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Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 13, 2017, 04:28:53 PM



Title: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 13, 2017, 04:28:53 PM
We are meeting with Tiburon on Thursday to talk with them about producing a limited run of extra narrow frame and spool kits for the Penn 113H Senator series.  These kits would have an effective frame width of 1 5/8" wide, as compared to 2 1/8" wide for the current T4N Yellowtail Special, and 2 7/16" wide for the stock 4/0 Senator, with corresponding weight reduction and improved ease of use.  If this project gets the green light, we would expect to deliver them in early Spring.

As most of you know, the Penn 113H Senator is a tank of a reel, bulletproof, reliable and easily serviced, with all parts readily available.  It is easily capable of fishing 60 lb. line right out of the box, and the sky is the limit with all of the high performance aftermarket parts available here on Alantani.com.  The extra narrow Tiburon spool, machined from a solid billet of aluminum and lightened wherever possible without sacrificing strength, will hold as much or more 65 lb. Spectra as a full-size 6/0 Senator holds of 60 lb. mono, providing sufficient line capacity for almost any West Coast species to be found on any local or long range trip within five day range.

We would like to get a feel for your level of interest before we make a commitment and decide upon a quantity of kits to produce.  We are not asking for any firm orders at this point, but we would appreciate it if you would please let us know if you might be a buyer.  We would estimate the selling price to be in the vicinity of $150 for the complete kit (frame, spool and rod clamp kit), and expect that shipping would be $4 to anywhere in the USA including Hawaii, Alaska and any of the Territories served by USPS.  We will ship worldwide at the actual cost of postage.

Except for the lack of any provision for harness lugs, the Tiburon frames would be exactly the same design as the current "new-style" Tiburon topless Senator frames (designed to be used without the inner trim rings), and would be compatible with all stock Made in the USA Penn 4/0 Senator side plates (black and red).  They would also work with the "new style" Cortez Conversion side plates and with Lee Pro side plates.  They would not work with Chinese Senator side plates or with Accurate Accuplates.  If there is enough demand, we would also consider making some frames in the "old-style" to work with the Accuplates.  Please let us know if you have any Accuplates looking for a frame.

We are also looking for suggestions for naming this kit, for the graphics, and to get a feel for the color selection.  Yellowtail Special would be too confusing.  This would be a dynamite YoYo reel, but we already used YoYo Special.  It would be easiest to run all of the kits in one color, and silver goes with just about any color side plates, but I think that we could also do any other standard Tiburon color (electric blue, cobalt, dark green, red, purple and black) by special order if you can wait for Tiburon next run of product in that color.

We are hoping for your input.  Please let us know what you think.

Thanks,

Randy


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: redsetta on November 13, 2017, 04:41:14 PM
This is terrific Randy - I'd definitely be interested!
Thanks, Justin


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: STRIPER LOU on November 13, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
Very cool Randy! Black would be nice if your going to use stock Penn plates, and of course colors to match Tom's plates would be great too! I'd be in for at least a couple sets. Man I wish somebody could talk Tom into doing 113H plates in purple! ;D

I have a feeling you'll get plenty of interest on this.

Have a great evening,  ..  Lou



Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on November 13, 2017, 04:54:18 PM
Definitely interested and in colors to match Tomís plates
Nick


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: steelfish on November 13, 2017, 04:59:24 PM
Yay !!  I dont need one, but I want one, count me in

that would look cool in Sea of Cortez, I imagine that like a mini 349, tall and supernarrow



Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Three se7ens on November 13, 2017, 05:13:20 PM
Im interested.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: broadway on November 13, 2017, 05:22:42 PM
Interested! A silver would be nice... and maybe another color too. ;)
Thanks
Dom


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Army_of_One on November 13, 2017, 05:33:10 PM
Don't need it, but I'm interested for sure! 


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Swami805 on November 13, 2017, 06:27:05 PM
I'm in!


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: RowdyW on November 13, 2017, 06:35:00 PM
I don't need it but I got to have at least one.......or two.........or....   Silver or Ice Blue or both.                Rudy


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Maxed Out on November 13, 2017, 06:41:03 PM
 yes silver and or red or both and yes I'll take 3 please.....Oink Oink.  ;D ;D

  As far as a name goes, how about "RP Special"

 Ted


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: David Hall on November 13, 2017, 07:28:13 PM
Iím in for one, preferably dark green.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: JRD on November 13, 2017, 08:07:33 PM
In for one!  Dark green first, red second.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: vilters on November 13, 2017, 08:25:13 PM
yeah I'd like a kit! prefer red, silver ok, black good too. thanks Randy


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Rancanfish on November 13, 2017, 09:58:03 PM
silver or BLACK, I'm good for one.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: PacRat on November 13, 2017, 10:15:51 PM
I'm in. Ditto on silver or black in that order. Blue might be nice to match our YoYo Specials.
-Mike


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: day0ne on November 13, 2017, 10:18:54 PM
I'm in, prefer black or purple.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Army_of_One on November 14, 2017, 04:46:12 AM
I'm in, prefer black or purple.
Purple can be a choice?  :D


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Keta on November 14, 2017, 05:15:02 AM
....... Blue might be nice to match our YoYo Specials.
-Mike

Ice blue would be my choice.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Islandgypsy on November 14, 2017, 09:29:05 AM
Two in Silver.
 Greg


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Smols on November 14, 2017, 11:22:31 AM
I'm in for a black or silver frame!


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: conchydong on November 14, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
Just call it jigging special.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: jlezama on November 14, 2017, 02:24:10 PM
I am in as well, Gold will be great but open for silver
Juan


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: day0ne on November 14, 2017, 09:46:24 PM
I'm in, prefer black or purple.
Purple can be a choice?  :D

IDK, but it can be a wish.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Army_of_One on November 15, 2017, 06:24:07 AM
I'm in, prefer black or purple.
Purple can be a choice?  :D

IDK, but it can be a wish.
I'd settle for red spool and black frame. It would look great with stock plates.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Decker on November 15, 2017, 11:36:39 AM
Sounds very interesting... Could someone explain what fishing situation this reel would suit?  Narrow for less line leveling.  With stock gears, a winch.   Grouper?


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: steelfish on November 15, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
Sounds very interesting... Could someone explain what fishing situation this reel would suit?  Narrow for less line leveling.  With stock gears, a winch.   Grouper?

kind of what I was thinking to do with it amigo, Decker, I dont know the rest.

there are some medium sized groupers living in shallow waters in north sea of cortez, we call them Cabrillas (google cabrilla groupers) almost all pics you will find are from this zones of the sea of cortez, the Baja Special is perfect for that, as well as the YTS narrow 113h, but a 113HNN would be da Bomb, ligther, thiner and as strong as the old mighty 113h with all the current goods, but Im planning to use some old stock SS gears for winch power.
you might notice that Im after a makaira 15, thats one of the reason to get the reel, for the cabrillas on shallow water with 100# braid on a strong small tanked out reel, but I also wanted a extra line capacity for double duty on deep reefs, other way I woould have choosen the mak10.



Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: mo65 on November 15, 2017, 12:19:45 PM
Sounds very interesting... Could someone explain what fishing situation this reel would suit? 

   I'm guessing there are many situations this mod would suite. I can see this being just the ticket for river fishing. The way we fish, not so much line is needed, so a narrow lighter spool works great. 8)


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Keta on November 15, 2017, 12:20:19 PM
Sounds very interesting... Could someone explain what fishing situation this reel would suit?  Narrow for less line leveling.  With stock gears, a winch.   Grouper?

For the Pacific NW mid depth (200'-300') halibut, rockfish and lingcod and I can see a use for mid depth yellowtail if speed is not required.  Look at the 113HNN reel as a 349 "lite" or a 501 "magnum".  Small/mid size grouper would be another use, especially with the other upgrades that we have come up with for the 113H.  The 113H is stronger than a Jigmaster, about the same strength as a 349 and with Spectra the line capacity of these reels will be enough for most uses targeting mid size fish in 50'-300' depths.  My largest Pacific halibut caught on a 113H was over 5' and a bit over 100 pounds, I cut her loose because I do not like killing large hen halibut, the stock 113H had no problems landing this fish and a "tanked" metal framed 113HNN should do most grouper.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Army_of_One on November 15, 2017, 12:51:54 PM
Sounds very interesting... Could someone explain what fishing situation this reel would suit?  Narrow for less line leveling.  With stock gears, a winch.   Grouper?
Snapper as well here in FL.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: conchydong on November 15, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
 I use a standard 113H with a electramate motor for my kite rod reel (not to be confused with a kite rod for you long range guys) Narrowing it would make retrieval a lot easier as it would almost self level.
Something to think about.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: cmdrzog on November 15, 2017, 06:56:38 PM
If it happens I'd want 2, red & ice blue or black.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Fishy247 on November 16, 2017, 10:38:54 AM
...Must....have....lol...This sounds pretty sweet! Put me down for at least one, por favor!

Thanks,
Mike


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: scrinch on November 16, 2017, 04:32:52 PM
Sorry I'm late to the game. I'd like one in either silver or black.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Jigtosser on November 17, 2017, 03:44:06 PM
Randy, this needs to happen, a narrower YTS has been needed for years, think Accurate 600 NN with a star drag... yes indeed!!!
I will need Black, and Silver...


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: surfcaster on November 18, 2017, 05:32:26 AM
I'm in The 349 kit is Awesome!


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 19, 2017, 11:54:18 PM
Thanks to everyone for the great feedback.  We are on for 50 kits, delivery expected late January.  Please see my post in the Randy Pauly - Vintage Offshore Tackle forum and confirm your quantity, color choice, and with or without graphics.

Thanks again,

Randy


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: Keta on November 20, 2017, 06:33:51 AM
Thank you Randy.


Title: Re: New Tiburon Extra Narrow (1 5/8") 113H YoYo Kits for the 4/0 Penn Senator
Post by: twotone on November 22, 2017, 09:22:01 PM
k I'm in