Since I have had a few cases of the Sal's handle style handles bending under heavy load, I wanted to offer a heavy duty version of that design. There just wasn't much I could do with the design to strengthen it without losing the the original design theme. So instead I went with a stronger material. In this case, its grade 5 titanium. Titanium is significantly stronger than the 316 stainless used in my other handles, its completely impervious to salt water corrosion, and is also very springy. It tends to return to its original shape if it does flex. Its also light. Very light. The stainless version of the 113H handle weighs 32 grams, while the titanium weighs just 18 grams.
But there is a downside. Titanium is expensive. So these handles will have to be priced higher than the stainless versions.
The Sal's handle will be $24 each for all of the following fitments: 112H/jigmaster long version, 113H, Newell 200-600, and Penn Baja special/torque 200-300/etc.
The counterbalanced handle will also be available for $34 each for all of the following fitments: 113H, Newell 200-600, and Penn Baja special/torque 200-300/etc.
The long version of the 112H/jigmaster handle is the same length as the 113H handle. I will consider offering any other sizes and designs if there is a demand for it. The Baja special is a new fitment, and I will be adding that as an option to all of my current designs.
If youre interested in purchasing any of these, just reply here with what you want. I have material, but so far Ive only had a few samples cut.
I'd like 3 of Sal's handles for newells please. Those look incredible. Thanks
I'd like
(2) Sals version one for 113h and one for jigmaster.
(1) counterbalanced for 113h
Quote from: nelz on July 13, 2016, 04:17:47 AM
Can you post a photo of the counterbalanced handle?
It will look the same as the #4 handle here. (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0) I dont have any of the titanium ones at the moment to take a picture of, but its that design. The titanium is a little darker than the stainless after running through the tumblers, but can be hand polished to a high luster.
The pic is not great but here you go:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160713_053402.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160713_053402.jpg.html)
Both titanium on the left.
These are amazing!
Sal
I'll take one Sal's handle for a 113H.
Hi what do you think for ETA on these?
Adam, if you're making Sal's handles for the larger reels as well, put me down for a set from the 112H to the 16/0.
Thanks!
Sal
A Flex and spring back is very interesting and may just be the ticket. Sounds great.
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 13, 2016, 10:05:47 PM
Adam, if you're making Sal's handles for the larger reels as well, put me down for a set from the 112H to the 16/0.
Thanks!
Sal
Im going to start with the 1/8" thick parts.
I should have some of these ready in a week or two. Ill send out invoices when I have them ready to ship.
Quote from: Three se7ens on July 14, 2016, 02:36:51 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 13, 2016, 10:05:47 PM
Adam, if you're making Sal's handles for the larger reels as well, put me down for a set from the 112H to the 16/0.
Thanks!
Sal
Im going to start with the 1/8" thick parts.
I should have some of these ready in a week or two. Ill send out invoices when I have them ready to ship.
Cool, thanks!
Here you go guys(and gals).
The blue 113H has Adam's original arm and the silver 113H has the new titanium arm. Both are "Sals" style handle arms and stars from Adam. Knobs from Alan C.
I musta been lucky to get one of Adam's first titanium versions. :D I doubt I'll be bending the titanium arm, unless I drive my truck over it. ;D
Ted
They look good.
Those are sick looking!... Nice job Ted!
Adam,
I need six Sal's handles for 113H. Thanks!
John
Quick questions, if I may: Will the titanium counterbalanced handles be reasonably easy to polish by hand? Also, will they be compatible with Striper Lou's incredible acrylic knobs (when they become available)?
Thanks! :)
~A~
What is the center to center distance on Sal's handles for the Jig Masters?
Center of handle hole to center of sleeve hole.
Ted,
Do you do anything to just 100% or do you have to do the full 120%? Them there reels are bad to the bone!
Dom
Adam, please put me down for one each of the three styles. I'm hoping the larger ones will happen as well.
Thanks!
guys you must stop doing this great parts, I will need to start selling a kidney or an eye to fund everything.
well maybe just service more reels, but my town is too small not many repairs to get all the fancy parts.
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on July 14, 2016, 06:46:30 PM
What is the center to center distance on Sal's handles for the Jig Masters?
Center of handle hole to center of sleeve hole.
The long version of the jigmaster, the 113H, the Baja/torque 200-300, and Newell versions are all 3" center to center for Sal's handles. The standard jigmaster version in stainless is 2.5" center to center. I can offer that in titanium as well(if there is interest), but Ill have to get a quote on that before I set a price.
Aiala, the titanium should polish up to a brilliant luster with a similar amount of work as the stainless would require. I dont know for sure though, so Ill give it a shot this weekend, and let you know. Ill see what hole size Lou uses for his magnificent acrylic knobs, but I can certainly accommodate it.
Sal, just to be clear, I am NOT offering the offset handles in titanium. For all practical purposes, it cannot be formed. It just springs back when you try to bend it. The Sal's handles and balanced handles are first up. If there is interest, Ill offer my curved handle, and I have another design Ive been working on that's a possibly candidate as well.
Got it! Thanks Adam.
Aiala, I would show you a polished handle, but I'm starting to like mine as they are, sorry.
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 15, 2016, 01:45:31 AM
Got it! Thanks Adam.
Aiala, I would show you a polished handle, but I'm starting to like mine as they are, sorry.
Exactly, same here !! :) :)
Whats the benefit of a counter-balanced handle?
Adam... I would like a counterbalanced 113H titanium when available.
thanks
steve
Quote from: pjstevko on July 21, 2016, 04:24:57 PM
Whats the benefit of a counter-balanced handle?
Mostly looks. On the old knucklebusters it was important to balance the weight of the knob, but nowadays I think it's mostly for looks.
Sid
Quote from: sdlehr on July 21, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on July 21, 2016, 04:24:57 PM
Whats the benefit of a counter-balanced handle?
Mostly looks. On the old knucklebusters it was important to balance the weight of the knob, but nowadays I think it's mostly for looks.
Sid
Thanks for the explanation....
Quote from: nelz on July 21, 2016, 08:46:44 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on July 21, 2016, 04:24:57 PM
Whats the benefit of a counter-balanced handle?
It also helps when casting, prevents the handle from spinning during the cast.
It will also help retrieve line with better smoothness while cranking, to me anyway...you'll be the judge with yours.
What size is the knob hole? Do you know if Lou's acrylic knobs will fit on these handles????
Quote from: pjstevko on July 27, 2016, 05:30:51 PM
What size is the knob hole? Do you know if Lou's acrylic knobs will fit on these handles????
All of my handles are cut with the knob hold undersize, and I drill it to size after I get an order. I offer 3 sizes that accommodate most everything on the market: 3/16", 6mm, and 5/16". I can also do custom sizes as necessary.
Lou's knobs require a 3/16" hole, as do the Pro Challenger knobs sold by Alan C. Alan Tani uses 3/16" or 5/16" for his Kolekar knobs, and many universal knobs require a 6mm hole.
I have the first batch of titanium arms back from the cutter. I couldnt fit everything I wanted on the sheet I had, so here are the counts for this batch:
113H balanced handle - 4
112H Sal's handle - 4
Newell Sal's handle - 8
Ill send out invoices in the next day or two. The 113H Sal's handle will have to wait until I get back from my trip, so it may be towards the end of august before those are ready.
Adam, I want others to get theirs first, but if no one speaks up, one each for me please.
Thanks!
I'd like one for the 112 if there's still one available. I have a sweet narrowed 112 that would be even sweeter with some titanium bling. If you could combine it with the 3 sal's for the newells that would be great. Thanks, Sheridan
I'd like a Sal's for a 501 Jigmaster drilled out for that beautiful black/blue/purple knob I got from Lou!!!!
Send paypal request to pikappetapi022@hotmail.com
Thanks
PJ
Quote from: pjstevko on July 30, 2016, 04:15:46 PM
I'd like a Sal's for a 501 Jigmaster drilled out for that beautiful black/blue/purple knob I got from Lou!!!!
Send paypal request to pikappetapi022@hotmail.com
Thanks
PJ
I know you just got back from vacation and are probably busy trying to get adjusted back to normal life but i was just curious...
Are there handles still available???
Short answer is yes. I have some cut, but didnt manage to get any of the 113H ones with this last batch. Im waiting on more material for those, but in the mean time, Ill go through this thread and start filling what orders I can. Ill send out invoices through paypal when they are ready to ship.
Quote from: Three se7ens on August 12, 2016, 07:59:44 PM
Short answer is yes. I have some cut, but didnt manage to get any of the 113H ones with this last batch. Im waiting on more material for those, but in the mean time, Ill go through this thread and start filling what orders I can. Ill send out invoices through paypal when they are ready to ship.
Thanks for updating this thread.....
Whenever you get the material i'd love to get one for my jigmaster
Bula Adam,
If they are not all spoken for yet, I'd like to have a 112h Sal and a 113h balanced.
..and of course a few for the 114/115 when ready ;)
Hi Adam, looks like production is tight so I will modify my order to two Sal's 113H blades for now. I should have figured out hole size by then and will advise.
thanks for doing this!
John
Quote from: thorhammer on August 22, 2016, 05:14:36 PM
Hi Adam, looks like production is tight so I will modify my order to two Sal's 113H blades for now. I should have figured out hole size by then and will advise.
thanks for doing this!
John
If you only want two, thats ok. But since none of the 113H versions of Sal's handle were cut from this batch, I will have plenty cut with the next batch for everyone.
Im sending out PM's tonight for the orders I can fill from this batch, which looks like it covers everything but the Sal's handle for the 113H.
All I have left from this batch(after filling the requests in this thread) are a few Sal's handles for Newell reels.
sounds good, thanks!
John
Received my new handle arm today and my first impression is VERY NICE. And very light. Will be testing this weekend and get back to and hope I hook a biggun.
The new handle got tested in heavy fights today with AJs and big red snappers. The handle performed perfectly and no deformation at all. These are winners guys.
Good to hear buddy, those are light as a feather. I need to place an order, but waiting for Adam to let me know when the material gets in.
Sal
I have 2 sheets of titanium on the way, and Ill put in an order for more handles as soon as I get the material. I plan on cutting more of the Sal's handles for the jigmaster and 113H, balanced handles for the jigmaster and 113H. Any other requests?
Adam, I personally have a bunch of counterbalanced handles, but I'm in need of the Sal's handles. I know I could easily make some from the counterbalanced ones, but would bother me destroying your masterpiece :).
I will need some for the Jigmasters and 113h, hopefully you'll move up to the larger sizes soon.
I know the 113h are plenty strong, but as stated earlier, I wouldn't mind if the 113h would be of the same thickness as the larger ones.
Sal
Adam,
I need to bump my order from one Sal's Handle to two.
Thanks,
Patrick
I just got another batch of titanium handles from the cutter a few days ago, and am working on getting them ready to be shipped out. Ill start with the 113H requests from the last batch and go from there. Ill be sending out invoices as parts are ready to ship.
Once I get caught up on orders, Ill look into the larger reels, like the 114H/115 and the 10/0+.
Compadre Do you have any Sal style for the Baja Special?
Quote from: Three se7ens on July 13, 2016, 03:30:23 AM
Since I have had a few cases of the Sal's handle style handles bending under heavy load, I wanted to offer a heavy duty version of that design. There just wasn't much I could do with the design to strengthen it without losing the the original design theme. So instead I went with a stronger material. In this case, its grade 5 titanium. Titanium is significantly stronger than the 316 stainless used in my other handles, its completely impervious to salt water corrosion, and is also very springy. It tends to return to its original shape if it does flex. Its also light. Very light. The stainless version of the 113H handle weighs 32 grams, while the titanium weighs just 18 grams.
But there is a downside. Titanium is expensive. So these handles will have to be priced higher than the stainless versions.
The Sal's handle will be $24 each for all of the following fitments: 112H/jigmaster long version, 113H, Newell 200-600, and Penn Baja special/torque 200-300/etc.
The counterbalanced handle will also be available for $34 each for all of the following fitments: 113H, Newell 200-600, and Penn Baja special/torque 200-300/etc.
The long version of the 112H/jigmaster handle is the same length as the 113H handle. I will consider offering any other sizes and designs if there is a demand for it. The Baja special is a new fitment, and I will be adding that as an option to all of my current designs.
If youre interested in purchasing any of these, just reply here with what you want. I have material, but so far Ive only had a few samples cut.
Do you have any stock for the titanium version Sal's handle for Newell ?
I have a number of Newell reels that I would like to test out the fit and finish.
I also have an older Pro Gear 454 / YTS that could also use a new handle.
Do you know if the 113 handle bar will fit ?
Please let me know what is the total including postage to CA, 90292.
Thank you !
Benjamin
If you still have a Sal's handle for a Jigmaster I would like to purchase one. I plan on using a Pro-Challenger Knob on this.
I also need 2 SS Sal's Drag Stars for a Jigmaster, 1 with coarse threads and one with fine threads.
Thank you.
I'm gonna need two Sal's stars for a 113H with my two handle arms as well.
Thanks,
Patrick
I am looking for a counter-balanced titanium handle for my Shimano Ocea Jigger 2000. I would be willing to settle for one, even without the shaft cut-out.
I have a few of these titanium handles still in stock:
Sal's handle
(6) for the Jigmaster/112H/etc
(6) for the 113H
(1) for Newell 200-600
Balanced handle
(4) for the Jigmaster/112H/etc
PM me to place an order. Please include reel fitment, quantity, and hole size for the knob. Also include your email for paypal so I can send you an invoice.
PM sent
PM sent
Quote from: BL90292 on October 23, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
Do you have any stock for the titanium version Sal's handle for Newell ?
I have a number of Newell reels that I would like to test out the fit and finish.
I also have an older Pro Gear 454 / YTS that could also use a new handle.
Do you know if the 113 handle bar will fit ?
Please let me know what is the total including postage to CA, 90292.
Thank you !
Benjamin
Hi Benjamin,
Yes, the 113H handle arm will fit the ProGear 454/YTS. It will also fit the 545, 541, 440 and the 441.
The jigmaster handle are will fit the ProGear 251 and 255 as well.
Bryan
Pm sent
Do you have any updates on the 115l handles?
Quote from: Gulfshoresangler on February 09, 2017, 05:00:57 AM
Do you have any updates on the 115l handles?
I need to get some material ordered. Around the end of this month they should be available.
Hi,
Interested in an arm and also a star for my newell 322/332. Please message me when available.
Thanks!
Quote from: mrwilson99 on March 07, 2017, 12:05:32 AM
Hi,
Interested in an arm and also a star for my newell 322/332. Please message me when available.
Thanks!
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0
Take a look at that, and decide what you want. Send me a PM with the following info and your email address, and I will send you an invoice through paypal.
drag stars - style, size and thickness, and what reel its for
handles - stainless or titanium, style, what reel its for, and hole size for the knob.
I currently only offer the Sal's handle and Balanced handle in titanium. Everything else is marine grade 316 stainless.
Thanks, I will get all information and report back!
Quote from: Three se7ens on March 07, 2017, 04:45:09 AM
Quote from: mrwilson99 on March 07, 2017, 12:05:32 AM
Hi,
Interested in an arm and also a star for my newell 322/332. Please message me when available.
Thanks!
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0
Take a look at that, and decide what you want. Send me a PM with the following info and your email address, and I will send you an invoice through paypal.
drag stars - style, size and thickness, and what reel its for
handles - stainless or titanium, style, what reel its for, and hole size for the knob.
I currently only offer the Sal's handle and Balanced handle in titanium. Everything else is marine grade 316 stainless.
If you have a titanium arm for a 115l I will take that with that insert kit.
Just got some blanks back from the cutter for the 114H/115 and 116+ Sal's handles in titanium. These will be available this weekend.
Very cool, I'm going to need a couple of those.
Thanks Adam!
Sal
Here are the 3 sizes of the "Sal's handles" in titanium. The Jigmaster and 113H versions are the same length are 1/8" thick. The 114H/115 and 116+ versions are both 0.160" thick, and the 116+ version is a bit bigger than the 114H/115 version. In the picture below, Im showing a 113H on the left, 114H/115 in the middle, and 116+ on the right.
All are made from 6al-4v titanium. It has 3 times the yield strength, and 5 times the bending resistance of 316 stainless. It is very springy, and tends to return to its shape well when bent. All in all, its a very tough and resiliant material, and is completely impervious to saltwater corrosion.
Pricing on the Sal's handles are as follows:
Jigmaster - $24
113H - $24
114H/115 - $27
116+ - $29
I will take 2 113H handle arms and a medium Sal's star.
I will PM my PP and address.
Quote from: Three se7ens on July 13, 2016, 03:30:23 AM
The Sal's handle will be $24 each for all of the following fitments: 112H/jigmaster long version, 113H, Newell 200-600, and Penn Baja special/torque 200-300/etc.
Adam, since you are making handles for the Baja Special, how hard would be to made a handle for the fathom 40LD/ torque 40LD reels on Sal's design Ti?
I have a nice AT knob and debating on looking for a handle blank for the fathom 40LD2 or just take the stock knob out and put the AT knob, I would like to get a handle blank and keep the stock handle as spare
Hello Adam, I could use a few Ti handles and and stars for Newells if you have any. Thanks Sheridan
I would like a jigmaster handle please.
1 each Jigmaster/112H
1 each 113H
Sal styled with Newell style star's
How do I order parts from Motive Fabrication/ three se7ens? There is webpage on his profile page here but it is dead end. Thanks.
Go to the bottom edge of one of his postings & it will take you to his site. Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on August 20, 2018, 03:05:23 AM
Go to the bottom edge of one of his postings & it will take you to his site. Rudy
There is a link beneath his name that takes you to motivefab.com which seems like abandoned site and link at the bottom edge of his posts takes you to his area/posting on this website which has no ordering info
Quote from: scharebear on August 20, 2018, 02:37:47 AM
How do I order parts from Motive Fabrication/ three se7ens? There is webpage on his profile page here but it is dead end. Thanks.
the site is not up. if you want to order parts, send Adam a message, and he will reply. he does not stock everything he makes at all times, and you may have to wait for some items, but they are top quality and worth the wait. i myself would like some more of his drag stars, especially the titanium ones.
Top notch parts, I could use a few drag stars for Newells too.
I sent Adam a PM for my Handle Arm
Mike
Hi Adam,
Do you have any titanium counterbalance handles and titanium stars for Newells in stock?
Quote from: Frank on October 10, 2018, 10:38:31 PM
Hi Adam,
Do you have any titanium counterbalance handles and titanium stars for Newells in stock?
No titanium stars or handles are on hand at the moment. Ill let you know when I have some available.
Great! Thanks so much.
Any 500/501 Sal's titanium fine thread stars and handles in stock?
Are any handles and or stars available? Jigmaster, Squidder, 113H, 12/0?
He hasn't been answering any of his pm's or emails. Rudy