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Fishing => Setting Up Your Reel to Go Fishing => Topic started by: Shark Hunter on July 23, 2017, 10:12:38 PM

Title: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 23, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
I have a member that wants me to spool his 16/0 with 200 lb solid braid and 100 lb mono on top. 1000 yards of each.
What would be the best knot for this?
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: wailua boy on July 23, 2017, 10:19:05 PM
I think the "improved" Albright knot will work, although there maybe be a better knot.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: cwillis85 on July 23, 2017, 10:38:20 PM
I have become a huge fan of the fg knot to tie on my leaders, never tried it with more than 80lb braid to 50lb mono though
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Three se7ens on July 23, 2017, 11:21:16 PM
I like the Albright knot, especially when there is a large difference in line me diameter. With 20 lb Fluorocarbon leader and 20 or 30 lb braid, I've never had one fail at the braid.

I think you may be better off with 130 lb hollow and a loop to loop or serve connection though. 130 lb hollow is the cheapest hollow and typically breaks above 160 - 180 lbs
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Swami805 on July 23, 2017, 11:54:23 PM
I use an albright too for lighter line and a bimini to an albright for heavy line. I have some 200lb hollow for making wind-ons, I'll send you some if you want to make a few. Serving it is pretty slick but you'd still need a bimini for the loop in the solid.
There's some good knots on-line too, the collins knot seems popular and looks pretty easy to tie.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: boon on July 24, 2017, 12:21:34 AM
Anything with a double in the mono is a dinosaur knot.

PR knot would be my pick here.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: akfish on July 24, 2017, 12:56:24 AM
I use the RP knot which is just an Improved Albright. I use knot typing tubes to synch it up well and add a drop of Tac Glue. That knot tied once caught two tuna over 175# back to back last spring. I was about dead. But the knot held.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 24, 2017, 03:51:36 AM
This is not my personal choice, but he is hell bent on solid braid for backing.
The 16/0 is a straight mono reel in my arsenal.
It has the capacity to do just this.
Straight 130lb would yield way over 1500 yards.
They fish in Panama City off the pier.
I have no idea how this works.
A large shark on my line is brought to shore.
There is a line winder in return for my efforts of making this reel as he wants with a stack upgrade.
This will come in handy with all my big reels.
Do I need to back the spool with anything before I start laying on the braid?
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Bill B on July 24, 2017, 05:37:06 AM
daron, the Boss recommends flex wrap (?) or similar cloth tape that sticks to it's self to prevent the braid from slipping and a little grease under the tape.... Bill
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: oc1 on July 24, 2017, 06:27:49 AM
I think 100# mono is a waste of a 16/0.  When was the last time someone need a mile of line to land a shark?  With 200# braid backing I'd consider 200# mono on top. To each, their own.  No one is likely to ever see that knot so it may not matter how it looks as long as it is bullet proof and will pass the guides. Hopefully, they're not Aftco.  Bimini to improved Albright sounds pretty good.  I'd consider duct tape on the spool.
-steve
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on July 24, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
Splice the mono into a section of hollow braid then splice the solid braid into the hollow. I usually use a superglue 'serve'.
Alternately - Splice the mono into a length of hollow braid - splice a loop into the other end. Tie a perfection loop in the solid braid. Loop to loop connection that goes through the guides easily.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: STRIPER LOU on July 24, 2017, 12:45:53 PM
 x2 on the super glue. Since I've been using it in addition, I have not had any failures.

............Lou
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: r8rs4lf on July 24, 2017, 01:11:48 PM
I use the Albright when I know the knot is far enough down the line where it won't go through the guides. This knot always seems to get caught on guides when being casted.

If it will be cast through the guides, I use the FG knot. I haven't had one fail and I think it's the thinnest/strongest knot to tie mono to braid without getting hung up on the guides.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on July 24, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
if you have the "needles" i would use a L2L on this one. 1st splice appropriate hollow to your straight braid. here's a video it's in tagalog but watching it it should be enough. also i have slightly modified it;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6PvQgZgDGM

then insert your mono to appropriate size hollow e.g. if i can force the 100 mono to a 60 hollow then i will use a 60 but that's just me.

btw i refer to http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/index.htm for the BREAKING STRAIN against the DIAMETER D(A) for the best line...

tight lines!

ps X3 on the glue but i'd use Tac Glue and here's one i recently did; (https://image.ibb.co/d3dUPk/20170724_083411.jpg)
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: thorhammer on July 24, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
Lemme know what you pick here. I was gonna go straight 130 mono on mine  but I may back with dacron anyway.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 24, 2017, 08:10:47 PM
That is exactly how I would do it John, but Everybody does things differently.
Evidently, these guys fish off the pier and someone on the water kayaks their baits way out.
They are sold on using braid, I guess its different when you are that high up off the water.
It would prevent some of the cut offs associated with being on the sand.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: thorhammer on July 24, 2017, 08:16:30 PM
 Agree. My rationale was more physical....if I couldn't get done in 1200 yards, it just wasn't meant to be for me, lol.   I do not want to reel in 2000 yds with a fish on it...
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 24, 2017, 08:32:35 PM
I appreciate everyone's input, but I think after a little research. A GT knot will be the strongest and still pass through the guides.
If he was using hollow core as backing, it would be different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R3_znSAPz8
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: boon on July 24, 2017, 10:43:07 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 24, 2017, 08:32:35 PM
I appreciate everyone's input, but I think after a little research. A GT knot will be the strongest and still pass through the guides.
If he was using hollow core as backing, it would be different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R3_znSAPz8

PR will probably go through the guides better with very heavy mono and is considered slightly stronger. Same principle though, no double in the mono.
Title: Re: Solid Braid to Mono connection
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on July 25, 2017, 06:46:44 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on July 24, 2017, 08:32:35 PM
GT knot

also called FG Sebile and FS knot. only used this, before switching to L2L, on mono lines 30-60lb...

good luck!

ps called NO FS in brasil; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buaapin-ft0