Hi everyone, hope your all catching fish & keeping well, I recently brought a Penn Senator 12/0 in Australia for $AU 170.00 delivered home, restoring it now, but the owner also had a rod that it was mounted on, St, croik corp then a emblem, & after the emblem, Park Fall, WIS. could this be a vintage rod that hold any value, large enough to handle a 12/0, it is a dark colour with yellow trim, thanks & cheers Don
Don, without seeing it at all I would hold onto any St Croix, certainly a big game size. let's see pics!!
John
St. Croix is still in business in Wisconsin, so that rod could be new or old. They once were in Minnesota, but moved.
Frank
thanks for you quick replies men, the only photos I have are what the seller has sent me, which is very Limmited, I have tried to post pictures many times on the forum since I brought this new computer, the computer just does not follow the come, I will try to dig up your personal emails & forward photos on, thanks for your trouble, would you both have any idea of what a ST croix rod big enough for a 12/0 would cost, maybe if they mooved from Minisota to Wis, then it could be a later model, thanks & cheers Don.
Hi Don, If you like, you can email them to me and I'll post them here for you.
Mike
Photos from Don.
Look for the union label. Do you U.S. guys remember that tune and TV commercial? The commercial came out in the 1970's when outsourcing to overseas manufacturers was rapidly escallating and things were not looking too good for unions. St. Croix was unionized and part of the Paper Workers Union so they began putting their union label on their rods. It can be seen in the photo above but you will need magnification to read it. It was a thing only in the 1970's so that helps date the rod. I have a couple of them but the damned computer just broke and I can't get to my photos and old email right now.
Donny, there should be a model number there too. You can email St. Croix with the model number and they will reply with the rod specs and a more exact date. They have great customer service and are really nice about it.
Like they say.... the world's best fishing rods. Nice reel there too. Lots of hard-earned character
-steve
Don has already bought the 12/0 separately (and cleaned it up - see photo)
Good job Don, it looks pretty good.
Mike
Thanks Mike for placing the photos in this post for me, & Steve thank you for your good info, your both true Ohana`s, cheers Don.
Don, the 12/0 looks amazing! Nice recover! Good look with the rod; keep us informed!
John
Very nice pair Don, If I didn't know I wouldn't think it wasn't the same reel...great job!
I don't have much knowledge on St Croix rods, but did have one.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=2493.msg15855#msg15855
It's the one in front holding a 16/0.
I remember being an unlimited class and made in the USA, Fl, I think.
Someone mentioned mid 60's at the time, but I wasn't sure.
I paid $250 for it and it was in amazing condition, probably never fished.
I sold it a while back and it still bothers me.
I believe you did really good, you just about only paid for the rod.
Enjoy it Don!
Sal
Thanks John & Sal, just hold your breath, the seller has told me, he wants AU$50.00 for the rod, it looks like costing me another $40.00 postage, he is looking into it for me now, so AU $ 90.00 is about $60.00 American, thanks everyone for all your good info & help, I will organize photos when I get it, cheers Don.
Hi every one, some more info on the St croix rod, the seller has found some more details on it, KE 80 R 6` 80Lbs, I have contacted the St Croix rod factory, they are trying to be helpful, butt not finding any history, of these details, hopefully some one here, maybe able to add, some thing, thanks & cheers Don.
Looks 70s vintage with Varmac RS5H real seat, makes sense for an 80lb class rod.
It most likely has old schlool chrome Mildrum Roller guides.
Buy the rod!! If you dont, I want it! LOL
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Buy the rod!! If you dont, I want it! LOL
lol, you remind me of someone else here I know. See you next week!
Dave
Hi Chris, I want it alright, just trying to get it from one side of the country to the other, @ the lowest rate, Dave love you sence of humor, cheers Don.
Don
Be sure to post pics when it arrives!
Hi there I hope your all catching your share of fish, one thing to remember, leave some in the water for Me, I now have the St CROIX rod, between the first set of rollers & the second runner it has, KONA EXPERT, on it if that means anything, also the double roller tip does not have anything written on it, I am leaning on my mate Mike Currie to post some picture of it, hopefully Mike will post more pics after I polish it up a bit, cheers Don.
Don, Kona surely refers to the Kona Coast of the Island of Hawaii. A classic marlin area. From that era, there were only three, maybe four, roller guide manufacturers. Since you said double roller tip my blind guess is Mildrum. AFTCO or Tycoon Fin-Nor are other good possibilities. Unlikely to be Allen. It should be easy to pin down with a photo.
-steve
Okay thanks Steve, hopefully Mike will see his emails soon & send the photos of the two guides, I am on about, also the tip, some times Mike has trouble with the internet, he is very helpful to me, cheers for now Don.
Mike has contacted me he will be able to post the photos on Wednesday or Thursday, you were right Chris, the reel seat, has RS 5H on it, also the word TINAC, if that helps, I managed to get the reel seat that shiney, I could hardly reed it for the glare, cheers Don. I also mixed a paste with bicard & coldpower, took two coats to get all the patarna & vertigus off.
Don Im sure it says Varmac on the seat, and Im sure the rollers are side mount Mildrum with double roller tip. No need to speculate on that LOL
Cant wait to see it!
By gee Chris, not very often your right, but your right again, yes it has VARMAC RS 5H on the reel seat, amasing what a bit of sleep will do for the eyes ay, it now 6:30 am here in Western Australia, ( WA ) cheers Don, & thanks.
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Buy the rod!! If you dont, I want it! LOL
lol, you remind me of someone else here I know. See you next week!
Dave
Just what we need another rod hog !!!!
Yes Dave, with your good work, thems rod hogs keep you pro`s bizzy ay, Also Sal I never did thank you for placing the photos of them lovely rods here, great gear & you are a master @ cleaning & polishing thanks again. cheers Don
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Donny I'm jealous you have a sweet rod and got a hell of a deal! Congratulations
The guides will shine like new with some polish and I usually wipe my rods down with some Penn rod cleaner for an ultimate shine.
Thanks Chris, yes it was a good low price, the thread in places possibly should be replace, the other option would be to coat it with 2 pack epoxy, would that reduce the value of the rod @ all, I cleaned it up a bit last night & this morning, & sent Mike some more photos, I will let Mike decide whitch photos to post, he is a very bizzy man, he has lots of thing on & working away from home, he will have lawns manage & so on, cheers Don.
Gee Mike I just realized that you had placed the photos on here, before I made that last blog, maybe your not that biz after all, Good stuff thank again Mike, cheers Don.
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Gee Mike I just realized that you had placed the photos on here, before I made that last blog, maybe your not that biz after all, Good stuff thank again Mike, cheers Don.
Ha, tricked you Don - I got home early & lawns and stuff aren't all that high on my priority list anymore. :)
Mike
I would leave it just as it is. I see no reason to do anything. Yes it would reduce its value (at least in my opinion) They're only original once.....
Thanks Chris, yes I take your point, I do want to keep it original as possible, & Mike, My turd does not get much priority since we installed artificial turf, cheers Don.
Very nice St. Croix, Don. An oldie but goodie. A definite keeper.
If I'm not mistaken, the St. Croix, is a river on border of the States of Minnesota & Wisconsin.
I got this'n about 10 yrs. ago. My absolute-best non-flyrod pole and made in the USA to boot! It' a 6'-6" med.-heavy freshwater rod. You got me wonderin about St. Croix's saltwater stuff now...
After breaking a bunch of Rain Shadow UL graphite blanks I started spending the few extra bucks for St.Croix and have not had another problem. They do a better job of balancing their factory-built rods too.
-steve
thanks Greg & Steve, I contacted David Fischer of ST Croix rods, he has looked through some old catalouge, for me , he quotes, in the 1975 edition there is mention of the KONA rod, know photo, David also checked through the 1974 & 76 books but did not find anymore info, So the KONA was made in 1975 or earlier, by the way Greg, did you tell the story of your resent purchase of your Alvey reel, if so I must have mist it, I also see a st Croix 2 peice surf rod for sale in Queensland Australia, today, graghyte for AU $ 429.00 I think it was, cheers Don.
Backed-up a bit lately Don. Some fishin. Work. Posted a comparison on the stock original Jigmasters vs the HS models, that took awhile. Some other small stuff to do, but, no work for 4 days! Already got the pictures and tomorrow AM is in the plan-Stan. Check the Ohana section.
Okay all you big game rod fishos, I have the roller tip dismantled & the other set of rollers, I have cleaned them in 50/50 mix, then honed the centre of rollers, then smoothed them with 1200 wet & dry cloth, then 2000, now I am about to place them back together, the question is, If I wish to uses the rod from the beach, do I flood every roller with grease to keep the sand out, then clean them when I get home, or do I grease or oil lightly, & totally dismantle them to keep them in good order, cheers Don.
Ok heres what you do.
Lightly coat all parts with WD40.
Once you have it re-assembled go to home Depot and Find some nice wall anchors, decorative wooden pegs or something.
Pick a nice clean spot on a wall
Make two pencil marks about 4' apart and centered
Check for level
Drill a hole slightly smaller than drywall anchor
Insert said drywall anchor
Screw wooden peg into this anchor
Place rod on pegs with rollers facing up
Stand back and admire your nice rod display
Your ONLY OTHER option is to PM me your paypal address and price
Thanks Chris that sounds Like a good idea, wont get grease & crap all over me that way, but knowing my luck, when I drill the holes I will go straight through the electric wiring, cheers Don.
I was just joking Don LOL
Here's a few photos of Don's St Croix rod with the 12/0 mounted.
Looks good Don - you're getting an arsenal of big penns together.
Mike
That looks gorgeous Don, enjoy it!. Great job on the cleaning as well.
Mike, thanks for posting these for us.
Sal
That looks so good!!!
Thanks for posting this lot of photos Mike, & thanks Sal & Chris, the rod is coming up good, I still have to sand the but down & re varnish it, & I might just place some clear varnish, on some of the thread, that is a bit tattered, not real bad though, the lady on the left of the photo, is My grand daughter Kate, holding the 14/0 on the bent but rod that I brought for AU $150.00, & the 10/0 , & the Asian lady is Ayaka, is holding Pats Diawa 1000 electric reel, & the 12/0 with the St Croix kona rod in her left hand, the chrome has come up quite shiney on the St croix rod, I have not polished it yet, Ayaka stayed @ Kates place about 8 years ago, when she was over hear learning English, for 12 months, they are both 24 now, every one keep well cheers Don.
Leave the butt as is or use Citri-strip from Home Depot.
Don't sand it. You'll end up removing too much material.
Ay Chris, thanks for the info, all you people are so helpful to me, keep well cheers Don.
Great stuff, Don! I'm using the citrus strip to re-do a Magnaflex Hatteras heaver someone painted, which then flaked, for the same reason of not removing material.
John
Hi John, thanks for the tip, hope it comes up good for you, cheers Don. keep well.