NOTE REGARDING COLORS: Since there are frequently variations in shade from one batch to the next, even when using the same anodizing company to produce the same color, we cannot guarantee color matches. That being said, black and silver can generally be counted on to be close to a match. Also, we want to make sure that everyone who has ordered the kits in green knows that the Tiburon green is significantly darker than the Cortez Conversions green. If you have ordered green kits expecting them to match the Cortez plates, please let us know and we can either select another color, or cancel your order.
Due to the excellent response to last week's exploratory post, we have contracted with Tiburon to produce a limited run of 50 extra narrow frame and spool kits for the Penn 113H Senator series. These kits have an effective frame width of 1 5/8", as compared to 2 1/8" wide for the current T4N Yellowtail Special, and 2 7/16" wide for the stock 4/0 Senator, with corresponding weight reduction and improved ease of use.
We expect to have them ready to ship mid-January, and we are taking orders exclusively here on Alantani.com this week. We have ordered 25 kits in silver (frame and spool - you can order them with or without graphics). The remaining 25 kits may be ordered in any standard Tiburon color with matching spools (black, red, purple, electric blue, cobalt blue and dark green), with the understanding that those kits will be anodized with Tiburon's next run of that color (which may require an extra two to four weeks), and may not have any graphics. All frames will have a black foot and rod clamp.
As most of you know, the Penn 113H Senator is a tank of a reel, bulletproof, reliable and easily serviced, with all parts readily available. It is easily capable of fishing 60 lb. line right out of the box, and the sky is the limit with all of the high performance aftermarket parts available here on Alantani.com. The extra narrow Tiburon spool, machined from a solid billet of aluminum and lightened wherever possible without sacrificing strength, will hold as much or more 65 lb. Spectra as a full-size 6/0 Senator holds of 60 lb. mono, providing sufficient line capacity for almost any West Coast species to be found on any local or long range trip within five day range.
The frames will be the same design as Tiburon's new-style Senators (topless with the flanges to replace the inner trim rings), and there will be no slots in the frames for harness lugs. The rod clamp brackets will offset outwards (as we did on the 349 kits) for maximum width. The kits are compatible with all stock Made in the USA Penn 4/0 High Speed Senator side plates (113H, 113HL, 113HLW, etc.). They also work with the "new style" Cortez Conversion side plates and with Lee Pro side plates. They would not work with Chinese Senator side plates or with Accurate Accuplates. The frames will work, but the spools will not work with the standard (low speed with black side plates) 113 Senator. If you want a frame only for the black 113, please let me know immediately and I may be able to add it to the order.
The kits are $159 PayPal, plus $4.94 for shipping by USPS first class parcel with tracking to anywhere in the USA, including Hawaii and Alaska, and to all US territories served by USPS, for a total delivered cost of $163.94. If you would like to buy, please let me know the color and quantity and I will reserve them for you. If we have not yet established a business relationship, I may ask for a $20 deposit. We ship worldwide at the actual cost of postage, but please do not ask us to undervalue the product on the customs forms.
Please place your orders now. If you already responded with an order to last week's post, please confirm the color and quantity with a post here or a private message. If I do not hear from you this week, I will contact you to confirm.
Thank you,
Randy
Wow!
One green with graphics.
One silver with graphics.
Thanks!
Steve
1 x 'All Black' for me, thanks Randy ;) ;D
One electric blue with graphics please!
Thanks
Nick
Randy, I'll take one in Electric Blue w/graphics. Rudy
Randy, I'll take one in black
I'm going (1) red, (1) black please. No graphics is fine.
Will take 1 red and 1 electric blue w or w/o graphics . Ok to invoice immediately.
Thanks
Bob
One (1) electric blue w/graphics and one (1) silver without graphics.
Thanks
Mike
Fantastic news Randy......did you get a name for these kits yet ?? I'd love to see the "RP Special" engraved on these.
.... I'd love (2) of the silver kits and (1) red kit and one extra red spool....all 3 with graphics please
Ted
One electric blue please Randy
One green with graphics please.
One silver with graphics for me please. Thanks Randy!
One in purple please.
I'd like a sliver on Randy. Thanks
Randy,
Please count me in for one of the silver kits with graphics, please.
Thank you
Dom
Randy,
Please put me down for one silver kit.
Thanks,
Tom
Randy, two (2) in Silver w/ graphics
Thanks,Greg
Bula Randy,
Looks like I came back at a good time! ;D ;D
I'd like a Silver w/graphics please!
Vinaka
Hi Randy I would like 1 black kit Thank You. Richie
Randy,
One Silver Kit if you please...
In a perfect world I would like a Silver frame and Black spool.
Also I'm not sure what "Graphics" are...
Cool
Randy, I'm good for one in silver.
Ed
Randy, Im comfirming my order
Please put me in for one of the silver kits with graphics.
Thanks
Alex
Randy can you put we down for a red one?
Thanks Peter
Could someone chime in and clue me in as to what "Graphics " on these kits refers to ?
Cool
Quote from: CooldadE on November 21, 2017, 11:25:14 AM
Could someone chime in and clue me in as to what "Graphics " on these kits refers to ?
Cool
Cool,
Here are some samples of the graphics on previous projects. The graphics on these kits will be similar but not identical.
Thanks,
Randy
I'd like a purple one with graphics please!
Thanks,
Mike
Randy ,one silver kit would be good with the pics /logo on the frame.
Thx again RP,
Anthony
Randy,
1 in black for me.
Thanks
Eugene
Randy,
2 kits in black.
Keith
Randy,
Please put me down for One (1) SILVER W/GRAPHICS. I pm'D with additional info.
tcf
What about "VOTE" Vintage Offshore Tackle Especial for a name? May sound too political.
Dom
Yeah, didja decide?
Gfish
Hard to turn away from these special kits... I'd be willing to wait a bit for 1 kit in RED.
Thanks!
Quote from: Gfish on November 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Yeah, didja decide?
Gfish
Lots of good suggestions, and a big thank you to everyone who has taken the time to post, but we have haven't decided yet. We will post the winner here as soon as we can choose one.
This might be too long to fit, but if it does, what would you think about "Ohanatani" on one side with the standard Tiburon graphics on the other, except maybe with a yellowtail/kingfish/amberjack image replacing the shark?
Ohanatani is a combination of ideas from Maxed Out and Fishy247.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 25, 2017, 01:35:34 AM
Quote from: Gfish on November 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Yeah, didja decide?
Gfish
Lots of good suggestions, and a big thank you to everyone who has taken the time to post, but we have haven't decided yet. We will post the winner here as soon as we can choose one.
This might be too long to fit, but if it does, what would you think about "Ohanatani" on one side with the standard Tiburon graphics on the other, except maybe with a yellowtail/kingfish/amberjack image replacing the shark?
Maybe a Snapper? I still think T4N1 flows the best with the model names, but I am kind of biased. ;D Thank you again for the opportunity to be a part of something awesome!
Works for me!
Man Randy, this looks like a popular item. Might have to increase the initial run.
T4XN?
OhanaTani is perfect. A picture of the jurel is fitting.
Ron
Quote from: CooldadE on November 20, 2017, 10:26:47 PM
Randy,
One Silver Kit if you please...
In a perfect world I would like a Silver frame and Black spool.
Also I'm not sure what "Graphics" are...
Cool
Randy,
Upon further thought I would like to change from Silver to a Red kit with graphics...
Thanks
Cool
Quote from: Ron Jones on November 25, 2017, 05:55:53 AM
OhanaTani is perfect. A picture of the jurel is fitting.
Ron
"Ohana T4N1"?
Quote from: Ron Jones on November 25, 2017, 05:55:53 AM
OhanaTani is perfect. A picture of the jurel is fitting.
Ron
Good call Ron
farmer 56 here .... i would like one silver no graphics if possible one extra spool ..... hope this finds you and your family well......
Quote from: farmer56 on November 26, 2017, 12:27:41 AM
farmer 56 here .... i would like one silver no graphics if possible one extra spool ..... hope this finds you and your family well......
Good call on the extra spool
Specially if its a small run
HI Randy,
One for me in black, no graphics.
Thanks,
Pete
From the opening post on page 1: "These kits have an ""effective frame width"" of..." How/where does one measure effective frame width?
Gfish
Quote from: Gfish on December 03, 2017, 07:09:21 PM
From the opening post on page 1: "These kits have an ""effective frame width"" of..." How/where does one measure effective frame width?
Gfish
It is difficult to compare the frame width of the "new-style" Tiburon Senator frames to all of the other frame kits (Cortez, Newell, Accurate or "old-style" Tiburon) because of the flange that Tiburon now incorporates into the frame to replace the inner trim rings. I used the term "effective frame width", eliminating the extra width of the flanges, to be able to compare the width these "new-style" frames on an apples for apples basis against the traditional frames, where the width was measured between the side plates. Does that make sense?
Quote from: Gfish on December 03, 2017, 07:09:21 PM
From the opening post on page 1: "These kits have an ""effective frame width"" of..." How/where does one measure effective frame width?
Gfish
The Penn one piece aluminum frames have the same issue where the inner trim rings are incorporated into the frame. I couldn't get a good measurement on my 114HLW because you can't see where the start of the inner rings would be. We should really have a standard measurement place, possibly between the base of the lugs, to compare these "lip kits."
Hey Randy, can you put me down for 2 + 1 extra spool in black with no graphics. Ed
I have a set of sideplates ready for the new narrow frame. Cortez side plates. Alan C 113hx gears, handle, knob, stainless duel dog bridge with sleeve, stainless yoke and jack. Tiburon drag star and Max Out eccentric lever.
Hi Randy, just to be clear, are the frames the old style or new style. I got lost in the posts. Thank you.
Quote from: Bryan Young on December 14, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
Hi Randy, just to be clear, are the frames the old style or new style. I got lost in the posts. Thank you.
Bryan, the frames are "new-style".
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on December 14, 2017, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on December 14, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
Hi Randy, just to be clear, are the frames the old style or new style. I got lost in the posts. Thank you.
Bryan, the frames are "new-style".
seems like a new batch of sideplates from Tom will be needed.
any way that the new Xnarrow frame could be used with stock red sideplates?
The new style frames are stronger and keeps everthing aligned.
Mike
Quote from: steelfish on December 14, 2017, 08:42:49 PM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on December 14, 2017, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on December 14, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
Hi Randy, just to be clear, are the frames the old style or new style. I got lost in the posts. Thank you.
Bryan, the frames are "new-style".
seems like a new batch of sideplates from Tom will be needed.
any way that the new Xnarrow frame could be used with stock red sideplates?
The way I understand it Alex is the stock plates work but just without the inside rings.
Steve
Quote from: swill88 on December 15, 2017, 02:04:55 AM
The way I understand it Alex is the stock plates work but just without the inside rings.
Steve
thats what I was thinking cuz the "new-style-frame" works with toms side plates that dont need inside rings.
it might be cool to have a reel with this new Xtra-narrow frame like Dominick's Tank, with all the SS goods but stock sideplates to keep the vintage look.
thanks Steve.
Steve is correct. The kits will work fine with any stock Penn made in the USA 113h side plates without the inner trim rings. Tiburon says that the frames will not work with the Chinese Senators.
Quote from: steelfish on December 15, 2017, 02:44:48 AM
Quote from: swill88 on December 15, 2017, 02:04:55 AM
The way I understand it Alex is the stock plates work but just without the inside rings.
Steve
thats what I was thinking cuz the "new-style-frame" works with toms side plates that dont need inside rings.
it might be cool to have a reel with this new Xtra-narrow frame like Dominick's Tank, with all the SS goods but stock sideplates to keep the vintage look.
thanks Steve.
Did Ton produce 2 style of side plates? One that's goes flush with the old style frame and another that is groves so that it will fit in the new style frame?
Yes Bryan, Tom has two different versions of his 4/0 side plates.
Tiburon needs me to make a decision on the graphics tomorrow, as the kits should be coming back from anodizing soon. We are going to go with Army of One's suggestion, seconded by Maxed Out, Steelfish, Caranx and PacRat - T4N1. It reads like "TANI" and it is reasonably consistent with Tiburon's numbering system. Robin, your Tiburon hat for coming up with the name will be in the box with your T4N1 kit.
We are not going to include any fish artwork except for the standard Tiburon logo on one side, as this is a very narrow frame and there is not enough room.
If anyone wants to change their order to with or without graphics, please let me know tonight if possible. If you are happy with the way that you ordered it, you do not need to do anything.
Thanks to everyone for their ideas and support in this project. I will post as soon as I have a definite delivery date from Tiburon.
Randy
very cool!
I'm sticking to my order with the graphics.... I'm calling it a bluefish ;)
Thanks Randy
Dom
Quote from: broadway on December 18, 2017, 01:27:31 AM
I'm sticking to my order with the graphics.... I'm calling it a bluefish ;)
Thanks Randy
Dom
Thanks for letting me know Dom. The more that I look at a T4N frame and picture it 5/8" narrower, the less chance that I think there is that there is room for the fish.
Thanks again,
Randy
Pretty sure whether there is a graphics or not no one is backing out of this one... what a great opportunity.
Thanks for getting this done Randy.
Send me a PM when it's time to buck up,
Dom
Sticking with my original too, Graphics included.
Yes! I'm excited for all of us. I'm sticking with the graphics and purple please. Randy, thank you for the opportunity to be a part of something so awesome! ;D
Quote from: Army_of_One on December 18, 2017, 03:39:41 AM
....... Randy, thank you for the opportunity to be a part of something so awesome! ;D
I had a plan to get me a okuma andros 12N which is pretty narrow, but now with this "special edition" extra narrow Tib frame I will skip the andros and use the 113hnn instead..
PS: we all know that I will ended up gettin' both reels ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: steelfish on December 18, 2017, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: Army_of_One on December 18, 2017, 03:39:41 AM
....... Randy, thank you for the opportunity to be a part of something so awesome! ;D
I had a plan to get me a okuma andros 12N which is pretty narrow, but now with this "special edition" extra narrow Tib frame I will skip the andros and use the 113hnn instead..
PS: we all know that I will ended up gettin' both reels ;D ;D ;D
You have to get both. How else will you know which one is better? ;D
Randy,
I'd like to change my order to include graphics.
Is it too late to add another frame in black as well?
Thanks, Tom
Graphics yes please !!
Ted
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on December 19, 2017, 04:57:48 PM
Randy,
I'd like to change my order to include graphics.
Is it too late to add another frame in black as well?
Thanks, Tom
No problem Tom. I have you covered for one silver kit and one black kit, both with graphics. I am picking the kits up at Tiburon on Thursday 12/21 and will begin shipping on Saturday.
Thank you,
Randy
Randy, Payment sent by Paypal. One silver with graphics please.
Thank you Sir!
Dom
Thank you Dom. The first shipment is yours! You don't have to worry about turning an amberjack into a bluefish because there wasn't room for the fish art anyway.
Randy
Good stuff! We're all looking very forward to these. I was just gonna tell these east coast boys it was a bluefish. Most wouldn't know what an amberjack was if it flopped in their bath tub with them.
Thanks Randy!
Dom
I will be impatiently waiting at the mailbox, in the snow, for mine to show up. Thanks again Randy.
Payment sent. Thank you Randy
farmer 56 here money on the way..... farmer out
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