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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn University => Topic started by: Bill B on February 23, 2017, 04:37:09 AM

Title: Bring Them Back
Post by: Bill B on February 23, 2017, 04:37:09 AM
I know it's not financially feasible for Penn to bring back to market older models, but I would like to hear from the masses, what reel would you like Penn to bring back to market?   I will start this off:
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Post by: Keta on February 23, 2017, 04:49:19 AM
A modern 349 size 3.5:1 reel would be nice.
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Post by: Tightlines667 on February 23, 2017, 04:57:57 AM
-16/0

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Post by: Shark Hunter on February 23, 2017, 05:11:18 AM
I want the Bigfoot 20/0! ;D
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Post by: Alto Mare on February 23, 2017, 11:09:11 AM
A narrowed  II speed star drag 9/0, designed by Doc (Robert Janssen). Equipped with aluminum plates frame and spool.

Don't hold your breath on this one, if it did happen, they wouldn't know what to do with the rest in the same category.

Sal

Hoops, sorry. 9/0's are still manufactured by Penn...wrong thread.
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Decker on February 23, 2017, 01:35:52 PM
Squidder 146, with a 4:1 gear ratio.  

Forgot to add, Mag 970.  Either one of these two would do.
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Post by: Penn on February 23, 2017, 01:38:06 PM
Good topic, care if I join?    ;D

110 Senator

tony
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Post by: sharkman on February 23, 2017, 01:52:05 PM
1/0
16/0
349
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Post by: Aiala on February 23, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
The original greenie spinning reels.   :)

~A~
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Post by: Decker on February 23, 2017, 02:23:14 PM
Quote from: Aiala on February 23, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
The original greenie spinning reels.   :)

~A~

Of everything mentioned so far, I think the greenie reels would be the most popular.   Would bring a sense of fun and history.  All the new spinning reels are styled like computers. 
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Post by: Reel 224 on February 23, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
I would like to see the 704 or 711 come back.

Joe
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Post by: mo65 on February 23, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
   Oh boy, there are so many classics, how do ya choose? I guess I'll always wonder why Penn ditched the Mag 10 and 210 yet still make the 309 and 209. The 309 and 209 are good...but the Mag 10 and 210 are great! Was it the cost of ball bearings? If so ditch 'em...the bushing bearings work just as well in these reels.  And less maintenance. The Mag 10 and 210 are the perfect marriage of modern speed/power and classic design simplicity. 8)
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: mikeysm on February 23, 2017, 07:10:24 PM
iI would like to see the return of the 349h. Tom was working on side plates and frame. At this point it hasn't become reaiity.

Mike
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: thorhammer on February 23, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
Magpowers with frames. They were braid ready before braid was born. And greenies.  Levelmatics wouldn't hurt either 😎
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Post by: FatTuna on February 23, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
Jigmaster 506HS
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Post by: Maxed Out on February 23, 2017, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: Penn on February 23, 2017, 01:38:06 PM
Good topic, care if I join?    ;D

110 Senator

tony

Lol, you can join in anytime Tony, especially with a request like that !!

 I cast vote #2 for a 110 senator
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Bill B on February 24, 2017, 06:00:12 AM
Tony....how about a new category for the Penn line up...."Classics" or "Old School" or "Limited Run".. might be catchy...Bill
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Post by: Robert Janssen on February 24, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 23, 2017, 11:09:11 AM
A narrowed  II speed star drag 9/0, designed by Doc (Robert Janssen). Equipped with aluminum plates frame and spool.

Don't hold your breath on this one, if it did happen, they wouldn't know what to do with the rest in the same category.

Sal

Hoops, sorry. 9/0's are still manufactured by Penn...wrong thread.

Haha, thanks for that! Sure enough, I will get back to that project one of these days. You will be the first to know.
Doc.

.
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Calusa on February 24, 2017, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Aiala on February 23, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
The original greenie spinning reels.   :)

~A~

This, and the entire Z-Series.

For such simple reels with so few parts and minimal assembly time why wouldn't it be economically feasible to produce them?
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Alto Mare on February 24, 2017, 08:55:18 PM
Quote from: Robert Janssen on February 24, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 23, 2017, 11:09:11 AM
A narrowed  II speed star drag 9/0, designed by Doc (Robert Janssen). Equipped with aluminum plates frame and spool.

Don't hold your breath on this one, if it did happen, they wouldn't know what to do with the rest in the same category.

Sal

Hoops, sorry. 9/0's are still manufactured by Penn...wrong thread.

Haha, thanks for that! Sure enough, I will get back to that project one of these days. You will be the first to know.
Doc.

.
Great Doc!... you know I'll be watching :)

Sal
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Post by: George6308 on May 26, 2017, 01:38:11 AM
Smaller fresh water sized 9.
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Post by: ez2cdave on September 20, 2017, 05:16:31 AM
SQUIDDER 146, 145, & 140 . . . RED Sideplates !

LEVELMATIC 910, 920, 930, 940

Tight Lines !
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Rancanfish on September 25, 2017, 11:58:55 PM
Hey Hodgeman,  welcome to AT.com!

And I agree about the 525.
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Post by: steelfish on September 26, 2017, 12:17:59 AM
the mini Baja Special   8) 8)

err , isnt this the "what would you ask penn to build" thread?

sorry  :-[ :-X
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Post by: RowdyW on September 26, 2017, 12:19:50 AM
X 2 on the language.                  Rudy
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Bryan Young on September 26, 2017, 02:16:45 AM
What cuss word?😉

Please watch your language before something further has to occur.
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Post by: mikeysm on September 26, 2017, 05:55:19 AM
Every time they bring back a reel they change it. Then it's not the same reel.

Mike
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Decker on September 26, 2017, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: mikeysm on September 26, 2017, 05:55:19 AM
Every time they bring back a reel they change it. Then it's not the same reel.

Hehe...  It's like when you hear about an old band doing a comeback tour.  Less than half the band members are the original ones.  Sure they can play their own songs, but then so can a dozen other cover bands.  ;D

[Not to knock Penn]
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Post by: Hodgeman on September 27, 2017, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on September 26, 2017, 02:16:45 AM
What cuss word?😉

Please watch your language before something further has to occur.

I'm sorry was that me? I don't even notice I do it some times. life in the military lol
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Gfish on October 13, 2017, 03:52:22 PM
A limited run of the "greenie" spinners(limited so Penn don't have'ta lose too much $), built with the same materials.
gfish
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Post by: foakes on October 13, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
I don't think any of us could afford the price tag on a "limited run" greenie.

Manufacturers make a profit when there is great demand -- and when they can meet that demand through great volume.

For "old school" spinners -- although we think they are great -- the modern angling world does not embrace them because they are not cool looking.

Just the world we live in...

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: ez2cdave on October 13, 2017, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: foakes on October 13, 2017, 04:25:05 PMFor "old school" spinners -- although we think they are great -- the modern angling world does not embrace them because they are not cool looking.

Fred

I abolutely LOVE my "old-school" reliable, durable spinners over the "modern", over-priced, plastic, Chinese crap that is being sold today !

This song pretty much "sums it up" . . .

Tight Lines !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcMkFvXW2v4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcMkFvXW2v4)
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Alto Mare on October 17, 2017, 01:37:04 AM
The Penn 707Z.
Your 706Z sells for under $200 and it is a great price, you could sell the 707Z for $300, well worth it. I can guarantee they would fly off the shelves :).

I could feel some collectors...members or guests getting panicky  ;D

Sal
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: nelz on October 17, 2017, 05:28:38 AM
I love my 712 "greenie", caught my first big fish on one when I was a young man. It was a 35lb striper from the beach. However, it is now retired and holds an honored place in my collection. The lighter & quieter modern reels with better bail springs, drags and line lay are simply a better option for actual fishing.

A re-release would be nice, but I'd rather pick up an original one in nice used condition if I wanted another.
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: George6308 on October 17, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
Green or black. Z or greenie. They will be fishing when some of the newer wiz bang wonder reels are on the way to the dumpster!!
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Post by: thorhammer on October 17, 2017, 08:37:18 PM
Hmmmm Mag 210 in 1952 peerless green. 
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: scrinch on October 17, 2017, 11:20:18 PM
Quote from: steelfishthe mini Baja Special   Cool Cool

That's the Jigmaster 99 with aluminum frame and upgraded innards? But you can make it yourself!
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: nelz on October 17, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: George6308 on October 17, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
Green or black. Z or greenie. They will be fishing when some of the newer wiz bang wonder reels are on the way to the dumpster!!

That's for sure!
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Post by: Tunanorth on October 18, 2017, 12:42:53 AM
Quote from: scrinch on October 17, 2017, 11:20:18 PM
Quote from: steelfishthe mini Baja Special   Cool Cool

That's the Jigmaster 99 with aluminum frame and upgraded innards? But you can make it yourself!




The 99/Jigmaster hybrid is known as the "Albacore Special", and first appeared circa 1965-66 at Hermosa Tackle Box, in Hermosa Beach, CA, courtesy of the legendary Jerry Morris. Over the years, various additional upgrades appeared [including Newell spools and Tib frames], but it will always be the Albacore Special.
However, the "Baby Baja" does remain as a concept in our hearts at least.
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Bill B on October 18, 2017, 01:14:55 AM
I give the Baby Baja a "Must Have" at least in my book....Bill
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Post by: Decker on October 18, 2017, 02:51:37 AM
Quote from: Bill B (Tarfu) on October 18, 2017, 01:14:55 AM
I give the Baby Baja a "Must Have" at least in my book....Bill

X2 -- It's the "just right" reel.
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Post by: wfjord on October 18, 2017, 04:05:38 AM
714, 714Z, 712, 710, 710z -- identical replicas, greenies and blackies.

Also Surfmaster 100.
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: wfjord on October 18, 2017, 04:46:49 AM
Quote from: foakes on October 13, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
I don't think any of us could afford the price tag on a "limited run" greenie.

Manufacturers make a profit when there is great demand -- and when they can meet that demand through great volume.

For "old school" spinners -- although we think they are great -- the modern angling world does not embrace them because they are not cool looking.

Just the world we live in...

Best,

Fred

You have a good point there. And I think that makes it better for folks like us if the majority of the fishing world prefers new reels. I get more enjoyment fishing my old reels, whether it be those I bought decades ago or the old ones I now find and restore. I've never truly retired a reel.
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Post by: fishgrain on October 18, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
I might add Fred that possibly the modern angling world also would like to have their own unique "generation" of tackle to relate with and create memories.

For a GenX'er, fishing as a teen in the 1990's meant using Penn, if you could afford one.

In the range of $65-85 for a 320GTi / 330 If I remember was the reel of choice for NE striper fishing. And a silver series spinner for clam snouts off the bridge.

All purchased in the tackle store local to the fishery of course. (there's a concept)  ::)

Anyway point is maybe a lot of people still see the classics as "dad's reel" etc


Jay Grob
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: thorhammer on October 18, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
Jay, that's a great point. In 25 years someone will be hoarding Slammer III crosswind blocks as "classic". And they'll also have a bunch of Stella's that can't be fixed lol.
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Benni3 on October 19, 2017, 01:32:51 AM
Marlo always asks me why do bring that old green reel way don't you take that new shiny gold one,,,,I just like the 706 :)
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Post by: Ruffy on October 26, 2017, 01:07:35 AM
I'd say just swap the current production run of Z's to a green paintjob. They look so much better in green!
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Post by: Decker on October 26, 2017, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: Ruffy on October 26, 2017, 01:07:35 AM
I'd say just swap the current production run of Z's to a green paintjob. They look so much better in green!

I agree wholeheartedly!   And why not a Philadelphia Eagles #11, Carson Wentz comemorative edition? ;D
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: kmstorm64 on July 12, 2019, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: Decker on February 23, 2017, 01:35:52 PM
Squidder 146, with a 4:1 gear ratio.  

Forgot to add, Mag 970.  Either one of these two would do.

plus 1 on that!
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: George6308 on July 12, 2019, 08:11:18 PM
Make parts for the "classic" Penns as some needed parts are unobtainium.
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Post by: oc1 on July 12, 2019, 10:29:58 PM
All excellent wishes, but all just wishful thinking too. 
-steve
Title: Re: Bring Them Back
Post by: Rivverrat on July 13, 2019, 07:03:36 PM
Keep the Torque star drag in the 25N & 15 or 12 size... Jeff