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Title: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Penn on May 19, 2017, 07:55:52 AM
https://youtu.be/qIfDKOuETPA

tony


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: foakes on May 19, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Fantastic, Tony --

Thanks!

We should all be grateful that Penn is so proactive with this superior line of proven reels.

Can't wait to have one on the bench for a pre-fish service -- and to become more familiar with this new lineup.

The initial features pointed out are very well thought out.

One question:

If the A/R is silent -- does that mean there is just an ARB Bearing?  No dogs?  That might be a concern -- but I am sure that there is an explanation that makes sense for this capable line of reels.

Bravo!!!

Best,

Fred


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: conchydong on May 19, 2017, 09:35:10 AM
That will get your juices flowing! Nice.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Penn on May 19, 2017, 09:56:31 AM
Fantastic, Tony --

Thanks!

We should all be grateful that Penn is so proactive with this superior line of proven reels.

Can't wait to have one on the bench for a pre-fish service -- and to become more familiar with this new lineup.

The initial features pointed out are very well thought out.

One question:

If the A/R is silent -- does that mean there is just an ARB Bearing?  No dogs?  That might be a concern -- but I am sure that there is an explanation that makes sense for this capable line of reels.

Bravo!!!

Best,

Fred


Hi Fred,

We will post more info and specs as we get closer to ICAST, but no ARB. 

tony


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: foakes on May 19, 2017, 10:00:45 AM
That is good -- Thanks again, Tony...

Best,

Fred


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tightlines666 on May 19, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Tony,
Thanks for sharing the sneak peak at the new product line with us here!

That reel looks good.  

I like the new quadrant/stike preset indicator, and the new shift button (hopefully its aluminum now since the plastic ones broke frequently.  More importantly the redesigned lever looks like it may solve the water/salt intrusion issues that were so common with the old design.  I am hoping the cam assembly was redesigned to be a bit larger in diameter as well, since they had a tendancy to bind following salt intrusion and storage, though I suspect it remains the same (then existing cam parts and production-related stuff remain usable on these models).  I am interested to see the newly designed dogs, and whether the drag or 2 speed mechanisms have been modified as well.  

I like what I can see so far.

John


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: reel man on May 19, 2017, 12:17:14 PM
Would like to know the gear ratios.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: alantani on May 19, 2017, 01:59:24 PM
very nice!!!!


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 19, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
very nice!!!!
 X2   VISXa?  :) :D ;D ;)


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: akfish on May 19, 2017, 06:16:33 PM
I haven't seen the schematics, but I very much doubt that these reels have anti-reverse bearings. There are ways to make mechanical dogs silent -- Okuma does it on their Makairas and the smaller Avet reels (HX and smaller) have quiet, if not silent dogs -- and I'm sure that Penn did something similar.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Hodgeman on May 19, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
what sizes will this be in?


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: MarkT on May 19, 2017, 06:28:06 PM
Equivalent thread on BD: https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/video-for-new-penn-50visx.656458/

They will come in silver as well as gold.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on May 20, 2017, 05:02:37 PM
Would like to know the gear ratios.

VISX's:
12=5.1-1/1.8-1
16=4.6-1/1.6-1
20=4.1-1/1.4-1
30=4.1-1/1.4-1
50=3.5-1/1.3-1


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: doradoben on May 20, 2017, 05:25:02 PM
Very nice!! Will the 20 have a spool about as narrow as an International ll 20T ??


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on May 20, 2017, 05:39:16 PM
Very nice!! Will the 20 have a spool about as narrow as an International ll 20T ??



I'm old enough to remember the 20T, but too old to remember the exact dimensions!
The answer is "probably", and the capacity is 365/50 mono or 750/100 braid.
Max drag 50 pounds, weight 51 ounces.



Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Nuvole on May 20, 2017, 09:29:07 PM
Any silver colour version?


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: RowdyW on May 21, 2017, 05:10:51 AM
Just back up a little & read page one. You get more information if you read the whole posting.  ;D ;D                  Rudy


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Penn on May 22, 2017, 06:00:39 AM
Any silver colour version?

They will be sold in both silver and gold.

tony


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Craigen on May 23, 2017, 07:43:11 AM
I have a 16VSX.  The new VISX drag has been described as a "pull" system for most models.  Does my 16VSX have a push or a pull drag system?


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: coastal_dan on May 30, 2017, 09:14:39 AM
So sweet, handle looks fantastic! 

Are you guys updating the single speeds as well?  How about a open top International 12 VI (standard width) with maybe a +/- 4.5:1 ratio?  Ultimate bottom bouncer reel...with dual drag you'd take on Maxel/Jigging Master.  Don't get me wrong I love the new narrow senator, but the prospect of larger drag disks and LD with an all machined aluminum plates/frame would be something else...Maybe drop in the versa-gear option and do a 6.0:1 for the White Marlin Guys...

Just me dreaming... ;D


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on May 30, 2017, 09:30:31 AM
So sweet, handle looks fantastic! 

Are you guys updating the single speeds as well?  How about a open top International 12 VI (standard width) with maybe a +/- 4.5:1 ratio?  Ultimate bottom bouncer reel...with dual drag you'd take on Maxel/Jigging Master.  Don't get me wrong I love the new narrow senator, but the prospect of larger drag disks and LD with an all machined aluminum plates/frame would be something else...Maybe drop in the versa-gear option and do a 6.0:1 for the White Marlin Guys...

Just me dreaming... ;D


Yes, there will be single-speeds too [12, 30, 50], all in the VI series [lower drag curve and with a top bar].
The 12VI will be 6.75-1 with a max drag of 15 pounds. The 12VISX will be 5.1-1-1.8-1 with a max drag of 40 pounds.


 


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Nuvole on May 30, 2017, 06:20:38 PM
So sweet, handle looks fantastic! 

Are you guys updating the single speeds as well?  How about a open top International 12 VI (standard width) with maybe a +/- 4.5:1 ratio?  Ultimate bottom bouncer reel...with dual drag you'd take on Maxel/Jigging Master.  Don't get me wrong I love the new narrow senator, but the prospect of larger drag disks and LD with an all machined aluminum plates/frame would be something else...Maybe drop in the versa-gear option and do a 6.0:1 for the White Marlin Guys...

Just me dreaming... ;D


Yes, there will be single-speeds too [12, 30, 50], all in the VI series [lower drag curve and with a top bar].
The 12VI will be 6.75-1 with a max drag of 15 pounds. The 12VISX will be 5.1-1-1.8-1 with a max drag of 40 pounds.


 

Wow.... I'm using a 16VSX max drag 28lb and its enough to break my back.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: coastal_dan on June 01, 2017, 09:16:19 AM
Thanks Steve - Guess I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for an older 16S with the 4:1 High for my needs, the 5:1 is just a little too quick.  Exciting seeing these new products, thats for sure.  Thanks Penn!


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Wicho5981 on June 28, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
Is penn introducing a new baitcaster this year ?


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on June 28, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
Is penn introducing a new baitcaster this year ?


Sorry, they will not. Besides the VI's and "lefty" Fathom 2-speeds, the rest of the new items are rods or spinning reels, though the new super high-speed Slammer III spinners [6500 and 8500 size] will be perfect for anybody who like to fish roosterfish in the surf, or many other "popper" oriented applications.
PENN's "sister" company is Abu-Garcia, but I have not checked to see what new baitcasters they may be offering this year.
Are any other board members here going to the ICAST Show in Orlando?


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on July 26, 2017, 06:23:07 AM
VISX's:
12=5.1-1/1.8-1

hi Steve! i have a custom 12vsx and my question is before sending it to Cal for a lower gear ratio; may i use the the 12visx's gears in my 12vsx?

thanks!

never mind! after watching and listening to the video again, i think i cannot use the gears because the VI's are a pull drag system compared to the V's push drag system. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

thanks again!


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on July 26, 2017, 06:27:50 AM
Sport Fishing Magazine's video on the VI generation Internationals;

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/penn-new-international-reel-icast-2017-video?src=SOC&dom=fb


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Penn on July 26, 2017, 07:13:04 AM
VISX's:
12=5.1-1/1.8-1

hi Steve! i have a custom 12vsx and my question is before sending it to Cal for a lower gear ratio; may i use the the 12visx's gears in my 12vsx?

thanks!

never mind! after watching and listening to the video again, i think i cannot use the gears because the VI's are a pull drag system compared to the V's push drag system. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

thanks again!

12VSX and 12VISX gears are completely different sizes.  Thanks for the support. 

tony


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on August 17, 2017, 08:45:12 PM
Another video featuring Mike Rice talking about the VI series Internationals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsxsm_UDOv4&t=9s


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: alantani on August 17, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
nicely done, gentlemen!


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tightlines666 on August 17, 2017, 09:47:08 PM
Finally a look inside.  That is a pretty significant set of changes there.  Looks like a lot of good changes.  That clicker looks to have been beefed up, while new AT setup, different drag/cam setup, etc.  Can't wait to see the schematics, and see that first tutorial.  In particular, I am interested in how the 130, and 80 class reels are built.

John


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Rothmar2 on August 18, 2017, 03:34:00 AM
Finally a look inside.  That is a pretty significant set of changes there.  Looks like a lot of good changes.  That clicker looks to have been beefed up, while new AT setup, different drag/cam setup, etc.  Can't wait to see the schematics, and see that first tutorial.  In particular, I am interested in how the 130, and 80 class reels are built.

John

You know John there are a few extra 1%'ers that are not mentioned in this video, which make these even a far better long term proposition. The 80 VISW I got to open up is built as solid as a battleship with the internal componentry, huge shaft/bearings. The anodising is of much better quality than the VS Series. I have pictures I intend to post ASAP. There are a couple of "BUT's" I have however. These are arguably just personal observation/opinion things, which do not detract from the overall quality of these reels.

Will try and get the pix up as soon as I get home in a few days time.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: foakes on August 18, 2017, 07:35:33 AM
This new, and well-planned Penn International product lineup featuring a full array of newly engineered reels. -- is very impressive...
________________________________________________________________________________________

This is a good, solid recipe...

You take a successful product line well proven over decades --

Keep the best of that product line's capable features --

Add into the mix a completely re-designed and re-engineered arsenal to suit big game anglers --

Incorporating some new features we had only hoped for -- and some we hadn't thought about yet --

Offer it in traditional Gold -- along with every product also offered in the more practical silver, not anodized --

Done...
________________________________________________________________________________________

It seems like the launch of a space shuttle mission would be easier and require less planning and listening -- then this major manufacturing endeavor has obviously required.

Penn has listened to the experts in the angling world -- such as many on our site and other sites, Cal Sheets, and others.

They have sorted the ideas and improvements -- keeping in mind quality, capable function, price, market competition, and durability down the road.

I am grateful to Penn and their people -- for their investment & committment to proven quality.

Thank You!

Best,

Fred


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on November 17, 2017, 09:54:11 AM
Link to a discussion at BDO with Basil, regarding line capacity of the 30VISX.
https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/30-visx.671719/


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Maxed Out on November 17, 2017, 02:56:14 PM
 What about us folks that don't do bloodydecks ?? I live in Washington state and the washington BD forum is famous for embracing the nastiest of the nasty people and all the good fishermen know that and stay away from that website. I won't click on anything BD just like lots of folks I know


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: conchydong on November 17, 2017, 04:28:36 PM
 Don't click on to the Washington forum. It's like a TV, watch the channels that you like.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Rancanfish on November 18, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
Yes, BD has some awesome folks.  They are where you find them.


Title: Re: 2018 Sneak Peak - PENN International VI
Post by: Tunanorth on November 18, 2017, 01:06:50 PM
For PNW albacore news, if you don't like BDO, the linked "Salty Dogs" site is pretty good.
 http://www.ifish.net/board/forumdisplay.php?f=28