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Title: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Maxed Out on October 19, 2018, 07:14:51 PM
 Turns out the "supposedly" good O-rings I supplied with the shift levers were actually junk and will dry out and deteriorate whether the reel gets used or not. Soaking them in oil bath helps them last much longer, but learned that too late.

I now have much better O-rings and will send replacements to anyone that would like to replace the original ones. Please PM your address and how many O-rings you'll need.

 My apologies for the screw-up. These new ones have been tested by me, in prolonged constant extreme weather exposure and still like new

 Here is the old O-rings on the left.......and the ones I'm now using on the right. These can also be purchased at Mcmaster for anyone wanting to have extras on hand, just use the info off the package pictured (click on pic to enlarge)

 Ted
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Darin Crofton on October 19, 2018, 07:45:37 PM
Hi Ted,
I have 5 of your shifters I bought from Mystic, even bought 1 extra o-ring kit for each one.
I made my purchases from them in the last 6 weeks or so, not sure if I have the good
batch or not?
Thanks,
Darin
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Maxed Out on October 19, 2018, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on October 19, 2018, 07:45:37 PM
Hi Ted,
I have 5 of your shifters I bought from Mystic, even bought 1 extra o-ring kit for each one.
I made my purchases from them in the last 6 weeks or so, not sure if I have the good
batch or not?
Thanks,
Darin

MysticParts does have the good ones on any levers sold in last 9 months or so.

Defective o-rings are all on my shoulders and don't want to burden Maureen with the hassle. McMaster-Carr carries them for anyone who wishes to have some extras stashed away.

Ted
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Darin Crofton on October 19, 2018, 08:56:20 PM
ok great, thank you for looking out for everyone!
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Frank on November 22, 2018, 11:15:52 AM
Hate to bother you but can you post a link for the O-rings on McMaster Carr. I can't make out the SKU in the picture and I don't want to order the wrong ones. Thank you!

Frank
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Maxed Out on November 22, 2018, 06:27:36 PM
 Hi Frank, Here is a better pic of the info on the package. I have no clue how to post a "link", and my machinist is the one who ordered the o-rings from McMaster

I can send you replacements free of charge.....just pm your address

  Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 22, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
As usual Ted, you have gone above and beyond the call of duty to take care of your customers.  I have one of your original shift levers on a reel that I have been using heavily for two or three years and haven't had any problem with the O-rings, but I have a bunch of old Pro Gear shift levers that need O-rings and I am pretty sure that the one that you use is the right size.  Is this the correct McMaster-Carr part?

https://www.mcmaster.com/1289n108

Thanks,

Randy
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Maxed Out on November 22, 2018, 07:01:43 PM

Yes Randy, that is the correct O-rings I'm using now

  Thank you very much for posting the link !!

-Ted
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Frank on November 22, 2018, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on November 22, 2018, 06:27:36 PM
Hi Frank, Here is a better pic of the info on the package. I have no clue how to post a "link", and my machinist is the one who ordered the o-rings from McMaster

I can send you replacements free of charge.....just pm your address

  Thanks, Ted

Thanks so much Ted! I just wanted to by a bag full to have on hand.

Frank
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on November 22, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
You're better off using o-rings made of Viton. It's just about indestructible and won't harden or crack.
Tom
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Frank on November 22, 2018, 08:02:53 PM
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on November 22, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
You're better off using o-rings made of Viton. It's just about indestructible and won't harden or crack.
Tom


UGH, I just ordered the other ones.
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Three se7ens on December 10, 2018, 02:18:45 AM
Quote from: Cortez_Conversions on November 22, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
You're better off using o-rings made of Viton. It's just about indestructible and won't harden or crack.
Tom


EPDM is an ideal choice for saltwater and sunlight exposure. Viton doesn't offer any advantages for this use, but does cost more.
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Maxed Out on December 10, 2018, 06:05:15 PM
 Thanks for the info Tom, I'll look into those..... I've been testing the EPDM o-rings for 2 seasons now and fished over 100 days with them and still like new.

We left some of these sitting outside in direct summer sun, then thru wet fall weather, thru winter snow, then thru summer again, and they passed the test in flying colors. 

Ted
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Frank on December 10, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
These are the original one you posted:

008   3/16   5/16   0.176"   0.316"   Durometer 70A (Medium)   ASTM D2000   -70° to 300°   Black   100   1289N108   6.31

Is this also the ones Three se7ens is referring too?

Thanks,

Frank
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Maxed Out on December 10, 2018, 10:03:21 PM
 The EPDM o-rings are the ones I am using now.

pm your mailing address and I'll send you some

Ted
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Frank on December 10, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Frank on December 10, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
These are the original one you posted:

008   3/16   5/16   0.176"   0.316"   Durometer 70A (Medium)   ASTM D2000   -70° to 300°   Black   100   1289N108   6.31

Is this also the ones Three se7ens is referring too?

Thanks,

Frank

Ted, If the ones posted above are correct I already ordered 100. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Three se7ens on December 11, 2018, 03:42:01 AM
Quote from: Frank on December 10, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Frank on December 10, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
These are the original one you posted:

008   3/16   5/16   0.176"   0.316"   Durometer 70A (Medium)   ASTM D2000   -70° to 300°   Black   100   1289N108   6.31

Is this also the ones Three se7ens is referring too?

Thanks,

Frank

Ted, If the ones posted above are correct I already ordered 100. Thanks.

That part number referenced EPDM o-rings, so those are the right ones. 

Viton (as Tom mentioned) will work well too.  But I dont see the extra cost of viton adding any benefit over EPDM for saltwater and sunlight exposure.  Where viton excels is its resistance to a broad range of harsh environments and chemicals, but a reel isnt likely to see much that would degrade EPDM but not viton. 
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Frank on December 11, 2018, 10:55:10 AM
Thanks very much for clearing that up Three se7ens!!!!!
Title: Re: New Better O-Rings
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on December 11, 2018, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on December 11, 2018, 03:42:01 AM
Quote from: Frank on December 10, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Frank on December 10, 2018, 08:06:50 PM
These are the original one you posted:

008   3/16   5/16   0.176"   0.316"   Durometer 70A (Medium)   ASTM D2000   -70° to 300°   Black   100   1289N108   6.31

Is this also the ones Three se7ens is referring too?

Thanks,

Frank

Ted, If the ones posted above are correct I already ordered 100. Thanks.

That part number referenced EPDM o-rings, so those are the right ones. 

Viton (as Tom mentioned) will work well too.  But I dont see the extra cost of viton adding any benefit over EPDM for saltwater and sunlight exposure.  Where viton excels is its resistance to a broad range of harsh environments and chemicals, but a reel isnt likely to see much that would degrade EPDM but not viton. 

I don't worry much about the sun and salt, it's the oils, lubes, and solvents that degrade o-ring material.
Tom