this is from bob lanham......
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Haven't seen it posted lately so here are the color codes for Penn reels with the original handle: amber = 30-40's, red = 50's, green = 60's, white = 70's, black = 80's and rubber 90's>. I've got two Penn #209's one amber and the other rubber and they are exactly the same despite being 60+ years apart. Fun to catch salmon with a reel older than me IMO. Bob
somebody didn't like that answer.
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fishing-reels/238120-dating-penn-reel-handle-color.html
Quote from: mchawk;1826046Posted on another board about the handle colors and age of the reel
"I know where you saw that list, and for whatever it's worth, it has very little to do with anything factual at all. I've been in the business of working on Penn conventional reels since the 1960's, and have probably done over 20,000 of them so far. My New Old Stock handles I have right now consist of perhaps 150 different colors and shapes. Anyone that says that he can tell what year a Penn was made by looking at it in any fashion is simply misguided. There are clues as far as side plate colors, lettering fonts on them, and subtle changes in specific part variances,etc., but without an accompanying sales receipt it is just not possible."
Chef Jim
Chef Jim's Penn Reels
Hi all.
I have a Penn Peerless o/h that my father-in-law bought in the 50's which has a green handle, and my 70's model 4/0 Senator 113H [that I'm about to contact Alan about] has a timber handle - original item.
theoatteejae.
We were kids in the late 60's, Dad got us rods with Penn 285's, since there were three of us and we were all a year apart in age, EVERYTHING was color coded, I was green or blue, Wayne was red, and randy was yellow. Dad got one reel with green, one with red and one with yellow, I'm assuming all three at the same store at the same time........my point being maybe they just threw different colors on as they felt like....
I have replaced so many Handles on Penn reels with whatever was newer & Shinier in my box of parts that I cant count them.....
All Diff colors...
So if you see any of mine out there (almost all sold or donated etc) Be aware!!!!!
;D
Quote from: alantani on December 07, 2008, 04:38:06 PM
this is from bob lanham......
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Haven't seen it posted lately so here are the color codes for Penn reels with the original handle: amber = 30-40's, red = 50's, green = 60's, white = 70's, black = 80's and rubber 90's>. I've got two Penn #209's one amber and the other rubber and they are exactly the same despite being 60+ years apart. Fun to catch salmon with a reel older than me IMO. Bob
Hmmmmm, so this list basically says this person has a 209 with an amber handle that dates it to the 1930's or 1940's ??? That would be a one of a kind 209 seeing as the 209's were first made in the early 1950's. nob color has nothing to do with dating a penn reel. The shape of the nob is more of a dating tool than any nob color. Any penn handle manufactured prior to 1950 will not have a part number stamped on it, and most of those had a nob that was more pointed, kinda shaped like a football. The 109 which came out in 1945 had at least 6 different colors thru 1949.......Also, this so called list of colors seems to be lacking about 35 other colors that penn produced. I currently have over 250 penns and I can't even begin to count or list all the different colors.
Quote from: Max Doubt on February 17, 2012, 12:20:19 AM
.......... I currently have over 250 penns and I can't even begin to count or list all the different colors.
Aw, come on Ted. Inquiring minds want to know! ;D
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Quote from: Max Doubt on February 17, 2012, 12:20:19 AM
.......... I currently have over 250 penns and I can't even begin to count or list all the different colors.
Aw, come on Ted. Inquiring minds want to know! ;D
HAHAHAHA.......Maybe the guy who color dated the reels by handle was actually partially color blind and didn't know it. If you want a different color, just get out your multi colored marks-a-lots and go to town....Anyone can do it !!!
I agree with Ted about the handle is more of a tell tale than the color. The football shaped ones are usually before 1950 (non-numbered parts era)
Ted, Did you say 250 Penn reels... you're my hero, seriously! I thought I had a pretty sick collection with 110 to 120 Penn reels. I gotta get crackin' on my collection I see! ;)
Would love to see some sweet Senator photos when ya get around to it.
Thanks
Dom
Quote from: broadway on February 17, 2012, 02:20:28 AM
I agree with Ted about the handle is more of a tell tale than the color. The football shaped ones are usually before 1950 (non-numbered parts era)
Ted, Did you say 250 Penn reels... you're my hero, seriously! I thought I had a pretty sick collection with 110 to 120 Penn reels. I gotta get crackin' on my collection I see! ;)
Would love to see some sweet Senator photos when ya get around to it.
Thanks
Dom
Here are a few......How bout a red anniversary 113H with the solid chrome spacer bars and red aluminum spool. There were not very many of these ever produced. Super hard to find in unused/mint condition. I sold one to a collector friend for $235.00 and he was very happy to obtain it.
2nd is a 14/0 senator absolutely mint from the 70's pictured with a standard penn reel for size comparison(note the early 50's style nob on the smaller penn pictured with the 14/0).....3rd is an all green #9 only produced in 1957, and of course in mint condition.(sorry about the little bit blurry picture, I think my camera had a few too many beers that night)
Here is another shot of the all green #9 when my camera hadn't been drinkin' too much. Also a much better shot of the exact style of handle that came on these 1957 light duty penns.......Very tough to find all original penns in mint condition that are so old they qualify for social security.
Ted,
Beauties!!! I agree those anniversary penn 113hl and 114hl are tough to get the paws on now a days. I, fortunately was able to find one of each ;)
I love how heavy those monster senators were... I have a 12/0 and 14/0 spooled with line as thick as clothes line :o from the 50's. It's like picking up an anvil when they're spooled up!
Thanks for sharing some sweet reels,
Dom
Ted, it's ok to give some information, buy don't overdo it ;).
You're creating a lot of competation for us. ;D ;D ;D
It's a hard act to follow. ;D
I'm not even worthy of trying to follow. :-\
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 17, 2012, 12:48:32 PM
Ted, it's ok to give some information, buy don't overdo it ;).
You're creating a lot of competation for us. ;D ;D ;D
You're right Sal.......Thanks for the heads up......Time to retreat to "lurker mode"
Ted, I was only joking ;D. Keep dishing out your knowledge, I'm sure we will all benefit by it. Later buddy, Sal
If you have arrived at this thread through a link posted by "Ron" on fishing talks forum, the info he posted is wrong as usual. Clearly he did not read this whole thread. When i pointed out that he posted incorrect info they (or he) deleted my post and banned my account
https://www.fishingtalks.com/the-color-of-knobs-on-penn-handles-78056.html (https://www.fishingtalks.com/the-color-of-knobs-on-penn-handles-78056.html)
....and that's why i love, and follow this site! Always a lot of good people to answer questions, and no judgments! Kind of refreshing in this day and age, that I can come here for help and not feel too stupid ;D
....and I agree, that was bad info!!!
Brett
Man, that was a rookie mistake; wasn't it?
-steve
i had never heard of fishing talks before. what's the place all about? :-\
Quote from: alantani on November 21, 2018, 07:58:16 PM
i had never heard of fishing talks before. what's the place all about? :-\
Its not even worth talking about. A small, low traffic site where some of the worst misinformation and bad advice gets spread around. The one guy "Ron" posts in literally every thread, and is often very misinformed himself. He didnt like being told he gives bad advice so he banned me or had admins ban me.
yeah, didn't see much there. i was just curious. thanks!
Oh well, some people dont want to learn I guess.
Their loss Chris!
Brett
Quote from: 1badf350 on November 21, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: alantani on November 21, 2018, 07:58:16 PM
i had never heard of fishing talks before. what's the place all about? :-\
Its not even worth talking about. A small, low traffic site where some of the worst misinformation and bad advice gets spread around. The one guy "Ron" posts in literally every thread, and is often very misinformed himself. He didnt like being told he gives bad advice so he banned me or had admins ban me.
Don't fret, Chris, I've been thrown off of better sites myself! :) I got thrown off the Antique Penn Facebook page for complaining to the moderator about a post that was at the least in poor taste, at most gay-bashing. I got no response and was thrown out of the group. I told the moderator I would be embarrassed to have a post like that on a forum I moderated. I guess he didn't agree.
Sid it makes me appreciate sites like this.
The 12 year old rule is a good one....others should adopt it. Bill
some places might just be too far gone........
i have been trying to help some guys out on another site, but one of the moderators contacted me and told me that i was not allowed to post links for solutions that directed people here. oh, and if i did so again, i would be suspended. now, i was given the option of becoming a "sponsor" and then i could post links. i was actually curious, so i contacted them to see what would be involved to become a sponsor and how much it would cost. if it's not too much money, i might actually do that.
now before you guys start in and say, well, "i should be charging them...", i do understand the need for the rule. they are trying to make money off of their website. they did ask for the address for this website, however. it's going to blow them away when they see how far you can go with a little cooperation. ;D