This is a weird reel...a trigger drag system. It will be a challenge and there's lots of corrosion on the exterior. Some rust here and there too. But, the gears and shaft look good. And it worked reasonably smoothly before I took it apart. Biggest challenge so far was understanding that the tiny "c washers" (if that's what you call them) around the shaft need to come off to be able to slide the shaft out. Oh, and a weird metal piece (with eyes) above the bearings that I felt like I should have had a special tool for, but somehow managed without destroying it.
ok, THIS is gonna get ugly....... :-\
Quote from: alantani on January 11, 2018, 10:39:27 PM
ok, THIS is gonna get ugly....... :-\
Yep, above my pay grade...
Best,
Fred
and people wonder why i avoid working on spinners! :-\
All I can do is offer a schematic.
The reel doesn't look too complicated except for the rear drag. ??? ??? :o ::)
Well, I photo'd the order of the "rear drag stack" as I took it out (see below). And the order of washers on the pinion. So, I'm not too too worried at the moment. I did look at the schematics earlier and it would make a grown man cry. I really do like simplicity (like the Shakespeare 2000 series that was recently posted). This reel came with the 306 I recently purchased, so I gotta do something with it.
I guess you got it apart. Those little clips on the spool shaft are a pain. It take 2 dental picks for me to get them off.
You'll do fine, Grekim --
Best,
Fred
Quote from: handi2 on January 11, 2018, 11:33:49 PM
I guess you got it apart. Those little clips on the spool shaft are a pain. It take 2 dental picks for me to get them off.
It's disassembled and the big parts are soaking. To get the those clips off I used two flat head screw drivers, one to keep it from moving and the other to push it off the shaft just a little. Then I grabbed it with the needle nose pliers.
Quote from: grekim on January 11, 2018, 11:53:38 PM
Quote from: handi2 on January 11, 2018, 11:33:49 PM
I guess you got it apart. Those little clips on the spool shaft are a pain. It take 2 dental picks for me to get them off.
It's disassembled and the big parts are soaking. To get the those clips off I used two flat head screw drivers, one to keep it from moving and the other to push it off the shaft just a little. Then I grabbed it with the needle nose pliers.
I usually do the same thing with two tiny screwdrivers, making sure that I'm pushing them down into the body. They're lot's easier to keep control of and find that way.
Now, what I'm looking forward to is a complete step by step photographed tutorial about the reassembly process! ;D
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 12, 2018, 12:04:06 AM
Now, what I'm looking forward to is a complete step by step photographed tutorial about the reassembly process! ;D
Get back to you on that one! :)
Finished it this evening. I don't have much experience with ball bearings. So, I scraped some grime out with a toothpick and then worked ReelX in. No soaking like the other parts. It is spinning wonderfully. Drag is strong. Here are my mistakes:
1. I put the shaft in with c clamps so that the drag washers (remember they are in the base of the reel) would have something to fit on. All was going so well until it was time to put the headstock on. Can't do it! The tabs that stick out of the shaft at the spool end prevent you from slipping the headstock over. I've done this before, but not with the annoying c clamps. So, I had to undo the clamps and slide the shaft out. I was worried the drag stack would come apart, but it did not (Cal's grease helped there). Okay, so I get the headstock on, slide the shaft in and redo the c clamps. Doh! The nut that holds the headstock on also has to go on before you slide the shaft in. By this time I am a pro at the c clamps. So, one more time.
2. The clutch is anything but obvious in how it works. I thought I was missing a spring, but in fact the spring is clipped around the main gear (see below)! And in my redo's above, the spring had popped off (unknown to me) and I could not figure out why the clutch was not holding (because it was before I took the reel apart). So, this torsion type spring fits in a notch that is attached to the clutch.
Anyway, I am very glad I did it. And again, this thing spins like a dream. I will probably keep it for freshwater for less maintenance :)
Pictures are of the inside after being cleaned up and greased (Cal's and Reel Butter). And the drive gear before cleanup but showing the crucial torsion spring.
Way ta go...enjoy your reel! 8)
Well done!
My Daddy always said he never learned much when he did things right but he learned a lot when he made a mistake. :D I've always remembered that comment when I screw up, problem is the mind is getting too old to remember, sometimes, what I learnt. ;D
Good job, Grekim!
Best,
Fred
Quote from: mo65 on January 13, 2018, 12:59:39 AM
Way ta go...enjoy your reel! 8)
Can't wait for some warmer weather. I am putting it on a 6 foot fiberglass Browning walleye rod.
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 13, 2018, 01:09:03 AM
Well done!
My Daddy always said he never learned much when he did things right but he learned a lot when he made a mistake. :D I've always remembered that comment when I screw up, problem is the mind is getting too old to remember, sometimes, what I learnt. ;D
Good advice. And thanks guys for making this a place where you can talk about goof ups without feeling bad about it.
Quote from: foakes on January 13, 2018, 01:15:38 AM
Good job, Grekim!
Best,
Fred
And a vote of confidence from Fred is always good.
Cool beans brother G......after opening it myself, I would have thrown it in a coffee can and hid it in the basement......Bill
You did good grekim! !t's always good to give it a shot, even when not sure of the outcome...good job!
Best,
Sal
Quote from: Bill B (Tarfu) on January 13, 2018, 03:34:47 AM
Cool beans brother G......after opening it myself, I would have thrown it in a coffee can and hid it in the basement......Bill
LOL :D
Quote from: Alto Mare on January 13, 2018, 04:06:06 AM
You did good grekim! !t's always good to give it a shot, even when not sure of the outcome...good job!
Best,
Sal
It was pretty much dirt cheap, so if it turned out to be a heap of parts so be it. I figured the worst thing to happen was I'd have wasted a little time (and there are some that would say it was a waste of time regardless of the outcome). I certainly don't see it that way ;)
It's never a waste of time getting a spinning reel working fine and back into circulation, and even the experience of working on it counts for something! ;)