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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Cradle Reels => Topic started by: mikeysm on July 22, 2017, 05:05:38 AM

Title: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on July 22, 2017, 05:05:38 AM
Can anyone tell me what blank to use on a Neptuna 349 cradle. Also what type of paint they used to paint the reel seat with.

Mike
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: Bill B on July 22, 2017, 08:56:10 PM
Mike Ive seen Penn Senator rods, Silaflex, mine had a Johnny Walker.....something in the 30-50 lb class....this is mainly a trolling rig....I believe there was a clear varnish for paint.....but others should be chiming in soon.....Bill
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: Swami805 on July 22, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
I think it could be bought seperately and the angler/builder could install whatever blank they liked for the tip. Silaflex,conolon truline and any blanks from that era would be appropriate. Try google images for some ideas.
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on July 23, 2017, 10:29:43 AM
I agree with the last two responses with Silaflex being most popular from what I have seen.  Many of the older plain polished aluminum Nep-Tuna framed cradles seem to have Silaflex rods or rods made of that reddish brown vintage glass. The gold colored Nep-Tuna cradles seem to have mostly a yellow colored blank similar to some Saber rods but I have no idea who made them ? Seems the early Nep-Tuna's didn't all come with rods you could use what ever you wanted then with the gold colored cradles they supplied the rods with the cradles and they had the Nep-Tuna decals on them.

There is very little information out there on any of the Nep-Tuna stuff so I am just guessing based on what I have seen. Maybe "hopefully" some one else will know more and post it !!      Hope this helped !!   John Taylor
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: Penn Chronology on July 25, 2017, 05:16:55 AM
QuoteCan anyone tell me what blank to use on a Neptuna 349 cradle. Also what type of paint they used to paint the reel seat with.

Neptuna liked the yellow Lamiglass blanks with Aftco guides. No paint used on cradles. The older ones were plain aluminum and the later models were anodized gold. But there are no rules. The best thing to do is an appropriate yellow Lamiglass rod blank with skinny aftco roller guides for the 349 mounted into a 1970's gold anodized cradle and anything that works for the earlier models. I believe Neptuna did not provide the rods for early plain aluminum cradles. The ferrules were not locking reel type for the early cradle assemblies, they were a friction type,  squeeze ferrule nut tightening onto whatever male ferrule that would fit the cradle socket.
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on July 27, 2017, 03:14:11 AM
Mine is a early one. I had to remove the ferrule because it was striped. I will have to make a new one. No parts anywhere so I will have to machine one.

Mike
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on July 27, 2017, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: mikeysm on July 27, 2017, 03:14:11 AM
Mine is a early one. I had to remove the ferrule because it was striped. I will have to make a new one. No parts anywhere so I will have to machine one.

Mike
Mike I have a bunch of different size ferrules with nuts. I will PM you my cell number call if interested.   John Taylor
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on July 27, 2017, 05:24:28 PM
Thanks John I will do that.

Mike
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on July 28, 2017, 06:52:02 PM
Mike this is what I have. You said hole in cradle was 7/8" this is the same. You will have to cut bottom that slides into cradle to length. You will also have to file the tits off ends of cross pin before you slide it in cradle walls will hold pin in. I would use JB Weld to glue it in. Let me know.   John Taylor
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on July 28, 2017, 06:55:27 PM
Part 2
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on July 28, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
Mike you didn't send me your last name in PM for shipping ?     John
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on August 01, 2017, 11:37:36 PM
Here is a picture of my cradle with the new ferrule.
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: coastal_dan on August 02, 2017, 11:46:47 AM
Looking great!
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on August 02, 2017, 04:15:45 PM
Yup looks to fit nice ! Did you glue it yet ?  John T
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: Penn Chronology on August 02, 2017, 04:17:02 PM
looks perfect to me.
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on August 02, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Not yet John looking for better epoxy.
The stuff I have is crap so I need to get a slower setting epoxy.  If anyone comes across a rod blank let me know. I have a red 349h nos ready to install that Randy sold me. Also I would like t
o find some guides .

Mike.
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on August 02, 2017, 08:06:56 PM
I will bet Randy Pauly will have an old school rod that would work for your project. Even if you had to redo it. I don't know if you saw the recent post of the rod I put into the one of a kind unknown cradle  http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=21037.30  The rod I used was an old rod with a butt and a ferrule similar to the one I sent you. I heated up the ferrule and got it off with water pump pliers then stripped old glue off down to rod blank. Then I built up rod with fiberglass tape and epoxy to fit new ferrule "like one I sent you" then I epoxied it on making sure the guides were straight with reel. Also you need to make sure !!!!! you put the nut on before glueing the ferrule.  I have included a few pictures of the cradle I did it to and a rod I have you could use to do same as I did. If you have interest in the rod I would sell it to you for $80 plus shipping that is what I paid for it. It is all Aftco old style rollers and they all work. Let me know if you can't find anything out your way if you want it and no hard feelings if you don't.

As far as glue or epoxy to fasten piece you got from me to cradle I would use "JB Weld" it works great !!   Thanks       John Taylor
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on August 02, 2017, 08:16:03 PM
If you blow up pictures you will see that it is a nice old school "reddish colored" rod blank surely from southern California and if you took your time you could turn it into a quick easy job.    John Taylor
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on August 02, 2017, 09:26:44 PM
Randy told me he is not into rods just reels. But I will ask him to keep his eyes open for me. I ordered a Conolon blank. I will see if it will work.

Mike
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on August 10, 2017, 11:43:08 PM
Here is a updated photo of my cradle 349.

Mike
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: 54bullseye on August 27, 2017, 12:01:52 AM
Mike
Any luck with the rod for the cradle yet ?     John Taylor
Title: Re: Neptuna cradle rod blank
Post by: mikeysm on August 27, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Yes I am going to use a 30-80 lb sabre tuna blank with mildrum roller guides. I received the guides yesterday so I'm ready to go. All nos parts.