was referring to. I will try and sand the screws which came with plates and see what happens. Other than the screws plates are awesome. Great work Tom.
Quote from: mitch27 on April 26, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Hi Tom , The plates are perfect . The upper bridge screw is to fat. I sanded mine from 0.136 to 0.125 and it works fine . stock penn screw mics at 0.119. I am very happy with the plates. Hope this help Andy and others. mitch27
Can someone having this problem try either the stock yoke or the stock bridge screws?
What is the hole size on the SST yoke?
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 26, 2016, 01:07:49 PM
Hello All,
Please keep me posted on any issues with these builds. Sometimes when I change the simplest thing it shows up later.
I especially want to know about problems like Andy is having.
I'm back at work today and will ship out most of the remaining orders tonight.
Tom
I had no problems with the right side plate (handle side), it was the clicker & tongue that i had trouble with ???
What kind of problems?
My clicker seems not to want to keep the tongue centered, but I haven't assembled anything else so I don't know if this will be a problem; I'm guessing once I put a spool against it it will be OK; the slot for the tongue seems to be off to one side just a hair...
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on April 26, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
My clicker seems not to want to keep the tongue centered, but I haven't assembled anything else so I don't know if this will be a problem; I'm guessing once I put a spool against it it will be OK; the slot for the tongue seems to be off to one side just a hair...
Sid
Loosen the two mounting screws and turn the spring until the dog is centered. Re-tighten screws.
If there isn't enough space to align, use a pair of pliers to tweak the spring arms to center.
A word of caution about the clicker springs:
Pretty sure Penn springs are made from Beryllium Copper. Don't ingest any dust/particulate from filing or sanding.
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 26, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
What kind of problems?
it wasn't nothing with the plates as much as my brain not functioning at a capacity to figure it out...
as you will notice on a stock Penn side plate, the tongue (key 35) and click spring (key 62) sits on a block
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1547/26567325192_bd2fe548ee_z_d.jpg)
on the Cortez plates, it takes a little finesse to balance it where it all lines up without the block to rest on..
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1564/26567325162_869db50255_z_d.jpg)
but eventually i did figure it out after 15 minutes of fiddling around...
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1521/26567325742_697c0bbbdc_z_d.jpg)
Quote from: steelhead_killer on April 26, 2016, 02:26:30 AM
Ok I am stuck. Installed a SS yoke on my build and when the bridge screws are tighten down and the eccentric lever is moved back and forth the pinion gets stuck in the free spool position. It will not release until I back out this screw noted in the picture a 1/8th of a turn counter clockwise, than pop the pinion comes out properly. I have tried three yokes. And three eccentric jacks. All do the same thing. I have used both sides of the yoke. What am I missing?
Quote from: mitch27 on April 26, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Hi Tom , The plates are perfect . The upper bridge screw is to fat. I sanded mine from 0.136 to 0.125 and it works fine . stock penn screw mics at 0.119. I am very happy with the plates. Hope this help Andy and others. mitch27
Quote from: shoyupoke on April 26, 2016, 02:21:28 PM
Ok found the problem i replaced upper bridge screws with the stock penn screws. It now is able to be tightened with out binding. I assume this may be the solution mitch27 was referring to. I will try and sand the screws which came with plates and see what happens. Other than the screws plates are awesome. Great work Tom.
i took my reel apart again, and installed a stock Penn yoke with the Cortez bridge bolts and found that the yoke was getting hung up on the bolt, not allowing the eccentric to move. you can sand down the bolts as mitch27 describes, but i think it was easier just taking a rat-tailed file to enlarge to yoke holes just a little.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1605/26596994101_4ba267a565_z_d.jpg)
after filing the yoke, everything else worked fine.
I had problems with my clicker spring also it was not bent correctly. I had to put it in my machinest vise and bend it to make it work. Then center it and problem solved
Thanks for the input everyone.
Obviously, the problem is the diameter of the bridge screws. Don't modify your yokes, modify the screws!
If you can't make the screws work, just use stock screws. I will come up with a fix.
It's not right to ask you all to modify your reels because I did not make a part correctly.
So again, if you can't modify the screws, use stock ones until I have a fix. Don't modify stock parts.
I will send the screws as is for now, because they do seem to work for some. I will replace them on my dime when I have a solution.
Thanks for your patience!
Tom
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 26, 2016, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on April 26, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
My clicker seems not to want to keep the tongue centered, but I haven't assembled anything else so I don't know if this will be a problem; I'm guessing once I put a spool against it it will be OK; the slot for the tongue seems to be off to one side just a hair...
Sid
Loosen the two mounting screws and turn the spring until the dog is centered. Re-tighten screws.
If there isn't enough space to align, use a pair of pliers to tweak the spring arms to center.
A word of caution about the clicker springs:
Pretty sure Penn springs are made from Beryllium Copper. Don't ingest any dust/particulate from filing or sanding.
Once I loosened the mounting screws it was a piece of cake. Thanks.
Sid
Tom, as has been said previously, and IMHO your stuff is just more precise than stock. I for one am more than happy to tune and provide feedback...there's a reason race cars are hand built and not mass produced. This is the crowd to get everything dialed in, otherwise we'd all just buy a 209 from Walmart and call it done :) Looking forward to my three sets, you guys will have all this sorted by the time all bits get here!
John
Quote from: thorhammer on April 27, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
I for one am more than happy to tune and provide feedback..
x2. This is part of the fun.
Sid
Quote from: Tightlines666 on April 24, 2016, 01:05:31 AM
I noted the same thing Sal. Does anyone know what these plates weigh? & what the comparable weights of other existing aluminum 4/0 plates (Accurate, JVaruance, etc.) might be?
Also, I was wondering why the bearing housing were designed integral with the plate. Wouldn'the it be better to have adjustable bearing spacing in these reels?
Looks like the machining and anodizing on these is top notch. I am sure the tolerances and strength are there. I kinda wish I needed a set.
I went with the integral bearing on the right plate only. Really all you need(if anything) is a shim or two versus the entire bearing cup. The left side has all the tension and adjustment.
Kind of like the Newells that only used shims behind the bearings.
If I can save a few bucks here and there, I can spend them on custom screws and multiple colors,etc, without a significant price increase to the customer.
Now I can let all of you beta this for me!
Tom
Ah yes, those screws!
So as we all figured out, the screw diameter is about .01" thou bigger than a stock screw.
I'll get a work around on it this weekend and then send anyone having issues a new set of screws.
Tom
Was I supposed to get a spacing sleeve in my goody bag? 'Cause I didn't, and I need one....
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on April 29, 2016, 03:11:42 AM
Was I supposed to get a spacing sleeve in my goody bag? 'Cause I didn't, and I need one....
Sid
It's OK if the answer is no, I just need to know the size I need to order.
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on April 29, 2016, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on April 29, 2016, 03:11:42 AM
Was I supposed to get a spacing sleeve in my goody bag? 'Cause I didn't, and I need one....
Sid
It's OK if the answer is no, I just need to know the size I need to order.
Sid
Sorry, spacer sleeves were not included.
Tom if you have a set of silver plates please let me know. I know I'm a dummy..!!
I sent a paypal request to the email you contacted me with yesterday.
If you have a specific paypal address, please let me know.
Sorry Keith! I thought this was about the 9/0 frame.
I do have a set for you.
I'll PM you in a few.
Tom
Well, thank you all!
There a few of each style left of each style and color except the new style red plates. They are sold out!
Tom
I need a set of silver old style plates. Thanks
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 30, 2016, 03:00:47 AM
Well, thank you all!
There a few of each style left of each style and color except the new style red plates. They are sold out!
Tom
No,
Thank You! Tom. They went bat #### crazy over these. ;D I'm still waiting on mine. ::)
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on April 30, 2016, 03:00:47 AM
Well, thank you all!
There a few of each style left of each style and color except the new style red plates. They are sold out!
Tom
Tom, check your PM. I need 1 set in silver new style.
S.H. you got that right (BSC). Mine arrive at the postal office at 9:53 PM Friday. Tomorrow here they come!
Tom is a Genius. I go BSC on everything he makes.
He is a true asset to this site. Born in the USA! ;)
I've been sitting on the fence with these, I just lost my balance - PM sent.
Mike
Lol, Hope you didn't hurt yourself, Mike ;D
You can't go wrong with any of the color options, they're all bad to the bone!
Can't wait till I have time to assemble these puppies. Can those who have had some fitment issues please give a full scale run down of the things to look out for when you successfully finish the build. It sure would save some of us some hair pulling. Tom's stuff usually fits like a glove, but with all the ss internals there may be some slight tailoring needed as most of you know.
Thanks and great product Tom, your name around here is synonymous with perfection.
Happy building, Crew!
Dom
I got mine today, and they look amazing! Excellent work, Tom.
Very nice job Tom, the plates look great:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160430_235013.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160430_235013.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160430_235352.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160430_235352.jpg.html)
Thanks!
Sal
Mine got here late this afternoon. Assembly line going on this evening. Blue done. Green done. Silver to go tomorrow. Photos to follow when all complete. Rudy
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 01, 2016, 04:14:19 AM
Very nice job Tom, the plates look great:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160430_235013.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160430_235013.jpg.html)
Thanks!
Sal
Nice reel Sal, good color match - including the star?? It looks a bit like the stainless one on the tank except it's red. - I'm also curious about the spool, it looks like a slight recess has been machined in the gear/handle end?
Mike
Thanks Mike! Good eye on the spool.
It is a Penn spool, but I'm not sure the cutout was done by them.
Here is a close-up:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160501_060144.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160501_060144.jpg.html)
Definitely a great option to have, it clears the bridge nicely.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 01, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
Thanks Mike! Good eye on the spool.
It is a Penn spool, but I'm not sure the cutout was done by them.
Here is a close-up:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160501_060144.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160501_060144.jpg.html)
Definitely a great option to have, it clears the bridge nicely.
Sal
To make more room for bridge screws?
Sid
Not necessarily. If that would be the case, as we've been seeing on some reels lately, shortening the screws would cure that problem.
On some reels a spacer is needed at time on the right side bearing to keep the spool from rubbing on the bridge. It could be on the pivoted sleeve post, or the edge of the bridge itself. Not all spools are equal, some are more forgiving than others. With that said, whomever came up with what you see above was a smart person. Always good to take the guesswork out when possible.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 01, 2016, 02:36:32 PM
Not all spools are equal
Sal
I hear that. I've got a 113h spool with the spindle just wide enough that I can't get Alan C's SS pinion over it. Another spool is fine. It's off by just a thousandth of an inch or two or three... Penn specs are looser than Alan's....
Sid
Sal, where is the handle arm from? Is that a prototype from Adam before the back end was rounded off? Rudy
Rudy, that is from Adam latest, I'm not sure if he has another design. He will need to answer on that one.
Quote from: RowdyW on May 01, 2016, 03:39:50 PM
Sal, where is the handle arm from? Is that a prototype from Adam before the back end was rounded off? Rudy
That is one of the prototype offset handles. The new ones will have 2 positions, and the back end rounded off. I have the new ones cut, but haven't had time to make a die for bending them yet.
You do such good work Adam, thank you.
Rowdy
Did you hide the thread for your blue and green builds?
Can't seem to find it?
Quote from: David Hall on May 01, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
Rowdy
Did you hide the thread for your blue and green builds?
Can't seem to find it?
David, I still have to finish the silver build then I'll show all three. Rudy
Oh I see, you want us to suffer sensory overload by posting them all at once!
David,
Go to Senators thread titled "My Apple" on page 3 for the black and green builds. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17861.30
And "A different Anniversary" for the blue build. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17900.0
And "How to convert 113 to no lugs" also the blue build. http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17944.0
Quote from: RowdyW on May 01, 2016, 11:32:37 PM
Quote from: David Hall on May 01, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
Rowdy
Did you hide the thread for your blue and green builds?
Can't seem to find it?
David, I still have to finish the silver build then I'll show all three. Rudy
I'm Rudy's camera man, and I'll be out of town for a little while, so it's looking like it's my fault you'll have to wait to see Rudy's builds. :(
Sid
I was able to rework the bridge screws this weekend.
For those of you that had fitment issues, PM me your name, address, and number of sets, and I'll get a new set out to you.
Tom
Tom, I'll take a set of new style black plates if you have any left.
Ed
Couldn't resist putting a 4/0 together using whatever parts were on hand.
This one is bone-stock running steel gears, stainless bars, and Tom's side plates.
Assembly was straightforward--no issues.
The plates are very nice and well worth the cost.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/unchained_colors/Mobile%20Uploads/20160503_063434.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/unchained_colors/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160503_063434.jpg.html)
Chad
Quote from: cbar45 on May 03, 2016, 07:26:45 PM
Couldn't resist putting a 4/0 together using whatever parts were on hand.
This one is bone-stock running steel gears, stainless bars, and Tom's side plates.
Assembly was straightforward--no issues.
The plates are very nice and well worth the cost.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/unchained_colors/Mobile%20Uploads/20160503_063434.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/unchained_colors/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160503_063434.jpg.html)
Chad
sometimes beauty is on the simple things, this reel looks gorgeous, black and chrome, maybe a black bigger knob and you're set
-- Alex
She's a beauty Chad and your correct, the workmanship on the side plates is excellent!
Hey, wanted to let you know I had a small scrap of the stabilized wood to play with. Turns up nicely on the lathe but definitely different than the Acrylic and its hard to believe its even more expensive !!!
Regards, .. Lou
That's a beautiful reel Chad. I especially like the low profile "D" shaped lugs. I believe those are only found on the earliest 113H models.
Ted
Nice!
Thanks Daron!
Ted,
I'm with you on those lugs--they make for a nice clean look, thought the newer ones are slightly beefier. Just wish they came in stainless.
Lou,
Thanks, I was wondering if you ever got the chance to follow up on that. From what I've seen of your acrylic knobs, I'm sure the stabilized will have the same level of craftsmanship. Got any photos?
Alex,
Good idea on the knob. As Henry Ford wrote, you can have any color you want as long as it's black!...(and silver)...;)
Quote from: cbar45 on May 04, 2016, 08:54:39 AM
Thanks Daron!
Ted,
I'm with you on those lugs--they make for a nice clean look, thought the newer ones are slightly beefier. Just wish they came in stainless.
They can be cut, PM me the dimensions you want.
Simplicity at its finest!
Thats really some nice work Chad ;)
Quote from: cbar45 on May 03, 2016, 07:26:45 PM
Couldn't resist putting a 4/0 together using whatever parts were on hand.
This one is bone-stock running steel gears, stainless bars, and Tom's side plates.
Assembly was straightforward--no issues.
The plates are very nice and well worth the cost.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/unchained_colors/Mobile%20Uploads/20160503_063434.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/unchained_colors/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160503_063434.jpg.html)
very slick.....the butterscotch is by far my favorite stock handle. I'm hunting Stren Hi Vis gold in 50lb for these.
Chad
Chad, do you know Stren Hi-Vis Gold line is actually Orange? I got some on ebay. You might have to look under catfish mono line. Rudy
Hey Rudy , this is me hunting it. The original HI VIS Gold actually is more yellow than orange; I just bought some Catfish Orange also because the Gold is very hard to come by. I'll post a pic this weekend but you are correct the Catfish is rather orange. Which raises a bigger question...am I actually going fishing or matching a tie to a suit???
Lord. I think I need a cane pole....
John
John, I have a couple of reels with the Hi-Vis Gold that is over 8 years old & it is the same color as the new catfish line (orange). I was in contact with Stren about a year ago to find out if they had any old stock. It's all gone, they said I have to use the catfish line. There aren't many colors that will match it but that hi-vis "orange" sure is visible day or night. At night when you shine any kind of light at it, it looks like it has lights in it. I haven't found anything brighter day or night. I'm sure you wouldn't want to wear a tie that color ;D ;D
Noted....and you are correct sir, I'm too big and ugly for an orange suit!!! lmao
OK, I'll bite! ;D
I'll take one set of old type plates in blue, if available.
Where you been Rico?
You have to stay in touch to get the latest and greatest.
Tom has been delivering the goods! Born in the USA Baby!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRxAs3YZjcc&feature=player_embedded
Thanks Tom, I just received side plates today.
Can anyone tell me where those two bronze bushings go? Do I need them?
Thanks in advance,
Max
You can use them in place of the bearings less chance of problems if you don't service your reel often.
Mike
It has been brought to my attention that some of the colors have built up a bit in the bearing pocket of the right side plate.
Try putting both the plate and the bearing in the freezer for about 15 minutes. I found it made installing and removing much easier.
Tom
Ps. I am out of bronze bushings, so if you have your heart set on them, please let me know.
Hello, are any old style plates available?
Quote from: RonRico on May 06, 2016, 02:23:50 AM
Hello, are any old style plates available?
PM sent
How about new style plates?
Look who's getting a set of blue plates! ;D
had been stockpiling a few 113H organ donors in advance of these builds and was focusing on older ones with steel gears, but in a case of cranio-rectal infarction I forgot they had tophats.....what spacer do I need to to tighten up the handle slop?
thanks!
John
John,
I had the same concern but I was impatient and decided to put mine together with the top-hat inside the plate. There's no contact and no friction or sign of interference. Maybe Tom designed them this way. Let us know if this works for you too.
-Mike
Quote from: thorhammer on May 11, 2016, 06:48:15 PM
had been stockpiling a few 113H organ donors in advance of these builds and was focusing on older ones with steel gears, but in a case of cranio-rectal infarction I forgot they had tophats.....what spacer do I need to to tighten up the handle slop?
thanks!
John
John, use an 18-970 tension spring & a 9-113h spacing sleeve on top of the drag stack. That's the way a later 113h &113hl are built Rudy
Some of these plates are getting big and taller:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160512_215823.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160512_215823.jpg.html)
Quote from: PacRat on May 11, 2016, 08:07:39 PM
John,
I had the same concern but I was impatient and decided to put mine together with the top-hat inside the plate. There's no contact and no friction or sign of interference. Maybe Tom designed them this way. Let us know if this works for you too.
-Mike
I tried that and had a no-go situation. Scott's & EBay parts on the way. I'm going to use the top hat to put the old reel back together.
Sorry John...I forgot to mention I have Adam's drag inserts in a Newell gear with a delrin washer under the gear in mine. That might be the difference. Which gear and drag are you using?
Mike
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 13, 2016, 02:15:54 AM
Some of these plates are getting big and taller:
Tom must have them in a good pasture Sal - with a bit of luck, and plenty of food, some might fit a 349 in a few months time. ;D
Mike
Stock main and carbontex. I need a bunch of other stuff from Scott's for various projects so I'll add it in. No biggy. Let us know what drag numbers you make with that setup.
thanks folks!
Got my plates in, WOW! ;D
They are simply amazing!
Hey Sal,
Whatcha got there? Looks like your jig master and 113h is all grow up now. ::)
Sweet stuff!
Dom
Quote from: broadway on May 13, 2016, 07:30:42 PM
Hey Sal,
Whatcha got there? Looks like your jig master and 113h is all grow up now. ::)
Sweet stuff!
Dom
Yup!...you are the blame for fattening them up ;D.
Thanks again buddy. ;)
A big thank you to Tom, these side plates are awesome!
No pics yet, waiting on a couple more parts.
Pics of my son's old school classic with Ted's awesome bars holding together Tom's awesome blue Cortez side plates. I am officially in the que for Ted's next run.
When's the next plate run Tom?
that's looking very patriotic, Randy!
Sid
We need 112h, 114h, & 115 plates. What's the next run going to be? Rudy
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 18, 2016, 01:23:03 AM
Pics of my son's old school classic with Ted's awesome bars holding together Tom's awesome blue Cortez side plates. I am officially in the que for Ted's next run.
Wow Randy, you built a sweet reel for your son. One of a kind. Congrats to your lucky son, and you're a darn good dad !!
Ted
I actually have never owned a 113h. His was the first I've done, and was part of his birthday loot. He also scored a new Venture Outdoors floatcat.
I have another set of Tom's plates I am doing a build with. If I ever get all the parts located.
Tom, my plates arrived today. Gorgeous.
Thanks again, Ed
Very nice Randy. Wow, that combination is amazing.
Wow!! Awesome 8)
Marc..
I put together two sets of red sideplates, one old style the other new style. I had previously upgraded three 4/0 special senators with sleeves and gear sets, tiburon t4Nk . One of them is old style.
The old style frame was built on a newer 4/0 and using the inner trim ring came out looking great and everything functioning with the new PC bridge. Great freespool too.
The new style frame was on an older 4/0 with the external access drags, using the top hat.
Got the new bridge and all the guts installed, left side plate, spool, right side plate, OOPS. Top hat doesn't fit?
I need a spacer! Damn, all the parts I have around here and I do not have a spare spacer for a 4/0 reel?
eBay had one shipped for $5 so I ordered it, be here in a week.
Tomorrow I will start on my 4/0 WEX frame and spool, see where that goes.
I received the last pieces I needed to assembly my reel in the mail on Monday, and went ahead and put it together Monday evening. Here are the upgrade parts I installed:
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0537_zpsirxkhqxr.jpg)
- Tiburon frame and spool (which I had already been using with standard Penn components)
- Tom's plates and goodie bag
- SS gear sleeve
- Alan C's SS double dog bridge
- Keta's lug blanks
- Adam's drag insert kit and drag star
Here is the assembled reel:
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0544_zps8ezhkkvo.jpg)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/DSC_0562_zpsn87gzuw5.jpg)
It still has stock gears and a Penn 24-349H handle. I think the gears will probably last quite a long time, and I prefer the 3.25 gear ratio rather than something higher. A handle upgrade would look good and I may do that at some point, but I find the throw length of this handle to be perfect for me, and the grip feels good in my hand.
I was able to get 28 lb of drag, tested on my drag scale. I could get about 21.5-22 with the stock drag washers, so it is a noticeable increase. I intend to fish it at 18-20 lb anyway.
The reel went together without a hitch. The only "tuning" I needed to perform was a bit of light filing on the inside of the thick top washer that came with the drag insert kit. It was a little too tight to slide over the SS gear sleeve that I used, but a few strokes of a file cured that, and it is still a nice tight fit.
It is great that all these upgrades are available to us. Thank you to Tom, Alan C, Adam & Keta for making these upgrade parts, and also Sal and others for the part testing and innovations, and of course Alan T for making this all possible!
Finally got the objects of my desire 3 new 113h pro challenger bridges, so i can get started on my builds, very excited.
Black plates Silver frame,and an all red one.
That green ones a beauty, like that star.
mark
Very nice reel Bryan, looks great and will fish even better.
Bryan, reel looks great.
What size star did you use? 3" or 2.75"
Thanks Peter
Quote from: p-deverett on May 25, 2016, 09:05:43 PM
Bryan, reel looks great.
What size star did you use? 3" or 2.75"
Thanks Peter
Thanks! That is a 2.75" drag star.
Here is my finished Hawaiian Wide. All it needs now is the second generation gears.
Mike
Nice job Mike.
I now own my first ever 113, a Tiburon narrow 113 with Tom's plates. (pics later). Really love this one.
Unfortunately when I tilt the reel to the handle side the spool rubs. Does this mean I need to locate the dreaded shim to move the handle side bearing out toward the center? If so, how thick do you go?
Wow!!! Those look awesome :o
Marc..
Show us a picture of the spool. It could be the bridge screws rubbing. Maybe they are to long. The spool on the wide isn't a problem but my jigmaster with Tom's plates was I had to file the screws down to flush with the plate to get clearance.
+2 on checking the bridge screws first. Don't dread the shim too much. McMaster-Carr sells some really nice shims (Type 316 Stainless Steel Round Shim, 0.005" Thick, 1/4" ID, 3/8" OD.) You can get different thicknesses and the right one (or combination) will get you dialed in.
-Mike
Omigosh Mike, you nailed it. Thanks. After you mentioned it I remembered you had posted something about that.
I swapped the old screws back in and it's good to go. Can we grind them to shorten them?
Mike and Mike coming up with answers !! ;D
Yes and it didn't happen if there's no pics? Maybe you haven't built it yet! These sideplate builds are the most awesome eye candy and if I can't see what your doing with them? Well there's just no point to this thread so don't be stingy post em up!
Finding the right handle and star that goes with the reel is the hard part. It also has to be functional at the same time.
Awesome Builds Bryan and Mike!
Solid work there.
Quote from: David Hall on May 26, 2016, 03:01:24 AM
Yes and it didn't happen if there's no pics? Maybe you haven't built it yet! These sideplate builds are the most awesome eye candy and if I can't see what your doing with them? Well there's just no point to this thread so don't be stingy post em up!
Well, I picked up one of those antique hand crank grinders Sal posted about for $15, a 113h with a steel gear for $15, and a 1970's 12 speed girls bike for my daughter the other day at a garage sale, all for $70 total.
Tomorrow I'm going to grind the screws and then put it back together, and then I'll post it up David. ;D
EDIT: I do need a shim it turns out. Even with stock screws its rubbing a tiny bit. I don't have time to work on it (work calls).
I have a technique for grinding screws. (Sorry, no pictures) I drill a hole in a piece of doweling and put the screw through it and then I put a nut on the end with a thread or two exposed beyond the nut. This simulates the finished thickness and gives you a better grip. This also protects the threads and your fingers (keeps you from burning them). I grind off a thread or two on the bench grinder then clean it up with a dremel. I'll dress the last thread also if exposed. Unscrewing the nut restores any distorted thread near the end. Finally I give the last thread a final dressing with the dremel if necessary. I start long and test until it's just right. You can dial in the jig by grinding the nut a little thinner or you can shorten the dowel a little. I like a little chamfer on the final thread. These little holders will burn and melt (sometimes I use plastic) and the nuts get thinner if I'm being aggressive. So I just keep them laying around and I mix and match dowels and nut to find the length I want. You can also shim the nut out with washers but I don't bother.
Have fun
-Mike
That Hawaiian wide is bad to the bone. nice handle match.
I got a handle arm and knob on ebay and decided to put them on this reel.
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/bcraighrst/photo%2013_zpsobcphpkx.jpg)
The knob seemed too big to me at first, but it is starting to grow on me. I think I will try fishing it like this and see how it works out.
I have the same arm without the knob. I will use it with Alans 113 narrow when it gets finished.
Thanks Pacrat for the info, I'm sure I'll use it. Just in case I ordered a package of the shims.
I had a couple tiburon framed 4/0 I upgraded with hot rod parts last year just waiting for aToms Plates.
One is the old style and uses the inner trim ring, the other is new style and has no rings. I didn't bother with step by step pics as we have a ton of those posts.
Another view
David,
That red 4/0 with the chrome looks classy. I never cared for the old style Tib frames with both chrome rings but those single rings are unique and just right.
-Mike
Great looking reel!
Quote from: PacRat on May 29, 2016, 12:39:47 AM
David,
That red 4/0 with the chrome looks classy. I never cared for the old style Tib frames with both chrome rings but those single rings are unique and just right.
-Mike
X2 very well matched
Marc..
David I like that strip of shiny on there. Both are nice.
These both feature all the latest greatest internals as well and these will be my local albacore reels, all I need is for the albacore to come back!
The single chrome ring does give a nice contrast to the otherwise all red scheme.
Quote from: David Hall on May 29, 2016, 05:42:39 AM
The single chrome ring does give a nice contrast to the otherwise all red scheme.
Exactly!
I keep going back and looking at these reels over and over. Now I want green and red too.
David are those knurled bearing knobs from Tom? I have three in a bag and thought they were for jigmasters.
They will fit allot of different plates. The 113 4/0 plates Tom just made. The accurate covers for the squidder magnum,jigmaster plates and 113 4/0 plates. Also Tom's custom squidder side plates.
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 29, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
I keep going back and looking at these reels over and over. Now I want green and red too.
David are those knurled bearing knobs from Tom? I have three in a bag and thought they were for jigmasters.
Yes Randy, I had a few extras too and installed on a couple of Tom's 4/0 plates.....Toms knurled bearing cup fits his jigmasters and 4/0's
Ted
Thanks for the info guys. Since I only recently acquired the 113h's I'm learning new stuff everyday.
I have been going to my binder of reel schematics and finding cross fitting parts between jigmasters and 113h's. Saved myself a few bucks since I already had springs, etc.
I kind of like the smooth look better without the knurled knob on my narrow.
Dave, you messed me up with that red reel, now I need to hunt older style frames.
What a difference those rings make...love it!
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 29, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Dave, you messed me up with that red reel, now I need to hunt older style frames.
What a difference those rings make...love it!
Sal
I know Sal, you get your hands on Toms beautiful plates and suddenly your frame hunting again, I'm looking for a 4/0 accurate or Tiburon frame and spool to match up with my blue side plates, I'd like to find a topless gold frame and spool, hunting is tedious, I found an old school full frame tiburon but can't decide if that's the route I want to go. Fortunately I'm almost out of Toms side plates so the hunting will end sometime.
I just missed a set of Accurate side plates for $85.00 shipped on my local fishing forum. Silver too. Just what I needed.
Quote from: handi2 on May 29, 2016, 11:36:16 PM
I just missed a set of Accurate side plates for $85.00 shipped on my local fishing forum. Silver too. Just what I needed.
I still have inventory of the old style in all colors.
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on May 30, 2016, 01:48:33 AM
Quote from: handi2 on May 29, 2016, 11:36:16 PM
I just missed a set of Accurate side plates for $85.00 shipped on my local fishing forum. Silver too. Just what I needed.
I still have inventory of the old style in all colors.
When the used frame I purchased gets here I will let you know. It was local and I don't know which style frame it is.
Keith
The 113H Tibron frame I got is the new style.
A couple of progress photos.
I really like the rings, makes the reel pop. Can't wait to hear how these fish.
Ron
beautiful Work Tom, this reel will have a lot of attention eventho doesnt have the alloy frame
still beatiful with a graphite half frame
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/1%20Reel%20repair/IMAG5473%20ss_zpsdflnhfg6.jpg)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/1%20Reel%20repair/P1070856%20ss_zpsze3elo9x.jpg)
Toms plates make any reel look good.
mark
Guys What size of the hex Keys did you used to tighten the screws?
I have a set of metric sizes but I dont think they are metric sized?
Quote from: steelfish on June 03, 2016, 03:36:12 AM
Guys What size of the hex Keys did you used to tighten the screws?
I have a set of metric sizes but I dont think they are metric sized?
FWIW, I used three different sizes. The smallest was for the clicker spring. One size up from that for the side plate screws. And one more size up for the bridge screws. Not sure of the sizes though. I just rooted around in my drawer of hex keys until I found ones that fit.
I used a 5/64" for the clicker screws, 3/32" for the side plate screws and 7/64" for the bridge screws.
Mike
Quote from: mhc on June 03, 2016, 02:21:07 PM
I used a 5/64" for the clicker screws, 3/32" for the side plate screws and 7/64" for the bridge screws.
Mike
thanks Mike, I knew it, they are SAE sizes
I like these from McMaster Carr. They could be shortened but I like them long as they act like a torque wrench. I tighten until the shaft flexes a bit. When I loosen a screw it makes a crisp little snap as the screw cracks loose. Also, I grip the shaft between my finger tips and I can spin these real quickly in or out with a lot more finesse than a screwdriver. What I really like about using this technique is that I can feel any resistance and stop before damaging anything. Once the screw is fully seated I torque down on it until the shaft flexes a little.
-Mike
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/fishing%20reel/Tools/0f1d8439-4999-40ad-a4eb-cfcea2d8c7b8_zps5vpwojwb.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/fishing%20reel/Tools/0f1d8439-4999-40ad-a4eb-cfcea2d8c7b8_zps5vpwojwb.jpg.html)
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah30/mwhelm/fishing%20reel/Tools/20160603_110256_zpsvxc5s1sx.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/mwhelm/media/fishing%20reel/Tools/20160603_110256_zpsvxc5s1sx.jpg.html)
I have same Eklind brand Mike, except mine has a solid T-bar handle.
This one came from Stellar Industrial Supply.
Ted
nice, I will try to find those drivers, they look pretty cool and bet they work even better.
thanks again Mike
Quote from: steelfish on June 03, 2016, 11:20:39 PM
nice, I will try to find those drivers, they look pretty cool and bet they work even better.
thanks again Mike
got this on on ebay... good quality German made... good seller too...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiha-54008-7-64-Soft-Grip-Ball-End-Hex-SAE-Dual-Drive-T-handle-/162002542233?hash=item25b81a9e99:g:Q2wAAOSwmmxW4PKZ
I still have inventory on the old style plates in Ice Blue, Silver, Black, and Green.
I'll be listing them on Ebay this week, so if you are on the fence on these, please let me know.
Thanks!
Tom
Finally got around to getting a donor reel for the needed parts going into my Ice blues. Was stoked that I found a 113hlw with SS gears and sleeve. The current frame, spool and handle are just to test fit...to make it into the reel it can be I need a shiny new T4W kit and one of the bosses SS handles. Can't wait to finish this build and hook up to a big trevally!
(http://i.imgur.com/EVSoqxdl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/f6DFlJdl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ly7iAWsl.jpg)
Looks great already Yogy...good job!
Tom side plates on a nice tiburon wide frame
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/carrretes/113h%20cortez%20special%20Alex/IMAG6035%20ss_zpsy3yqglqw.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/carrretes/113h%20cortez%20special%20Alex/IMAG6035%20ss_zpsy3yqglqw.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/carrretes/113h%20cortez%20special%20Alex/IMAG6048%20ss_zps2m9sdovq.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/carrretes/113h%20cortez%20special%20Alex/IMAG6048%20ss_zps2m9sdovq.jpg.html)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa198/alextellofotos/carrretes/113h%20cortez%20special%20Alex/IMAG6056%20ss_zpsfrrjgjik.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/alextellofotos/media/carrretes/113h%20cortez%20special%20Alex/IMAG6056%20ss_zpsfrrjgjik.jpg.html)
Nice! I'm still building mine. I need a frame, spool, gearset, and handle. The I'm done.
What are you looking for specifically (colors, widths, etc.)?
I don't have the finances yet, but I'll call you when I do.
A couple of Mark's reels:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160628_131347.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160628_131347.jpg.html)
Enjoy them Mark!
Sal
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on June 15, 2016, 03:59:36 AM
I still have inventory on the old style plates in Ice Blue, Silver, Black, and Green.
I'll be listing them on Ebay this week, so if you are on the fence on these, please let me know.
Thanks!
Tom
Tom did you get the email from me wanting some of the old style 113H side plates?
Keith
Keith, I think Tom went on a little fishing trip. He'll be back soon. Today? I'm talking to him too re: some side plates.
With Tom's side plates any reel will look fantastic. With that said, we are seeing some very beautiful builds here on A.T. From stock to tricked out hot-rods.
I love seeing everyone's take on their builds. Same reel but their own design.
Here's a T4W Tib from Randy Pauly, with stock parts on the inside.
The Sting (Velvet Red Ant) it,s actually a wasp.
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/Red-Velvet-Ants-Facts-Giant-Male-Sting-and-Diet-Photo-courtesy-Jason-Wilcox-McDavid-Florida_zpsewupxksn.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/Red-Velvet-Ants-Facts-Giant-Male-Sting-and-Diet-Photo-courtesy-Jason-Wilcox-McDavid-Florida_zpsewupxksn.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/20160709_161154_zpsn9dxnmvf.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/20160709_161154_zpsn9dxnmvf.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/20160709_161255_zpsv9n8rvi9.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/20160709_161255_zpsv9n8rvi9.jpg.html)
Next up AF-113R frame from Broadway Dom, purchase here on A.T. over a year ago. Along with a MaxOut clamp.
Thanks Dom this baby has been waiting for the right stuff. The guts are with the all latest goods from Adam and Alan C.
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/20160709_181219_zpsx4bbbwtz.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/20160709_181219_zpsx4bbbwtz.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/20160709_181449_zpsi8dtakhp.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/20160709_181449_zpsi8dtakhp.jpg.html)
Those parts sure make a great looking reel, really like that wasp.
Nice additions to the show twotone!
I need that ProGear handle for one of my projects.... 8)
Anthony, those are some very slick looking reels. Great color combinations. I love the topless wide version, and also the clean look on the other with the Keta lug blanks........ Can't wait to see Tom's next creation for us to customize :D :D
Ted
The velvet red ant theme reel looks damn good. Love all the 113h builds our guys have put together.
Tom,
I'm new here so I missed out on this deal when you began the thread. If you should do another run that will fit current production Tiburon frames, I would love a set in green.
Patrick
Great looking reel!
Andy
I finally got around to putting a set of Tom's plates on one my Tanks.
This was an older 113H as the donor. It had a top hat , so I couldn't finish it up without a spacer sleeve. If anyone has one..
I am in need. I checked High and Low. I don't have one.
I used third generation Black Pearl gears and an insert from Adam.
I originally bought the plates for this reel, so I'm sticking to the plan. Ice Blue meets Cobalt Blue.
Looks good Daron, even if the color combo does cross my eyes a little. ;D ;D Rudy
Nice job Daron. Me and Ted actually like the Cobalt Blue, unfortunately, not many others did, so that color got left out :-\
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 07, 2016, 05:11:27 AM
I finally got around to putting a set of Tom's plates on one my Tanks.
This was an older 113H as the donor. It had a top hat , so I couldn't finish it up without a spacer sleeve. If anyone has one..
I am in need. I checked High and Low. I don't have one.
I used third generation Black Pearl gears and an insert from Adam.
I originally bought the plates for this reel, so I'm sticking to the plan. Ice Blue meets Cobalt Blue.
I think I have a spacer. will check tomorrow.
Tom sorry you missed out. If could do it over I would have done more new style plates, so versatile meaning the side plates work with more the frames.
Yep I'm really liking Blue the SH.
Tom:
What is the plan for more new style 4/0 side plates?
Thanks!
Andy
Quote from: steelhead_killer on September 13, 2016, 03:33:51 PM
Tom:
What is the plan for more new style 4/0 side plates?
Thanks!
Andy
There's not really any plan going forward Andy.
If there is enough interest, I can put something in the works.
I have a few more projects that will be side plates only. After that pretty much everything will be full kits with our own frames to lighten up the load and control tolerances and fitment.
Tom
What kind of plates :) ?????
I could use a couple more new style 4/0 plates. Rudy
If you're looking for interest, I'd take two sets of new style side plates.
I'd be good for a few sets of plates too. Thanks
Sheridan
I'd take two new styles
If you can hold 2 sets for me also.
I could use a few new style plates also.
I could use a set of the new style 4/0 sideplates
I need a set of green plates that do not have the harness lug cutouts.
Patrick
Quote from: spc7669 on January 13, 2017, 08:17:25 PM
I need a set of green plates that do not have the harness lug cutouts.
Patrick
I second this request. I'd love one set of green side plates without the lug cut outs for a new style Tiburon frame please!
Thank you,
Trevor Kellar
Trevorkellar@yahoo.com
The lug cutout is on the Tiburon frame too and would look funny with nothing in that slit IMO. Lee sells nice lug blanks that fill in the spot and clean as can be, so no reason to eliminate that lug notch, and it'll make adding lugs an option for any future owner. Just a thought.
Quote from: Maxed Out on February 24, 2017, 01:37:43 AM
The lug cutout is on the Tiburon frame too and would look funny with nothing in that slit IMO. Lee sells nice lug blanks that fill in the spot and clean as can be, so no reason to eliminate that lug notch, and it'll make adding lugs an option for any future owner. Just a thought.
X2
I had the same thought.
If gauging interest, I'll take two sets.
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/20170305_194726_zpsxss7ct7i.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/20170305_194726_zpsxss7ct7i.jpg.html)
I was saving these plates for Teds 113hn kit.
Patience pays off.
Thx again R.P. for the spool and handle.
Quote from: twotone on March 06, 2017, 03:57:47 AM
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I was saving these plates for Teds 113hn kit.
Patience pays off.
Thx again R.P. for the spool and handle.
Thats a pretty one!
That is SWEET!!! :o Nice color combo.
.....Lou
Nice reel Anthony.
The old style plates look awesome with the slotted bars.
How bout a head on shot of that green goblin
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/20170308_1655011_zpswlzar8er.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/20170308_1655011_zpswlzar8er.jpg.html)(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p633/doen1/Reel/20170308_165051_zpsmjgim7uq.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/doen1/media/Reel/20170308_165051_zpsmjgim7uq.jpg.html)
Here you go Ted (head shot) !
Yes to pretty to use Tightlines.
Beautiful, definitely my favorite color combination ...good job!
:o :o :o Beautiful color combo!
Andy
It'll be hard to top that build Anthony.
Stay tuned, matching green knob might appear out of thin air ;D
This one's for Randy(Rancanfish), 'cause I can't show a photo in the PM section relative to the new plates and the new/old tib. Frames, but please comment if you wanna. Tryin to buy his plates for my T4N, some confusion on my part. Will Tom's newst plates fit?
Gfish
If your frame has cut outs, the side plates with cut outs will not work.
The lugs would float in the cut out.
I can't see in your pic, sorry.
I wish the plates were referred to as cut out / not cut out. I can't keep up with new style frame, old style frame, new style plates, old style plates.
Some of the guys have it all down, I'm not so lucky. I think I messed up a deal I made earlier and I don't want a repeat with one of the Ohana.
Gfish, the frame you are showing in the right side of the photo will fit the new style CC plates. Rudy
Rudy, with NO lug cut outs right?
I go by the lip on the outer edge of the frame. The older style Tib & the Accurate frames are flat across the ends of the frame. New style CC plates will fit old style Tib & Accurate frames if you reuse the original inner rings. Old style CC plates only fit older style Tib & Accurate frames. The new style CC plates have a step machined in the inner edge to fit into the new style frame or install inner rings on the new style CC plates to use them on older style Tib or Accurate frames. Just look for the step on the plates or the lip on the frames for the new style system. Rudy
Thanks much Rudy! Looks like a go Randy. If you'ed like to sell 'em to me, PM me instructions, please. Mabey we were over- thinkin it, or perhaps it was the way it was written at the beginning of this thread?...
Gfish
Question for Tom, probably been asked/answered already, but here goes:
how come no more plates in black? too difficult/expensive to produce, or not enough demand? either way, these are great, and I'm very happy with ALL of my cortez conversions products. THANKS Tom!!!!
Choosing colors is always tough.
Black is usually a hard sell, especially to those who are really fishing their gear. The dark colors show every nick, scratch, dent, and ding. While I love all the shelfies, I really do want to see this stuff fished! My productions runs are small and so having a myriad of colors is not cost effective. It would also be impossible to keep any one color in stock.
I added red and skipped the black this go around. Maybe if there is another run I'll bring back the black by demand!
Thank you,
Tom
Tom, is it to early to put in a request for a pair of silver side plates for the Tib. T4N "new style" frame(1-set)?
This request relative to your post on Randy's Vintage Offshore Tackle where he answered my post about same. Red's OK too and cosmetically challenged no biggie.
Gfish
Quote from: Gfish on April 12, 2017, 10:33:15 PM
Tom, is it to early to put in a request for a pair of silver side plates for the Tib. T4N "new style" frame(1-set)?
This request relative to your post on Randy's Vintage Offshore Tackle where he answered my post about same. Red's OK too and cosmetically challenged no biggie.
Gfish
Hello Gfish,
It would be too difficult to keep multiple lists of who wants what. The whole logic behind the website is to have one central location for all inventory. Makes it harder for me to screw up! ;D
Even after saying that, last week I still had a snafu for a customer who was able to order and pay for more items than what was in actual inventory. I gladly refunded the extra payment, but still, it feels bad.
I will announce when the plates are ready and up on the site for purchase.
Tom
No reason to feel bad Tom.
You provide a valuable service that no other person on this earth can do like you.
Your quality and perfection are second to none.
We all hit bumps in the road.
It Happens.
Your products speak Volumes my friend. ;)
X2, Tom n' Daron. Just put together my first full-fledged " tank" usin' your JM plates Tom. They arrived yesterday. Just about as cool as it can get for a penn reel. Now in the process a maggin it 'cause the bearings work so darn good! Hmmm, my tendency is ta write down every upgrade done, plus all line info., with dates, ona label somewhere on the frame 'er side, mabey NOT THIS TIME!
Thought I 'd get on the 4/0 plates asap 'cause I' m usually behind others and I know some people order a-lot at once(which's what I'd do if built reels for other folks).
There's so much art produced on this Forum and it just keeps gettin' better...
Thanks for sending my Easter gift Tom!
Gfish
That is a sweet looking reel Gfish!
Gfish, I see you're epoxying washers onto the left side plate for the magnets. What is the circular object around the washers? Or have you stacked washers to get the magnets closer to the spool?
Sid
I stacked the washers big, then small then ended up stackin 2 magnets on each. Works but not as good as 4 single washer/mags spread out like I had in the original penn plate. Tom's plates are several mm's deeper than the penn. May need to slow it more, with another combo. Only field testin's gonna tell for sure!
Update: works fine with two magnets stacked.
Gfish
I have three of the four colors in my possession, just waiting for the reds.
Now here's where things are going to get even more confusing! There are two reds based on the new and old style colors.
They each are a close match to the original red color. So if you order a new Tib style and an original old style set they will be different shades of red.
I'm hoping to pick them up Friday, so expect to see all them on the website Monday!
Tom
Personally, I'm not really concerened about color/coordinating, etc. They look like a quality american designed/made product that allows me to strengthen my reel by replacing plastic with metal, same as those JM plates I got now. I get the flashey customizing display thing, but for me, I'd rather it was antique reels as shelf princesses, if I's gonna display 'em. The Antiques look cool but usually don't fish as well as modern stuff. BTW, my tib. frames a new style.
Gfish
Thanks for all your patience everyone.
The 113H side plates are now available online!
Tom
Do Maxed Out parts use the old or new style?
Old style. But you might be able to use the new style if you use a set of Penn inner rings. Rudy
Just placed my order ;D
I received my side plates this morning. And they came with matching bridge screws ;D
Yeah, just got mine 2 days ago. For me, the hardware they come with really makes it well worth the the $. Just hadda cut and smooth off the bridge plate screws, 'bout an 1/8" as per an eariler post and tweak the tail-plate click spring a bit to make it hold on to the pawl in "click mode. Otherwise went toghther without a hitch. Gonna "dead bait" troll tomorrow with it, if I can escape all the traps of terra-firma domestic responsibilities, with my assignment oriented spouse on the Island now... I make it sound worse than it is, she keeps me steerin it between the lines.
Thank you Tom!
Gfish
Just got some Blue Cortez plates for my 113h. Are they machined to run double dogs? Sure looks like they are.
Thanks,
Trevor
Quote from: TongassFisher on June 13, 2017, 03:28:11 AM
Just got some Blue Cortez plates for my 113h. Are they machined to run double dogs? Sure looks like they are.
Thanks,
Trevor
They are cut for right or left handed reels with single dogs. Rudy
Tom,
When will you do another run of new style blue 113h side plates?
The new T4NI frame will need a home
Nick
The Blue went out of stock this week. I haven't even had a chance to look at the 2018 schedule yet. I still have Silver and Green on the website.
I will tell you all that I will be getting a lot more projects out the door in 2018. More on that later though...
Happy Holidays!
Tom
Tom have ever thought of doing penn 118 16/0 side plates.
Mike
Quote from: mikeysm on December 23, 2017, 06:25:54 PM
Tom have ever thought of doing penn 118 16/0 side plates.
Mike
Indeed I have.
I've actually been working on a project called the chairmen.
10/0 thru 16/0, maybe even the 9/0. Serialized sets and individual full frame kits.
2018 will bring a lot of new things I'm not quite ready to announce yet,
So stay tuned!
Tom
Whoa Nelly.
Your last posts make much more sense now!
I think we'll all be anxiously waiting all the creations your mad science lab comes up with this year.
Nick
Just got a set of sideplates in the mail. They look great!
Tom, It appears that all of the new style 4/0 side plates are out of stock.
What do you see in the 2018 crystal ball for the 113H?
Thanks
-gary
Quote from: Gman_WC on April 27, 2018, 02:51:43 AM
Tom, It appears that all of the new style 4/0 side plates are out of stock.
What do you see in the 2018 crystal ball for the 113H?
Thanks
-gary
I have a new batch at the anodizer now. As soon as I get them back, they will be available.
Tom
Thank you sir! :o
-gary
Ok guys and gals, I just picked up the kits! They will be on the website by Friday.
Thanks,
Tom
Saweeet !!
Nice Tom!
Sal
;D Great news!
-g
Here's a pic of my black and red yts, finally got one to function perfectly. If you look closely I used a Custom finished star and blade from Dom (Broadway) that adds a very unique look. (Nice work Dom). Was wondering if it's possible to anodize side plates like these and if so would anyone else be interested? The picture doesn't do justice to the parts but it would make a very unique reel. There's so much variation in color they'd work on about any frame and every reel would have a one of a kind pattern. Any thoughts? Sheridan
Quote from: Swami805 on May 02, 2018, 11:22:32 PM
Here's a pic of my black and red yts, finally got one to function perfectly. If you look closely I used a Custom finished star and blade from Dom (Broadway) that adds a very unique look. (Nice work Dom). Was wondering if it's possible to anodize side plates like these and if so would anyone else be interested? The picture doesn't do justice to the parts but it would make a very unique reel. There's so much variation in color they'd work on about any frame and every reel would have a one of a kind pattern. Any thoughts? Sheridan
You are right Sheridan picture doesn't do justice...where is the pic? :D
Pic didn't post
Looks like someone has been heating titanium.
Sheridan, you are absolutely correct, those are not easy to photograph. They do look much better live.
I've done a few assembly using those and was impressed.
Dom also sent me a set ( star and blade) with fish scales...they look great!
I've watched knife making in the past, I'm not sure how these are done, but acid dipping might be involved.
Either way, they look great!
Sal
The reel so nice I photoed it thrice! One of these days I'll get this computer thing figured out.
Quote from: Swami805 on May 03, 2018, 01:16:28 PM
The reel so nice I photoed it thrice!
;D It deserves three photos!
Mike
Here is the set I was talking about, also from Broadway!
(https://i.imgur.com/21FucK4.jpg)
I couldn't find it, I had it with my special stuff ;D
Thanks again Dom!
Sal
By the way Sheridan, that handle screw is throwing your set off and it has to go! ...just a problem I have with small details :)
I concur! Just got some new ones from mysticparts. Just figured out I can save a bundle of money by getting the few small parts I need without buying donor reels. A few springs and screws is all it takes! Slow on the uptake sometimes. Still looking for a clicker spring to build my CC 349 if someone has an extra
So what do you think side plates in that finish?
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Quote from: Swami805 on May 03, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
I concur! Just got some new ones from penn parts. Just figured out I can save a bundle of money by getting the few small parts I need without buying donor reels. A few springs and screws is all it takes! Slow on the uptake sometimes. Still looking for a clicker spring to build my CC 349 if someone has an extra
So what do you think side plates in that finish?
Sheridan,
Is it the "C" shaped clicker spring you need, or the dog spring? I went though the schematics and parts lists and no clicker spring is shown so I'm assuming it's riveted to the side plate like others I've seen.
Yeah it's not on the schematic and one didn't come with the kit. It's the bid c shapes one the screws into the side plate.
Shoot me your address and I'll get one out to you.
Tom
Quote from: Swami805 on May 03, 2018, 02:32:23 PM
I concur! Just got some new ones from mysticparts. Just figured out I can save a bundle of money by getting the few small parts I need without buying donor reels. A few springs and screws is all it takes! Slow on the uptake sometimes. Still looking for a clicker spring to build my CC 349 if someone has an extra
So what do you think side plates in that finish?
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
I think the plates would look awesome. I'm nit sure it could be done on aluminum plates, but I'm no expert.
I do Think that titanium plates would be crazy expensive...but who knows :-\
Thanks Tom. I need to order a few things this weekend so that'll work out
New plate going on the website in a few minutes!
Colors are Silver, Black, Green, Ice Blue and Bordeaux Red(this is the normal deep red).
Tom
In for two (Blue-Green) to support our local custom vendors. ;)
#10542
-gary
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on May 05, 2018, 05:50:34 PM
New plate going on the website in a few minutes!
Colors are Silver, Black, Green, Ice Blue and Bordeaux Red(this is the normal deep red).
Tom
Thanks Tom, glad to see all colors available once again and black is back !! Couldn't help myself, had to make the plunge
Thanks Ted,
All the colors, but only a handful of each.
Kind of a dumb question - your old and new versions listed on your site will only work with a one piece aftermarket frame (Tiburon or Accurate)? I have a couple 4/0's with Newell Broadbill kits that would look good with some alum side plates.
Quote from: Toehi on May 18, 2018, 10:25:30 AM
Kind of a dumb question - your old and new versions listed on your site will only work with a one piece aftermarket frame (Tiburon or Accurate)? I have a couple 4/0's with Newell Broadbill kits that would look good with some alum side plates.
You could run the new style plates with the inner rings on you broad bills.
The old style will work too, but the milled slots for weight reduction will be visible on the plates.
Tom
Thanks for the reply, are you running low on the new style plates in green? Looking to order 2 sets.
Hi Tom, I just ordered a set from your site, they're for the nos jvariance yts kit I just got from Ted @ Maxed Out, going to order another next month when my super narrow kit comes in from Randy @ Vintage, thanks for making these plates, can't wait! Darin
And down the rabbit hole he fell.... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: thorhammer on September 16, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
And down the rabbit hole he fell.... ;D ;D ;D
Throw me a rope . . .
what good will that do....I'll just pull you in
true statement!
1 Set in Ice Blue, and One set in Red (any chance for a custom engraving?)
Good Evening everyone,
I just added some Black old style plates to the website.
I also added Purple new style plates. These are a deep Purple, not Tiburon Purple. Let me know what you think!
And another view
That deep purple looks sweet, show it with a black frame :)...very nice.
Sal
Tom, looks good. Now I'm going to need a set or two for the 112h in purple. Rudy
Wow good job on that color!
Morning Folks,
I'm getting word from Sal that a couple of reels have had interference issues between Newell spools and my side plates.
It looks like the clicker ratchet on some of the Newell spools are larger in diameter than stock Penn spools. Please check fit with your components!
If there is an issue, I'll gladly refund your purchase as long as the plates are not modified.
This is the mine field we sometimes have to navigate when aftermarket vendors deviate from stock dimensions...
Tom
My YTS special spools arrived today from Randy, I will see. The last YTS I built (old style plate and Accuframe) is just fine.
So far the issue has been with the Newell spools on the 113H plates, no need to check anything else.
I want to mention, if you do decide to try the Newell spool on Tom's plates for yourself, you might be committed to keep the plates.
The clicker side will definitely get scratched from the ratchet on the inside as you try to turn the handle.
I recently did one for a member and gave him my good green plate that I was going to use for myself and kept the scratched one.
It comes with the territory, even when you're just doing a favor.
Sal
In other words... don't use a Newell spool. There are plenty of other options out there and a very small hurdle for the perfection in the plates.
Great advice, Sal.
Dom
Sal, timely note...I am building two YTS's thanks to a care package from brother Ted. I have a Newell and an Accurate spool from Randy. Plates on way from Tom, so I'll use the Accurate on that one and the Newell with the stock plates / Newell bar set. That's if i didn't screw up the whole new style / old style subject, which I'm 50/50 to do. If so i will be rebuilding a bunch of my 4/0's t make everything happen. WTH, it's just lego's.
I have a newell yts spool that works perfectly with the Cortez sideplates. The clicker sprocket on this spool appears to be the same size as Penn spools.
It's not so much the size of the ratchet on the spool shaft, the Newell stick out a little more than Penn.
Earlier plates from Tom had the tongue support much shorter and didn't interfere with any spool,
That is the one I gave Bill and kept the scratched one.
Your plates might be the earlier ones as well.
Sal
Quote from: broadway on April 04, 2019, 01:41:32 AM
In other words... don't use a Newell spool. There are plenty of other options out there and a very small hurdle for the perfection in the plates.
Great advice, Sal.
Dom
Dom, you could use any spool if you happen to have the earlier kit from Tom.
If your spool looks like this one, you shouldn't have any issues:
https://i.imgur.com/9xhCHML.jpg
Here is the one in question, you could see where I needed to grind it for clearance
https://i.imgur.com/VD1NO8P.jpg
Parts from different sources are all over the place, as Tom mentioned above, he cannot make his kits to work with all available custom parts, and we should not expect him to.
Tom's work is top notch, to me one of the best I've seen up to now.
Sal
Thanks for the clarification, Sal and Ted.
Dom
Hello all,
I'm currently running a batch of new style 113H plates( Tib topless). Is there any desire for old style in colors other than Silver, Green and Black that are in stock now? I'll need 5 or so interested to run a different color.
Thanks,
Tom
P.S. I've modified my models to eliminate the issue with some Newell spools not fitting...
Thanks for doing these for us Tom!
Sal
Hello Tom,
I just ordered 2 YTS topless 4/0 frame/spool kits in silver from Tiburon.
I also have all ss inards for them. Will a double dog Pro Challenger bridge work with your side plates?
V/r,
Jay
Quote from: SearedTuna on November 11, 2019, 06:58:15 AM
Hello Tom,
I just ordered 2 YTS topless 4/0 frame/spool kits in silver from Tiburon.
I also have all ss inards for them. Will a double dog Pro Challenger bridge work with your side plates?
V/r,
Jay
Hello Jay,
I don't see why not, my plates are based on stock plates. I believe the PC parts are as well, maybe Sal or Alan C can chime in?
Tom
Yes, Tom is correct!
You will have no issues using ProChallenger's bridge.
Sal
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on November 09, 2019, 09:10:56 PM
Hello all,
I'm currently running a batch of new style 113H plates( Tib topless). Is there any desire for old style in colors other than Silver, Green and Black that are in stock now? I'll need 5 or so interested to run a different color.
Thanks,
Tom
P.S. I've modified my models to eliminate the issue with some Newell spools not fitting...
this may seem odd,,,, ::) but maroon,,,, ;) it should look like brandywine house of color auto paint sometimes it's darker or lighter,,doesn't matter but a kick to the original color,,,,, :o but it would look great with any color tiburon frame,,,,,,, ;D
Oh yeah!! I'm in for 2 sets of the new style. Is the anodizing like paint where they can mix up any color imaginable?
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on November 11, 2019, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: SearedTuna on November 11, 2019, 06:58:15 AM
Hello Tom,
I just ordered 2 YTS topless 4/0 frame/spool kits in silver from Tiburon.
I also have all ss inards for them. Will a double dog Pro Challenger bridge work with your side plates?
V/r,
Jay
Hello Jay,
I don't see why not, my plates are based on stock plates. I believe the PC parts are as well, maybe Sal or Alan C can chime in?
Tom
I would like to get 2 sets of the new style in silver. I am doing two 4/0 YTS reels using the T4NK topless frame and spool kit
I believe you have my email already Tom, and I am still wanting to purchase two of the US Senator parts I emailed you about.
Thank you
V/r,
Jay
The next batch of plates are off the machines and going to the Polisher/Plater this week. I'm at their mercy as far as a completion date.
Ho,Ho,Ho!
Santa brought more plates!
Now in stock 113H, New Style, Plate kits in Purple, Ice Blue and Red.
https://www.cortezconversions.com/product-page/penn-113h-4-0-aluminum-side-plates-new-style
Those are gorgeous Tom!! :o
Great news Tom !!
Diggin the purple, again...
Andy
They just keep getting prettier every time.
Nice color choices, Tom!
Best,
Dom
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 21, 2019, 12:38:16 PM
Diggin the purple, again...
Andy
X2!
Purple and black look amazing!
Sal
Amazing depth to those colors Tom! 8)
Thanks Everyone,
I pay a premium to the polisher and anodizer now, I think that's why these plates are looking better!
I think the toughest Penn design I own is 2 Cortez Conversion plates on a T4N frame/spool(Tiburon) in 113H size, with stainless steel guts and a Motive Fab titainum handle with Allens 3/0 delrin power knob.
I know, with the label placement, but looks are 2ndary at best for me.
Very cool,,,,,,,, 8)
I got a set of purple ones yesterday. They are even engraved with the brand, reel model, & size on the inside of the left plate. These are the best yet. Rudy
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 21, 2019, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: steelhead_killer on December 21, 2019, 12:38:16 PM
Diggin the purple, again...
Andy
X2!
Purple and black look amazing!
Sal
Hey Sal, do you have any pics of the purple plates with a black frame ?
Cool
No cool, I built a couple but can't find a pic. Some of the reels I assemble don't hang around for long.
I might have some acrylic blanks for a custom handle, those would look nice as well with it., but the handle would need to be made and that takes a while.
This should help you though:
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=27423.msg316984#msg316984
Sal
Here's purple plates on a black frame, it's Bryan's Newell plates but pretty close
Nice Steve, if I remember correctly you should have a nice custom handle that might look sharp on that reel, but I might be wrong.
Sal
Just noticed all colors of 113h side plate kits are back in stock. My patience paid off. Thanks for making these Tom !! You knowI'll be back for more.
Thanks to Randy Pauly too for the t4wex kit
-Ted
T4WEX, 100# braid, that deep hole we couldn't get to the bottom to last year?
I bet there's a monster down there, whada you say we find out in a couple weeks?
The Man
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 18, 2016, 01:23:03 AMPics of my son's old school classic with Ted's awesome bars holding together Tom's awesome blue Cortez side plates.
Are these the "old" or "new" style plates?
(https://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16290.0;attach=21076;image)
New style
Quote from: Gfish on December 24, 2019, 10:27:38 PM
I think the toughest Penn design I own is 2 Cortez Conversion plates on a T4N frame/spool(Tiburon) in 113H size, with stainless steel guts and a Motive Fab titainum handle with Allens 3/0 delrin power knob.
I know, with the label placement, but looks are 2ndary at best for me.
That is one elegant beast, G!
Quote from: Maxed Out on February 19, 2020, 12:06:23 AM
Just noticed all colors of 113h side plate kits are back in stock. My patience paid off. Thanks for making these Tom !! You knowI'll be back for more.
Thanks to Randy Pauly too for the t4wex kit
-Ted
Ted that is a clean looking setup. Looks like every part came out of the same factory with extremely high QA/QC
That looks really sweat Ted, cheers Don.
Just scored two sets of purple side plates to complete the Tib frames I bought two years ago, better late then never! Thanks Tom!!
PS, if I wanted to get these engraved can anyone recommend a company?
If you engrave them it will cut through the anodizing and there will be a quick spot that will corrode. Engraving has to be done before anodizing. Printing & decals can be done after anodizing. Rudy
Plan is to clear coat the engraved areas, only small outline of a fish. Different material but I have a couple rifle bolts I had fluted years ago and kept the steel raw, I kept on top of it and they still look fresh.
Being exposed to saltwater is a whole different ball game. It will eventually get under the anodizing.