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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => D.A.M. Quick => Topic started by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 12:47:03 AM

Title: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 12:47:03 AM
I was able to put together this Dam 110 from parts.
(https://i.imgur.com/EL6k9Uh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JbNFzke.jpg)
What a nice little reel... so smooth. What surprised me is that no matter how small of a reel the bearing cover and the plate cover are shared by most of these Dam. The gears are also very close to the same size as the larger ones.
This little guy is a tank of a reel, it will be fun to use.

Fred, I had all needed parts, including the spool, but the bail assembly, or anything else that goes on the rotor, i don't have.

(https://i.imgur.com/pgakLWU.jpg)
If you happen to have those parts, I would appreciate it. Just let me know what to send you.

Sal
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Rivverrat on February 18, 2018, 01:25:48 AM
I really like mine. They may not be as smooth as ome of the newer stuff. I dont care... Jeff
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: oc1 on February 18, 2018, 07:07:28 AM
I got one and used it for the first time this week.  Yeah, I know.  I'm supposed to be in rehab but this was for research purposes only.  It had hardened brown grease.  I didn't really take it apart; just popped off the spool, pulled the side plates, then vibrated it in naphtha until the gunk fell off.  Kept the felt drag washer.  I was pretty darn impressed with the heft of the parts.  It seems smoother and less clunky than my 716 and 716Z.

Don't let Fred read this because I pestered him about buying one a year-or-so ago and then backed out for fear it would not tolerate the salt.  After looking at it I'm thinking this thing will do fine in the salt.  Will let you know if I manage to ruin it.

(http://www.raingarden.us/snap/110a.jpg)

I'm into early 1950's tobacco rods right now.  This is a frankenrod with Cal-Royal fly rod blank and cork, Montague reel seat and winding check, some Aetna guides and some Grampas guides.  The oak handle is unknown but it has a decent mushroom butt cap.  

-steve



Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Rivverrat on February 18, 2018, 07:30:43 AM
If you keep that reel lubed proper I cant see  why it wouldnt do well in the salt. I'm very interested in how this goes. Steve whats that fish ?  ... Jeff
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 12:46:05 PM
Thanks for the added information Guys.
I'm not sure if this reel is specified for fresh water only, if so, I don't see why. This reel is built like any other saltwater Dam reels, it is smaller but almost with similar guts.
I always enjoy your pics Steve, nice to see vintage gear in action. Is that  Bonefish? I was scheduled to do a little at Islamorada FL a couple of years back, saved it for the last day on my vacation, but didn't work out.

I just noticed the spool doesn't fit, it fooled me. It must be for the 110N.

Fred, don't bother looking for parts, I will definitely buy one of these tiny reels and keep this one for spare parts .
It is always a good idea to have some extra parts.

Best,

Sal
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: happyhooker on February 18, 2018, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: oc1 on February 18, 2018, 07:07:28 AM

I'm into early 1950's tobacco rods right now.  This is a frankenrod with Cal-Royal fly rod blank and cork, Montague reel seat and winding check, some Aetna guides and some Grampas guides.  The oak handle is unknown but it has a decent mushroom butt cap.  

-steve



Aetna guides--like the old Foulproof wire winds?

Frank

Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: oc1 on February 18, 2018, 06:38:23 PM
Sal, when did the metal spools disappear?  Mine's plastic.  Yeah, bonefish and those springy wire guides.
-steve
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 06:54:04 PM
Steve, it didn't disappear, I never had one. About a month ago I purchased a box of beat up Dam reels for $40, I was able to save a bunch of parts. The box also came with 12-14 spools, a couple were small and I thought they would fit, but those are for the 110N.
As I'm sure you already know, the 110 spool is a little smaller than the 110N.
I looked on line and there are a few available for a couple of dollars.  I'm not in a hurry, I have many more reels to fish with, I'll eventually grab one.

Sal
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Midway Tommy on February 18, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
The 110 never had metal spools, they were plastic from the start. The 265 Microlite had metal spools and are interchangeable with the 110. Any 110 that has a metal spool, the spool came from a Microlite or was a Microlite spare replacement. The 110N spools are plastic, too, and won't fit either of the previous models.  
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 07:00:28 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on February 18, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
The 110 never had metal spools, they were plastic from the start. The 265 Microlite had metal spools and are interchangeable with the 110. Any 110 that has a metal spool, the spool came from a Microlite or was a Microlite spare replacement. The 110N spools are plastic, too, and won't fit either of the previous models.  

My words exactly Tom ;D...thanks for the added information.

Sal
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: mo65 on February 18, 2018, 09:31:33 PM
   I think Fred said the 110 and the 110N both have a 3:1 gear ratio, but since the 110N's rotor and spool are larger, would that make it a bit faster? (i.e. more inches per turn)
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: mo65 on February 18, 2018, 09:31:33 PM
   I think Fred said the 110 and the 110N both have a 3:1 gear ratio, but since the 110N's rotor and spool are larger, would that make it a bit faster? (i.e. more inches per turn)
Not really sure on the 110N, I do not have that one, but I do have the spool. The 110N spool is probably just 1/8"  wider than the 110 spool, it is of the same diameter as the rotor on my 110. If it is of the same speed, you would probably gain a little line, but it would be hard to tell.
By the way, the 110 that I have has a 4.5:1 ratio. It was put together with parts, but I'm pretty sure it is the correct gear set.
The gears in the "N" models wouldn't work in reels with no "N".

Sal
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: mo65 on February 18, 2018, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 10:18:33 PM
Not really sure on the 110N, I do not have that one, but I do have the spool. The 110N spool is probably just 1/8"  wider than the 110 spool, it is of the same diameter as the rotor on my 110. If it is of the same speed, you would probably gain a little line, but it would be hard to tell. By the way, the 110 that I have has a 4.5:1 ratio. It was put together with parts, but I'm pretty sure it is the correct gear set.

   I goofed Sal...the 220 is the one with 3:1 gears. I just checked another thread and saw the 110N specs:
                           
                              110N -- 8 oz -- 4.75/1 -- reg spool -- 27 years out of production


   

   
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: foakes on February 18, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
1:5 — 265 Microlite

1:5 — 110

1:3 — 220

1:5 — 221

1:3 — 330

1:5 — 331

1:3 — 440

1:3 — 550

1:5 — 110N

1:3.6 — 220N

1:3.6 — 330N

1:5 — 331N

1:3.6 — 440N

1:5 — 441N

1:3.5 — 550N

An "N" series spool will not fit on a non-"N" reel.

Plus, if a non-"N" spool is attached to a "N" series reel — it is impossible to remove without damaging the spool shaft and/or the spool.

In typical German understatement, the following warning was included in the boxes of "N" series reels.

The "damage" includes using a hacksaw to waste either the spool spindle, or the spool shaft.  (Don't ask how I know).

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: Alto Mare on February 18, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
Thank you Mo and Fred. Fred, now I'm not sure what I have in this reel, I'm definitely not getting 1:5 Ratio, maybe close to 1:4.75...not that it matters to me, just a curiosity.

Sal
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: foakes on February 18, 2018, 11:08:43 PM
In the old days, as I recall —

Marketing departments would just round off the gear ratio numbers in many cases...

From the reality standpoint of selling reels — it made no difference to the consumer — and if ever called on the issue, the manufacturer would just state that they had rounded the numbers for the sake of simplicity and customer information.

As a matter of fact, this still goes on today with many manufacturers — simplest way to check/know actual ratios is to just make a mark on the spool — then count number of spool rotations per (1) crank rotation.

You are right, Sal — it makes no difference to the angler or the fish, although the German engineers likely needed to bite their lips!

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: philaroman on February 18, 2018, 11:28:28 PM
OK...  my loathing of rotor cups goes beyond rationality
how does the 1001 compare?
any other tiny, overbuilt, skirted DAM's?
any metal spool options?

thanks
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: foakes on February 19, 2018, 12:12:37 AM
The Quick 1000 & 1001 both have metal aluminum skirted spools.

They are both extremely capable and tough reels.

Parts are difficult without an extra donor reel.

They are very small and well built.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: philaroman on February 19, 2018, 12:35:24 AM
you mean they're "too new" to be maintained by your world-class supply?  :'( :'( :'(
is the "next size up" more abundant?
it was this 1202 (esp. the over/under drag) that peaked my interest & spool appears graphite:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dam-Quick-1202-High-Speed-Spinning-Reel/273066929027?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48419%26meid%3D0e995b44dc944998848d92da90ec7038%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202221240848%26itm%3D273066929027&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dam-Quick-1202-High-Speed-Spinning-Reel/273066929027?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48419%26meid%3D0e995b44dc944998848d92da90ec7038%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202221240848%26itm%3D273066929027&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982)
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: foakes on February 19, 2018, 01:11:19 AM
Quote from: philaroman on February 19, 2018, 12:35:24 AM
you mean they're "too new" to be maintained by your world-class supply?

Basically, when the rumors became true about DAM discontinuing German production, and moving that manufacturing to Asia — coupled with the fact that in order to place your first order with DAM for these newer parts in the mid 90's, an initial order of $5000 was required.

I do not know of one dealer who ever did this — because there were no guarantees that the landscape would not change again, or the company go out of business, or be sold to another corporation.

DAM was weighing the possibilities and fears of going out of business —and they were of the school that if you threw enough crap against the wall — something might stick.

Hopeful survival — Like a drowning man clutching at anything that might float.

Production moved to Asia — dealers discontinued buying parts, and that was it for the quality DAM reels.

There were a few specialized ones like the MDS series — but that was very limited.

I just keep my NOS parts to help out AT members who apprecite these great reels, and others who may inquire from time to time.  If parts were available for these, I would not get so many requests from European countries for parts.

Just a little niche to help folks out as possible.

Most of the DAM's starting with the "02" series, had graphite spools.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: philaroman on February 19, 2018, 02:58:58 PM
browsed a Bit & WOW!!!  ...both, quality & price  ...wish-list, next to Suveran
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: shermanemma on March 12, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
Quote from: philaroman on February 19, 2018, 12:35:24 AM
you mean they're "too new" to be maintained by your world-class supply?  :'( :'( :'(
is the "next size up" more abundant?
it was this 1202 (esp. the over/under drag) that peaked my interest & spool appears graphite:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dam-Quick-1202-High-Speed-Spinning-Reel/273066929027?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48419%26meid%3D0e995b44dc944998848d92da90ec7038%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202221240848%26itm%3D273066929027&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dam-Quick-1202-High-Speed-Spinning-Reel/273066929027?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D48419%26meid%3D0e995b44dc944998848d92da90ec7038%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202221240848%26itm%3D273066929027&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982)

I actually got outbid at the very end of the above auction. PS) It's not that I love my DAM reels and my DAM Quick International SR65 rod, I just happen to appreciate German Engineering... ;D
Title: Re: DAM Quick 110
Post by: swill88 on March 13, 2018, 05:24:39 AM
Nice stable shermanemma!

Welcome!

Steve