the correct dates are september 2-6, 2019we have dates! i'll say one thing. rosie is organized!
guys on the trip coming up have first crack. that's seven spots. numbers 8 through 12 are up for grabs as of right now. post if you want in! details to follow!
edit: craig arsell is the eighth.
the list! (updated 1/4/2019)
1. Alan Tani (2018 veteran)
2. Peter Young (2018 veteran)
3. Mike Pate (2018 veteran)
4. Rich Gunderson (2018 veteran)
5. Todd Johansson (2018 veteran)
6. Mark Thomann (2018 veteran)
7. Craig Arsell (2018 veteran)
8. Jack Bradley
9. Ed Hayden
10. Rich Kubota
11. Lee Putman
12. Marc Fong
QuoteHey Alan,
Hope you are well...
I have reserved September 2-9, 2019 for your charter next year. Charter Masters always have the first right or refusal of their previous year's week...so, I put you down for it, if something changes, no worries.
Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Cheers!
Rosie Flowers
General Manager
Cedros Sportfishing, LLC
rosie@cedrossportfishing.com
619-772-7570
5663 Balboa Avenue #493
San Diego, CA 92111
Alan,
Count me in for 2019. See you on the 2nd at the Vagabond/Miguel's
Pete
I'm in.
Mike Pate
So in 2019 this will be a 6 1/2 day trip instead of 3 1/2 days like this year?
Mike Pate
Betting a typo, suspect it should have been 2-6 September 2019
Alan, put me on the 2019 list please.
Steve
got it!
from rosie!
Quote from: Cedros Sportfishing on August 12, 2018, 04:55:33 AM
Hey Alan...
Ugh... Yes, the dates are September 2-6. (Slip of the finger on the 10 key!) My bad!
Rosie
Yep yep.
I would like to go.
Jack
I would like to be on this trip Alan.
Tim
Alan, count me in for 2019. --Rich
Just to be clear, Yep Yep means I am in.
Ron
Quote from: Ron Jones on August 19, 2018, 02:11:57 AM
Just to be clear, Yep Yep means I am in.
Ron
Same here as in " I would like to be on this one"
Tim
The Dream Team is getting back together?
Jack
Quote from: natch! on August 20, 2018, 01:10:01 AM
The Dream Team is getting back together?
Jack
Does this mean Jack N Dianne will be going ? ;D
BT
Dianne is an awesome lady, but really, she'll never take the place of Jill.
Jack
Alan... Please put our friend John Cote down for this trip.
Thanks
Steve
I would love to go.
Thanks
Ed
Yes please put me on the list.
Thank you
Ed 650-305-1563
Sorry should have included all my info.
Ed Hayden
650-305-1563
ehaydenus@yahoo.com
Cheers,
Ed
Alan,
I'm a friend of Ed's. I love fishing both long range and Cedros and would like to go with your group. If there is room, i would like to come on your trip.
To the gentleman who is bringing 2 oz sinkers for his bait rigs, I just returned from Cedros. Bait was plentiful mackerel, both small and large. My friend who was trying to use 2-4 oz sinkers had his bait rigs screwed up by the larger bait. I used 8 oz sinkers with no problems. Yellowtail bite was early and lasted about 2 hours. Faster you went south to the grounds, the more 25-35lbs yellows you caught.
Rich Kubota
(530) 400-8640
richpa45@hotmail.com
Great info Rich... and... welcome.
Is it two different species of mackerel you were catching?
Hope to see you at Cedros.
Steve
Steve, looked like the same species, just different sizes depending on where we were catching them. Also there were some sardines in the mix. Definitely, did better with the bigger mackerel on our trip. Also used them for some dropper loop fishing. Some of our guys wanted to catch big sheepsheads and grouper.
Rich
I am definately interested in participating next September. Nothing I would like more than to give it another go...Great fishing with you all last week... Now to research and purchase new gear....Mahalaaa...
V/R
MOOK
Quote from: CraigArsell on September 09, 2018, 03:10:53 PM
I am definately interested in participating next September. Nothing I would like more than to give it another go...Great fishing with you all last week... Now to research and purchase new gear....Mahalaaa...
V/R
MOOK
MOOK, you better be there. The three amigos need another shot at plugging the boat!
Ron
Quote from: Ron Jones on September 09, 2018, 04:21:17 PM
MOOK, you better be there. The three amigos need another shot at plugging the boat!
Ron
Quote from: alantani on August 07, 2018, 02:04:39 AM
the correct dates are september 2-6, 2019
I wouldn't miss it for the world Chief...Had a great time last week for sure...Even better time hanging with you...
MOOK
we have dates! i'll say one thing. rosie is organized!
guys on the trip coming up have first crack. that's seven spots. numbers 8 through 12 are up for grabs as of right now. post if you want in! details to follow!
the list! (updated 8/30/2018)
1. Alan Tani (2018 veteran)
2. Peter Young (2018 veteran)
3. Mike Pate (2018 veteran)
4. Rich Gunderson (2018 veteran)
5. Reserved for Todd Johansson (2018 veteran)
6. Ron Jones (2018 veteran)
7. Reserved for Mark Thomann (2018 veteran)
8. Steve Williams
9. Jack Bradley
10. Tim Liddle
11. John Cote
12. Ed Hayden
Stand by
13. Rich Kubota
QuoteHey Alan,
Hope you are well...
I have reserved September 2-9, 2019 for your charter next year. Charter Masters always have the first right or refusal of their previous year's week...so, I put you down for it, if something changes, no worries.
Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Cheers!
Rosie Flowers
General Manager
Cedros Sportfishing, LLC
rosie@cedrossportfishing.com
619-772-7570
5663 Balboa Avenue #493
San Diego, CA 92111
I'm in if a spot is available.
MOOK.
craig, first call for cedros 2019 goes to the 2018 veterans. since you made it on this last trip, you are number 8 on the list. ed and rich are now on standby. (ed, sorry about that.)
Put me in for 2019 as well. Looks like I'll have the vacation time. I'm already signed up for 2 10 day trips for next year.
mark, you're on!
ok, um, todd, you are signed up for 2019. i don't think we're going to let you off the hook on this one. ;D
(http://alantani.com/gallery/25/1_08_09_18_4_55_18_25415961.jpeg)
i already spoke to rosie about having 6 boats and only two per boat. i also want the fish gutted, gilled and slushed on board. not sure if slush is possible. i know they will have no problem getting salt........ ;D
The slush is something I was concerned about. It is a shame to have the fish processed at such a high level when they weren't cooled down correctly in the first place. The boats aren't really set up for it, but it is something Rosie will have to figure out if the goal is to advance to the next level.
Ron
At least they put them on ice unlike some other pangas I have fished on. Would kill bags with ice work after bled, gilled and gutted? The hold works good for bleeding and initial cooling. I had some YT last night and it was good. I agree that the fish care could be taken up a notch. They will also have the AC unit hooked up in the fish room which will keep the processing area cool and Rosie mentioned that they will be putting in blast freezers in the future.
Todd
I actually think the holds would work if they hold water, it would just be a PAIN to clean. Once they were cooled down in a salt slurry I think kill bags would be fine. They would probably be fine just staying in the hold as long as there was room to bleed and cool down. Gutting and gilling is the big one, that way the inner cavity has access to the cooling effect.
Ron
They also need better insulated bags to transport the fish to CBX. Some of the fish packs were already soft as we were distributing them. Only about 4 hours after bagging them at Cedros. Everyone was nice enough to give me fish that was still frozen for my trip to GA. And Ron took his to 5 Star for a flash freeze. My fish made it home still in good shape.
Mike
Like the Canook mentioned above. The big issue with the fish is freezing facilities on sight. The chest freezers they have now are inadequate. Rosie says they have a plan to fix that this year, she was also interested in the insulated bags Alan used. I had my fish out of 5 Star for 11 hours or so and they weren't rock hard when I left. The bags kept them cold until I got them in the freezer, still in good shape.
The operation is growing, and I think they have a path to rectify this issue. That's a good thing, I intend to continue being a costumer for years.
Th Man
No problem Alan. Thanks for the call. I look forward to fishing with you in the future!
Truly bummed I miss this, if a spot comes available let me know
I can add your own name to the list. I might even look into a second trip.
Quote from: alantani on September 15, 2018, 03:17:13 PM
I can add your own name to the list. I might even look into a second trip.
Please add me on the list! Jason Danchise. Hope that second trip comes through
Done, thanks!
:o :o :o
Darn, the 2019 trip filled quick! I need to log in more frequently ;)
A friend just came back from a Cedros fly-in trip and he got a couple of wahoo and a personal best 45lb yellowtail!
Just wanted to add that I keep a kill bag at Cedros and used it the last 2 years. Kept the fish icy cold after bleeding. So much better than using the boat's forward compartment and ice.
I leave a tackle box and the kill bag to use every years and just bring a few rods and my reels. Look forward to fishing with you'll in the future.
Rich Kubota
If there is a opening I'll go.
Quote from: alantani on September 15, 2018, 03:17:13 PM
I can add your own name to the list. I might even look into a second trip.
It looks like this might be a good idea.
added, thanks!!!!!
Can I go?
i added you to the list. at this rate, i may actually put together a second trip.
I put in my vacation request on Friday. One of the things my new boss and I talked about is that I'm good with unpaid time off. He politely pointed out that he, in fact, needs an employee. I think I may need a new job come the end of October ext year!
The Man
Quote from: alantani on August 07, 2018, 02:04:39 AM
the correct dates are september 2-6, 2019
we have dates! i'll say one thing. rosie is organized!
guys on the trip coming up have first crack. that's seven spots. numbers 8 through 12 are up for grabs as of right now. post if you want in! details to follow!
edit: craig arsell is the eighth.
the list! (updated 8/30/2018)
1. Alan Tani (2018 veteran)
2. Peter Young (2018 veteran)
3. Mike Pate (2018 veteran)
4. Rich Gunderson (2018 veteran)
5. Todd Johansson (2018 veteran)
6. Ron Jones (2018 veteran)
7. Mark Thomann (2018 veteran)
8. Craig Arsell (2018 veteran) Im in....
9. Steve Williams
10. Jack Bradley
11. Tim Liddle
12. John Cote
Stand by
13. Ed Hayden
14. Rich Kubota
15. Alex Kitzies (fluent in Spanish)
16. Jason Danchise
17. Lee Putman
18. Marc Fong
19. Juan Lezama (also fluent in spanish!)
QuoteHey Alan,
Hope you are well...
I have reserved September 2-9, 2019 for your charter next year. Charter Masters always have the first right or refusal of their previous year's week...so, I put you down for it, if something changes, no worries.
Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Cheers!
Rosie Flowers
General Manager
Cedros Sportfishing, LLC
rosie@cedrossportfishing.com
619-772-7570
5663 Balboa Avenue #493
San Diego, CA 92111
Hi Alan
I am in, even for standby spot!
Juan
Quote from: alantani on August 07, 2018, 02:04:39 AM
the correct dates are september 2-6, 2019
we have dates! i'll say one thing. rosie is organized!
guys on the trip coming up have first crack. that's seven spots. numbers 8 through 12 are up for grabs as of right now. post if you want in! details to follow!
edit: craig arsell is the eighth.
the list! (updated 8/30/2018)
1. Alan Tani (2018 veteran)
2. Peter Young (2018 veteran)
3. Mike Pate (2018 veteran)
4. Rich Gunderson (2018 veteran)
5. Todd Johansson (2018 veteran)
6. Ron Jones (2018 veteran)
7. Mark Thomann (2018 veteran)
8. Craig Arsell (2018 veteran)
9. Steve Williams
10. Jack Bradley
11. Tim Liddle
12. John Cote
Stand by
13. Ed Hayden
14. Rich Kubota
15. Alex Kitzies (fluent in Spanish)
16. Jason Danchise
17. Lee Putman
18. Marc Fong
19. Juan Lezama - (also fluent in spanish!)
My friend John Cote (#12 on the list) has advised me he won't be able to make this trip and to please take his name off the list.
Steve
will do, thanks!
If you put together a second trip, pending dates, I would like to get on the list, please!
Ben
will do. it's a great trip!!!!!
Alan. This 5 day trip sounds to good to miss. Put me on list please.
Mike Grosman
will do. tim won't be able to make it, so we'll move up rich.
ok, short version! the total is $2410 per person for this trip. it includes everything except tips and alcohol. please send a check to rosie as soon as you can. you can send half now and half in june, or just send all of it now (which is what i'm doing). make the check out to Cedros Sportfishing BCM, LLC. note that the check is for the "alantani.com charter, sept. 2-6, 2019." her address is -
Rosie Flowers
General Manager
Cedros Sportfishing BCM, LLC
rosie@cedrossportfishing.com
619-772-7570
5663 Balboa Avenue #493
San Diego, CA 92111
ok, now for the breakdown. we are tentatively fishing two people per panga, not three, and fishing a half day when we arrive, which is why the cost is an extra $255 higher. the price per person is normally $2350, but we get one free charter master spot which i am throwing into the pot. instead of $28,200, the 12 of us will ride for $25,850. two extra pangas for the regularly scheduled 3 days of fishing will be an extra $2160, then add an extra half day of fishing on the day that we arrive at $900 for the six pangas gives us a grand total of $28,910, or just a shade under $2410 per person.
lastly, welcome to the four new guys - steve, jack, ed and rich k. for the new guys, take a look at the report from last year. we will be talking about tips and requested changes in fish handling, plus any other requests that you have, in a later email. i will also be confirming personal/passport info later. for now, please get those checks out as soon as possible. thanks! alan
I'm so excited I'm going out of my mind. I don't know how I'm going to do all this fishing and not get fired. Any idea about the SOA trip?
The Man
the dates for our 8 day trip are october 15-23, 2019. no deposits needed until april. chief, you got your suitcase, right? i shipped it back a month ago.
I did, it took longer than I thought it would, must have been the holidays.
Thanks!
The Man
How did we miss it Ron?
one of the girls grabbed ron's suitcase and took it to lake tahoe with them! ;D
Yep,
That's wat happens at Alan's house! :)
Ron
Quote from: alantani on January 11, 2019, 11:22:20 PM
one of the girls grabbed ron's suitcase and took it to lake tahoe with them! ;D
D'oh.
Quote from: alantani on January 11, 2019, 01:54:41 AM
ok, short version! the total is $2410 per person for this trip. it includes everything except tips and alcohol. please send a check to rosie as soon as you can. you can send half now and half in june, or just send all of it now (which is what i'm doing). make the check out to Cedros Sportfishing BCM, LLC. note that the check is for the "alantani.com charter, sept. 2-6, 2019."
All paid up. Looking forward to this year's trip! Gonna keep my suitcase with me though...not trust it to Alan! ;D
keep the suitcase away from my daughters!!!! ;D
Quote from: alantani on January 12, 2019, 02:27:50 AM
keep the suitcase away from my daughters!!!! ;D
I think they would be afraid to touch mine, there might be something living in it.
Check out to Rosie and reservations at the Vagabond are made. Now just have to wait seven months :-\
Looking forward to it. Save me a bunk Pete !! I will try and find some fancy shirts so that I can keep up with all of the Mook's wardrobe changes !! :D
Cheers:
Todd
Todd,
No problem you and Mook can share the second bed :o
It better be a BIG bed !! ::)
Cheers:
Todd
I see that Alex is on the list now !! It will be great to meet and fish with you Alex !! Looking forward to it.
Cheers:
Todd.
I got my current statement from Rosie today and I'm all paid up and ready to rumble!
paid in full. we will have two guys to a boat. fish hard!!!!
Payment sent! Looking forward to fishing with you'all.
Rich Kubota
I am conflicted here, on one hand I would like to see two more drop out but on the other I want to see ALL of you go and have a blast.
Quote from: Hardy Boy on January 15, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
I see that Alex is on the list now !! It will be great to meet and fish with you Alex !! Looking forward to it.
Cheers:
Todd.
you might referrering to me Todd, but its not me on the list, thats another Alex who is going, Wish I could go, but its not my time for this trips hopefully soon.
best of luck.
Well that's too bad, but I'm sure the other Alex will be a fine fellow also. Its not hard to look good on that trip because you only have to be a bit better than the Chief and that's not too hard even for me, or anyone else for that matter !! ;D
Cheers:
Todd
How many cigar smokers do we have coming? I know of at least five: Mook, Chief, Mike, Todd and myself....any others? Want to make sure I bring enough to share!!
i'll just sit upwind...... ;D
I'm bringing some, and a bottle of whiskey.
Oh, and Todd, we'll se about catching fish in a couple weeks, can't wait.
The Man
I hope that Washington is ready for a couple of kanooks again !! I hear I have to stock up on beverages as the town we are going to does not sell alcohol !! ..................... that would never happen North of the border !! ........................... ;D
Cheers:
Todd
Don't worry, we'll have plenty of sources of libations!
The Man
I'll pass on the cigars and tequila, and just load up on Tecate when we get there!
1 yellowtail=1 Tecate!
Ron Jones
could be a rough trip!
My best day at Cedros I caught 26 YT. If I YT = 1 cerveza... OMG!
That would be a little better than an average day, remember that's Mexican beer ............. so its Ok to start at sun up.
Scrinch: leave the bad habits to your room mate ........................... just bring ear plugs !!
Cheers and bottoms up !!:
Todd
Todd, I've been meaning to mention my favorite use of last year's yellowtail. While marinated in vinaigrette and lightly bbq'ed was fantastic, my favorite is smoked and then flaked and mixed with mayo, chopped onions, and chopped celery...served like a tuna sandwich. It's delicious smoked, but a little dry. This adds moisture back while keeping that smoky flavor. Would go perfectly with a few of those Tecates this way!
I had this last week.
One of the keys to good smoked YT IMO is to keep the skin on. There is a thin fat layer between the skin and meat which will keep the fish moister.
Edit to Brine Mix
Sorry for the mixup I just checked my notes for the brine.
In a blender 1/2 cup Kosher salt blend to almost powder
1 lb brown sugar blend well together with salt
Fill the blender full with water and mix for several minutes more
Depending on how much fish you smoke you may need to do the above twice or more
Pour mixture over fish in a large pan or pot, I use a large pot I use for canning
Stir fish every 3 or so hours to make sure the bring penetrates evenly
Let sit in the frig 8-10 hours or longer, I do this over night.
Take fish out of the brine and rinse with fresh cool water.
Here if you want is the time to add seasons like chili flakes, garlic powder, lemon, lime or orange on the meat side.
Key #2 place fish on a rack skin side down and let fish dry until opaque. No wet or shiny parts on the fillets. I use a fan to speed up the drying process and it keeps flies off of the fish.
Key #3 use a more mild smoke, I like Alder wood. IMO Marquisette or Hickory is too strong but each his own here. 2-3 pans of wood only, depending if you go with chunks or the more sawdust type styles of smoking wood.
Key #4 low and slow. Low temps and hours works best. I smoke my fish for about 4-6 hours depending on the fillets thickness. For me to test when it is time for the fish to come out of the smoker I bend a fillet and when it breaks slowly the fish is done. If it cracks open quickly IMO the fish is over cooked, not bad but more like fish jerky once it cools and dryer to the mouth. This part is a learning process so play with the texture and flavor how you like.
Now if your going to bag the smoked fish or seal it up and freeze it put the fillets into the frig uncovered until they cool fully. I should of added I let the smoked fish come to room temp before it goes into the frig. If you bag it sooner you most likely will get condensation in the bag and when you bring the fish room temp still in the bag it will be a bit slimy. You could let it air dry until the dampness goes away from the fillets but this takes time so if you wait a while until the fish is fully chilled you won't have the the slimy issue and a much better product.
Just like anything else this will take time to prefect, so if you want to impress your friends do a few batches until you have it fully dialed in. I have been doing this maybe 25 years and every once in a while I will have a batch that I won't share with others do them not being up to my standards, so never let the word out you have smoked fish until it passes what you think is good.
Edit: And there is no reason it go with a high tech smoker. These pics were taken several years ago and the inside is now much darker with a deep brown patina.
Great tutorial, thanks!
Ron Jones
That sounds great ! I have a bunch of salmon candy to smoke up so I will have a go at some yellow tail also. I will report back on my results.
Cheers:
Todd
Thanks for the recipe, and was wondering how you keep your smoker so clean?🐟🤣
Socal is that an opening on the bottom? Does it vent at the top? Nice set up. Dominick
ONE MONTH TO GO !!! Starting to get some stuff together. Want to do a little more deep dropping this time. Fishing reports have been good .................... lets hope it keeps up or turns on when we get there. Mook and Pete see you at the airport ??
Cheers:
Todd
Deep drop? YoYo iron or dropper loop? It seemed that last year we mostly slow trolled although I threw surface iron too.
This year I'm taking...
Bass: TranX 300 on a smx82mh... plastics and hard baits
Surface Iron: TranX 500 on a psw909xhj
YT: Saltiga 40ld2 w/50# on a phd760xh... bait & yoyo
Deep drop with bait so dropper loop or not (I used a slider BC style). Mook and I did some drops one afternoon and did great: YT, pinto bass and calico. There has to be grouper spots around as Chevo showed us pictures with him and a commercial panga guy with some big ones. Did not try heavy yoyo irons at the same spot.
Todd
Grouper and White Sea Bass will hit a dropper loop or sliding sinker rig... halibut too.
Quote from: Dominick on May 18, 2019, 05:18:50 AM
Socal is that an opening on the bottom? Does it vent at the top? Nice set up. Dominick
Sorry Dom I never saw this until now.
That vent looking thing at the top is how the cooling system worked, it is not a thru vent' I did drill 12 3/4" holes for venting. 3 on the top on both the left and right sides then did the same thing at the bottom.
If you look at the last pic you can see 4 of the holes toward the bottom on the left and right.
Mark: I'm down "down" for some deep droping. Fun to catch different species. I will PM you with some Cedros rod questions.
Todd
Hey Mark, Who in SD stocks the MC Viejos?
Jack
I think you can get them at Anglers Choice on Rosecrans. I get them at the Longfin up in Orange.
Big Hammer, Fish Trap and other plastics will work also if you don't find the MC's in the colors or sizes your looking for.
I was going to bring some 5" swimbaits and leadheads for people to use. Looks like most of the swimmies I'm bringing are MC Viejos. The lead heads are mostly 1.5oz so bring your own if you want to go lighter.
I have some big hammers but wanted to try some 7" Viejos.
I wonder if it might be a good idea to spend the first afternoon targeting Calicos and the misc. species. The reports from last year make it sound like it was very slow fishing for YT that first afternoon.
Jack
Quote from: natch! on August 02, 2019, 11:03:10 PM
...I wonder if it might be a good idea to spend the first afternoon targeting Calicos and the misc. species. The reports from last year make it sound like it was very slow fishing for YT that first afternoon.
Jack
That's a good idea. The pangueros didn't think we had time to make bait the first day last year, so we slow-trolled rapalas and threw iron for little action. If we have no bait the first day this year, why not use plastics for calico? Unless of course they say that there aren't many calico around.
Calicos are always around at Cedros!
Tood,
Think Mook already has your flight info, if not please provide and we'll pick you up at the airport.
Pete
For the checkerboards I like something with red flake. Color patterns like Big Hammer's Red Calico Hunter and I have been doing well here in So Cal with the Senorita pattern.
Good luck guys
HI Guys,
I just returned this morning from a 6 day at Cedros and wanted to let you know what worked for us to help out for when we get together in a few weeks for an amazing trip.
What worked:
the early morning is key. Yellowtail bite shuts off basically after 9am. You may pick up 1 or 2 after that but slow. today was our last day and my son, a friend and I picked up 17 quality YT in 2.5 hours on a combination of live mackerel and throwing jigs.
The afternoons are generally very slow for YT although you can pick at calicos.
You need to bring a few sabikis. The captain like small size 6 or 8. As Rich said if you use a heavy weight 8-12 ounce you avoid the dreaded sabiki tangle.
Line - nothing under 40. I used up to 60 for trolling mackerel for YT or dropper looping. Flouro is not needed for YT but may be useful if tuna are in Sept. Bring 40-50.
Hooks - I just have used Mustad 94150 last couple of years in 5/0 and they have been great.
Calicos - bring some 6-8 ounce type megabaits or colt snipers (pink, blue and chrome is great). They like to fish the calicos at 60-120 ft on reefs and you can't get down with your swimbaits. I actually put red plastics on my dropper loop rig to get down and slayed big calicos. The captain thought it was funny as he hadn't seen it before.
Yellowtail - we were trolling live mackerel and slinging jigs. Yoyo type like Salas 6X - blue/white, scrambled egg, mint. we didn't use any rapala type trolling lures but a couple years ago we used those instead of the mackerel.
Dropper loop rig. see the following.
We were fishing for calico and my son caught a 120# (est) black seabass on a colt sniper, an Okuma PCH and an Okuma Komodo with 40#. Crazy. We released on the year before but decided to keep this one. We only kept fish 2 of the 6 days we fished and released everything else.
Look forward to seeing you all there in a few weeks. It is a very special place!
My other attachments
another picture
another picture
I forgot, rods and reels.
I will bring the following:
a fathom 25nLD for trolling mackerel
a fathom 40 NLD for dropper loop
an okuma 463 on an 8ft PCH rod for sabiki, throwing light iron, calicos, etc.
an 8ft makiara rod with a penn torque 30 with 40 lb line for also throwing jigs
That should take care of it. Look forward to fishing with you guys soon.
Cheers,
Ed
we suddenly have one open spot!
!!! :0) !!!
Lee made it ? ............................nice to see !!!!.
Cheers:
Todd
Sorry guys, the golden goose laid an egg in my lap and I would be a fool to turn it down. I won't be there this year, but I'll be able to aford much nicer gear next time around. Mind you, I don't know that there is anything "nicer" than a Pro Gear 506 and a YTS, but I will be able to have it!
The Man
we are back up to 12! ron, gonna miss you :-[
Quote from: Ron Jones on August 12, 2019, 03:13:54 PM
Sorry guys, the golden goose laid an egg in my lap and I would be a fool to turn it down. I won't be there this year, but I'll be able to aford much nicer gear next time around. Mind you, I don't know that there is anything "nicer" than a Pro Gear 506 and a YTS, but I will be able to have it!
The Man
:0(
Gonna miss you Chief, but Lee is a great guy so I'm sure we'll survive
You all will have a blast. Ted and I have been tearing up the PNW. You guys get a turn.
The Man
I'm not sure if the Chief's not making it will improve or degrade the evening chat around the fire pit !! :P
Cheers:
Todd
Quote from: Hardy Boy on August 13, 2019, 06:43:19 PM
I'm not sure if the Chief's not making it will improve or degrade the evening chat around the fire pit !! :P
Cheers:
Todd
Thanks friend, that's the first time anyone has considered the posibility that my presence might be advantageous!
The Man
i'm sure others will step up! ;D
It was a very very small consideration ........................................... but a consideration non the less !!!
Cheers:
Canook !
Well, we still have a Mook and a Canook, now we need someone to step up and fill the role of the Man. Auditions start on Sept 2nd.
I'd have to use stilts.
Quote from: Keta on August 13, 2019, 10:02:45 PM
I'd have to use stilts.
And a mega phone!!
There's no replacement for me, I to big of a pian in the 12 year old rule. (Someone needs to tell Alan she's in college now.)
The Man
I'll miss ya.
Gonna miss you down there this year, Ron. I have a feeling that my roomie Todd will make up for your VOLUME around the fire pit, but not your content! ;) Alan, I will be driving in on Monday morning from Temecula like I did last year. Mook, do you need a ride down Monday morning? Unfortunately I won't be driving back that way after the trip. I'll be driving the coast route back north. Anyone else need a ride back north?
Rich: I brought extra ear plugs for you in case I snore !!! ........................ there is a good chance. Mook and Pete are meeting me at the AP on Sunday (I hope) and then we are staying with the rest of the troop at the Vagabond. I will assume that you meant that my content around the fire pit is much more engaging and intellectual ??
can't wait:
Kanook.
No worries Todd, Mook and I will be there to pick you up on Sunday
Quote from: Hardy Boy on August 22, 2019, 04:43:56 PM
Rich: I brought extra ear plugs for you in case I snore !!! ........................ there is a good chance. Mook and Pete are meeting me at the AP on Sunday (I hope) and then we are staying with the rest of the troop at the Vagabond. I will assume that you meant that my content around the fire pit is much more engaging and intellectual ??
can't wait:
Kanook.
No problem. Snoring doesn't bother me. I've gotten used to it in stereo on my Alaska trips. I just meant that your and The Chief's receivers are tuned to different stations. :)
Alan, will take any 2020 date you have open-prefer sept but not picky
i have you down. thanks!!!!!
Only 47 more hours then I start the first leg of the drive to SD. I have my gear and cloths rendered down and everything fits into a 24"x14" bag. I feel naked taking only 2 rods.... ;0)
Well Lee, If you change your mind about only 2 post up and I can bring another one for you.
all you need is a 30 pound rig and a 50-60 pound rig. we don't need to bring a half dozen rods each!
I'm bringing 3... a 50# for fishing Mac's for YT and yoyo, a surface iron rig and a bass stick.
The only thing I would add is my go to pacific halibut rod for dropper loop (50#) but the 2 rods I have packed will do the job.
If you're all in on YT you only need one... a 40-50# rig for making bait and fly lining/slow trolling a Mac. You could yoyo or dropper loop with it too. But then I didn't become a tackle enthusiast to just take one rig and a couple of hooks! I usually substitute a different word for enthusiast!
Quote from: MarkT on August 27, 2019, 03:47:37 PM
I usually substitute a different word for enthusiast!
Ho, ho, ho. I am having fishing gear withdrawals as I post.
Quote from: MarkT on August 27, 2019, 03:47:37 PM
....... But then I didn't become a tackle enthusiast
aka Tackle ho
Here are 2 sites where you can see Cedros Island weather forecast. Monday is looking good right now after being windy on Saturday.
http://www.surf-forecast.com/breaks/Playa-Elefante/forecasts/latest/six_day
https://www.windy.com/28.173/-115.217/waves?27.941,-115.216,9,m:er6acW7
It is going to be really fun!
Cheers,
Ed
winds are forecast to be 1mph when we arrive on monday.
https://www.windfinder.com/?utm_source=windfinder.com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=redirect#10/28.1840/-115.2562/2019-09-02T18:00Z
more of the same on tuesday. no forecasts past that yet.
Anything lower than Wednesday and Thursday of last years trip will be fine! One mph won't even cause the sweat to evaporate unless we're motoring at a good clip.
Quote from: alantani on August 28, 2019, 12:32:59 AM
winds are forecast to be 1mph when we arrive on monday.
https://www.windfinder.com/?utm_source=windfinder.com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=redirect#10/28.1840/-115.2562/2019-09-02T18:00Z
more of the same on tuesday. no forecasts past that yet.
Hope it is not winds from the south lol. There is a saying here in So Cal and Baja. Wind from the south and fish shut their mouth. But a 1 MPH wind should not effect anything except comfort. It may be time to slow troll those macks.
Have a great trip and I can't wait for the report.
Edit: Alan, have you ever thought about a Mag Bay trip in around the same time frame? I'd be down, just something to think about.
Cheers
Woke up to the sound of a big branch coming down due to the thunderstorm passing threw, it hit our fence. Well I guess I paid my neighbors back for making noise late at night, running a chainsaw in the dark went well. Off to the shower then I hit the road.
Living in a "small town", I'm pretty used to the "late night", or "early morning" noises....at least, in the "big city" it would be "late", or "early", "city folks" use different clocks than "country folk", or "villagers' do....log splitters, chainsaws, mowers, tractors, etc., can be "expected" from about an hour BEFORE daylight, to about an hour "after dark" ;)
Okay fellas, I'm trying to decide between my GF765L with Tib SST8 or GFGR700XH with TRQ30LD2. I think the 765 rig would be better if it's predominately trolling, the 700XH for live bait. Both would be fine for yoyo.
Jack
Either rod would be fine. You'll be using Mac's for bait and a lob will get them out and they'll take it from there. I've used a 6465h and a 6470h in past years. I'm using a Phenix phd760xh this year.
Traffic!
Dinner at Miguel's Cochina!
Breakfast at Denny's!
Have a great trip Alan! I'll be looking forward to your report on what worked and what didn't.
I'll be there in 2 weeks with Cedros Kayak Adventures.
Brian
On the way!
If a list is not already started and a slot available, I'd like to join team Tani in Cedros in 2020....
Made it back to GA. Had a great time with all the guys. The fishing at Cedros was not as good as last year. The Tani hospitality was great.
GA Mike
so this was our second year with cedros sportfishing. i can't say enough great things about the operation, but believe me i'm gonna try! it's a dozen guys all total. mike comes in from georgia, lee from oregon, and todd from british columbia. the rest are san francisco bay area and southern california. mike and lee came down to my place a few days ahead, to i took the opportunity on friday to show off a little of our local fishing out of half moon bay! thanks to khanh for being our deckhand!
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https://youtu.be/pHkbp9zqxqo
we had a full day to prep for the trip on saturday. marc joined us that evening, and we headed out early sunday morning. traffic in southern california was miserable, as usual.
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everyone got situated at the vagabond hotel, then we were off to dinner at miguel's!
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most everyone was pretty tuckered out from all the travel, so we turned in early. monday we were all up early for breakfast at denny's!
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then it was off to the cbx, or cross border express.
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this is one of the organizational features of cedros sportfishing that really makes a difference. rosie meets us at the cbx with all of the needed paperwork. we gather up all of our gear into carts and she shepherds us through the gate. all of the paperwork is done ahead of time and we walk right through.
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we leave rosie at the gate , take the elevators up, walk across the border and into tijuana on an elevated bridge, then take elevators down to customs.
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once through customs (no photos allowed), we walk right out into the airport in tijuana. we are met by more cedros sportfishing staff that check our luggage and they escort us to the departure gate where we wait for a bit. when the plane is ready, we hop a bus for a short hundred yard ride to the plane. we were wheels up in 10 minutes.
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the flight to cedros is two hours. not alot to see until you get to the island!
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https://youtu.be/wcIJnkyzMvQ
our translator, richard, will be hobbling around all week with a bum leg. he still managed to greet us with an ice chest full of cold beer for the drive to the lodge.
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we dumped out gear into our rooms and started rigging up. we had arranged to get four hours of evening fishing in. i was barely able to get the guys together for a photo.
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the lodge still looks great! if you want to see some photos of the compound, check out last years post!
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=26573.0
i fished with peter that first day and we stuck 7 fish on surface iron. lots of work, but lots of fun!
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dinner was great as usual. flor does a great job.
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the evening view is just as spectacular as ever!
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and mornings come just as early! it's mostly coffee for me.
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fishing over the next three days was slower than last year, but still just as fun.
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https://youtu.be/7h7dozwN0Ts
https://youtu.be/X8wXeL5O5oI
https://youtu.be/hs55-wOFW7A
we had made a special request to have yellowtail collars for dinner for the third evening. the ladies probably though we were crazy, but it was really tasty and it's actually my favorite part of the fish!
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todd's just jealous......
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for our final dinner, we had steaks!
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on the morning of our last day, we flew home.
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the heaviest guys got to ride in front!
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we said a quick goodbye to security.
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and a quick goodbye to richard.
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and we were on our way home. another great trip!
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ok, so a couple of things about the operation. it's really, really nice!!! think about what most small mexican fishing villages must have been like about 30 to 40 years ago. well, that's cedros. they are also working very hard to dial in the operation. there were a couple of things about last year that we commented to rosie about and made some special requests for this year.
we fished two guys per boat instead of three. we had to pay extra, but it worked out great!
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last year, we were sitting on hard fiberglass most of the time. we had requested seat cushions on the boats. we got them!
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we had requested rod holders on the pangas. got 'em!
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we had requested lots of ice. we got a half dozen bags instead of one.
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and we had requested that the fish be gutted and gilled at sea, immediately after being caught. the captains probably thought this was unnecessary, but it was pretty easy for them. and the quality of the fish we brought home was amazing!!!! i'm certain that it was so much easier for the guys that were cutting up and vacuum packing the fish as well. and it also made it quick and easy to take the collars. normally, i think they would just throw them away. now that they have seen how good the collars really are, i'm hoping that they will not waste these valuable pieces!
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not sure how many companies would be that responsive, but these guys definitely are!
as far as the fishing went, it was slow. we picked up fish with surface iron, fly lined mackerel, slow trolled mackerel, and rapalas. different things worked better for different guys on different days. the only concentration of fish and bait we saw was on the very first afternoon when we went out for a half day. even calicos were scarce. red weedless swimbaits are usually one cast, one fish. not this time! it just means that i'm going to have to plan better for next year!
all said, cedros island is an absolutely magical place! i'll just leave you with a few short videos for you to enjoy!
https://youtu.be/6ViLoD7ZRvM
https://youtu.be/UyhP671lZM0
https://youtu.be/_fDMpHH9_h0
we are already booked for next year! alan
Wow ! Great trip !
fun time. We caught some exotics ......................... at least for me. Looking forward to trying the SH and White fish.
Cheers:
GOATS-ARE-GOOD!!!
The Man
White fish taste quite similar to Yellowtail. They call them poor mans yellowtail on the local boats.
Try steaming the sheephead.
Place fish on rack above water. Add Old Bay seasoning to water and maybe some lemon or lime. Not too much on the seasoning or citrus. Steam until the fish flakes with a fork.
Poor mans lobster.
Quote from: Hardy Boy on September 11, 2019, 05:41:59 PM
fun time. We caught some exotics ......................... at least for me. Looking forward to trying the SH and White fish.
Cheers:
mi Wife loves white fish more than YT
when I have the luck to catch some, we always prepare it as sashimi, not the normal sashimi way or japanese style, its more a cross style of Baja style ceviche and sashimi.
we cut it as for sashimi, but use lots of lemon juice as for ceviche, let the lemon juice work on the fish for 15-30 minutes and stir.
then use salt, pepper, red onion, avocado and ponzu sauce over the fish and some of your choice of hot sauce or fresh jalapenos, your choice.
we missed the avocado but pretty similar to this tostadas which were prepared on the panga
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Alan, great report, awesome time
I also love YT collars, normally I always get the whole YT and processed at home, collars, upper loins, lowe loins, head, etc all in separated bags
I am making whitefish ceviche right now.
I didn't come home with any Whitefish but I did get a couple of bags of Calico which is just wrong!
So far I've seared the Whitefish and served it with a Mango Salsa; Yellowtail Sashimi; and seared Yellowtail with a brown butter lemon sauce. Any recommendations for the Grouper?
Quote from: Keta on September 11, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
I am making whitefish ceviche right now.
I envy you Lee. enjoy
Quote from: Marc Fong on September 11, 2019, 10:41:40 PM
.. Any recommendations for the Grouper?
I like to get the fillets from the grouper and fry them on half butter half olive oil, pour some some white fluor or cornstarch on the fillets before put them on the hot butter to get a crispy coat on the fillet, once the fillet is crispy you can have it like that, or add some "pico de gallo" veggies over the fillet, or prepare some Alfredo sauce and cover the fillets with that and add some mozzarella cheese over that, my kids love the fish this way.
Grouper is also great deep fried on big thick chunks
Hi Mark,
I've cooked it in foil with fresh ginger, soy sauce, a splash of sesame oil and spring onions. Most important thing is not to over cook it or it gets tough. My favorite way was to drizzle olive oil and a little Cajun seasoning. Put it on a hot BBQ. Watch is closely and take it off when it is still translucent in the middle. Let it rest while it finishes cooking. Really moist and delicious!
Cheers,
Ed
I wasn't the only one that took a siesta while fishing Cedros!
GA Mike
The small piece of grouper I had got rolled in Panko and pan fried in olive oil and butter for my wife, she does not eat ceviche, and I tried it....IT WAS DELICIOUS!
I took a nap or two on the boats in the afternoon too Mike.
yeah, that nap really saved me! one of my superpowers is the ability to all asleep anywhere! ;D
Cedros island looks like a great place. Too bad the fish did not cooperate for you guys this time. I need to get down there one of these years.
Smols
Quote from: Keta on September 12, 2019, 11:52:39 AM
The small piece of grouper I had got rolled in Panko and pan fried in olive oil and butter for my wife, she does not eat ceviche, and I tried it....IT WAS DELICIOUS!
that kind of publicity is not good for the groupers !!
I would not say that the fish did not cooperate; they did just not cooperate on the scale that they did last year. Every one came home with a cooler full of fish. We just did not catch as many YT as last year but everyone got into fish. Last year it was a slow troll with bait that hammered them. This year I caught more on the surface iron which was really cool. I'm not sure about the other guys but I like chasing different species of fish especially after the morning bite is over ........................... you never know what you will catch with a live bait on the bottom.
No naps for me and I was one of the "party crowd" that stayed up past 9 pm !!!
Cheers:
Todd
Imagine that, the Canook stayed up late! I bet the Mook was right there withyou?
The Man
Quote from: Marc Fong on September 11, 2019, 10:41:40 PM
So far I've seared the Whitefish and served it with a Mango Salsa; Yellowtail Sashimi; and seared Yellowtail with a brown butter lemon sauce. Any recommendations for the Grouper?
I like a lot of my fish grilled on the BBQ. Just baste with lemon or lime garlic butter before placing on the grill and a few times while cooking.
No one mentioned the flood! The input line to the water pump came loose one evening after most people were in bed and all the water for the complex drained out on the floor of the store room next to the Casitas. We couldn't find the shutoff valve until all the water was gone. It was a couple of inches deep so up to the top of Richards ankles! We used brooms to get all the water out. We had to use buckets of water to flush the toilets the next morning until they could get a water delivery to fill the cistern back up again.
Quote from: Hardy Boy on September 12, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
I would not say that the fish did not cooperate; they did just not cooperate on the scale that they did last year. Every one came home with a cooler full of fish. We just did not catch as many YT as last year but everyone got into fish. Last year it was a slow troll with bait that hammered them. This year I caught more on the surface iron which was really cool. I'm not sure about the other guys but I like chasing different species of fish especially after the morning bite is over ........................... you never know what you will catch with a live bait on the bottom.
No naps for me and I was one of the "party crowd" that stayed up past 9 pm !!!
Cheers:
Todd
Yeah, it was only the yellowtail that didn't cooperate to last year's level. I caught more calicos this year than last, and RichK and I limited on nice grade sheepshead one afternoon after we gave up on the yellowtail. And Pete caught a nice WSB, and Mook caught a hefty BSB, in addition to a few groupers. So overall the fishing was okay, just not as many yellowtail as we got used to last year. The pangueros said that it was unusual for the YT to shut down like that at this time of year, so I expect that next year will be back up to par.
Quote from: scrinch on September 12, 2019, 05:42:01 PM
The pangueros said that it was unusual for the YT to shut down like that at this time of year, so I expect that next year will be back up to par.
way up north in the Cortez Sea, Gonzaga Bay area, the YT was pretty slow this year and I mean slow, many friend had to change the fishing grounds 3hrs more south to "Bay los Angeles" to fish for YT, hopefully it was only a one-year-thing and they come back as usual next season which start in late nov or early dec.
the group out yesterday was limited out. looks like we were off by a week.
A comment on the fish:
- steamed up some of the sheeps head for fish cakes which were great !!< and then made a sandwich with the left over flakes and I have to say that Mook was right !; it tastes like lobster !! Very good. I will have to target some of those again this year again. Picture attached .................. I don't know who is uglier !
- on the calico bass ; wow are they ever good which is not surprising as they are in the "grouper" family. They are my wife's favorite fish from Mexico. Seared or breaded wow !....................... sorry Mark but a few of those will be making the migration to Canada again this year (no big ones though !) .
Cheers:
Todd
Hi Alan, this is Lee, Bill's better half😆, That was an Awesome overview of the trip made me even consider setting Bill up for it next time just so I could tag along! Fabulous job I really do appreciate all the time you put in to fine tuning each and every trip, such wonderful memories your helping create! You make spending the time & money sooo worth it💝 thanks Alan, Lee Barella🙂
Those Sheepshead are some of the best tasting fish I've ever had from the Calie coast.