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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Pflueger => Topic started by: Cuttyhunker on February 26, 2021, 08:11:18 AM

Title: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on February 26, 2021, 08:11:18 AM
Have an old Pflueger OHIO 1978 that is a cosmetic mess, but functions smoothly.  I'm thinking about spooling it up as a backup to my old 49 Mariners for grouper trolling in the Gulf.  It's about a Penn 65 in size.  The bridge design is new to me so before I tear things down to check out the drag situation I'm looking for any wisdom, tricks or pitfalls on dealing with the old girl. Thanks.
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 10:24:44 AM
I have about every one of the older Pflueger Schematics except this one right in my hands .
I prob have it somewhere but just can't find it this morning.
Seems like it is pretty simple except I remember the AR spring was kinda tricky and the Silver wishbone thing pictured will go in upside down  but won't work so make a note of that .
I will look later for that schematic but no promises .
If I remember  the SEA KAST,SEA LION and SEA QUEEN were quite similar to the OHIO.
I will Scan one of those in a bit and maybe it will give you an idea of the guts.

Here is a file on the Sea Lion (Might Help )

Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on February 26, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Thanks for the reply, in your experience are the similar sized Pfluegers, like say the Senators, mostly identical internally?  My reel (I suspect) is older than the schematic, mine has 6 posts, the foot screws onto 2 of them, no lock for the handle nut. a black wood handle like the early Penns and the bridge seems to have much longer "horns", though that may be an artist thing, and the eccentric lever is a sigle piece of formed metal with no "barrel" shaped stopper on top.  I started on youtube expecting to find something...zero to my surprise.  Maybe the ORCA library might help as I don't suspect too many of these old girls come across the benches for service these days.
Bob 
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 01:36:36 PM
I have several of those Older Pfluegers and the Schematics some where and they are nuttin like any of the old Penns.
Basically they are simple though except for the anti reverse lever spring as I recall.
Orca MIGHT have a schem if you want to pay the 40 dollar or what ever it is now membership fee plus what ever the charge is to access the file .....I dunno .
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Midway Tommy on February 26, 2021, 03:48:05 PM
Quote from: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 01:36:36 PM
I have several of those Older Pfluegers and the Schematics some where and they are nuttin like any of the old Penns.
Basically they are simple though except for the anti reverse lever spring as I recall.
Orca MIGHT have a schem if you want to pay the 40 dollar or what ever it is now membership fee plus what ever the charge is to access the file .....I dunno .

Just so everyone knows.   :)  Access to the ORCA Library is totally free, as is any information extracted from it, if you are a paid up ORCA member. Pretty insignificant yearly fee, and even less for multi year memberships, for all the information & knowledge one can gain from that organization. Access to the library is only one of the advantages and perks.
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on February 26, 2021, 03:48:05 PM
Quote from: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 01:36:36 PM
I have several of those Older Pfluegers and the Schematics some where and they are nuttin like any of the old Penns.
Basically they are simple though except for the anti reverse lever spring as I recall.
Orca MIGHT have a schem if you want to pay the 40 dollar or what ever it is now membership fee plus what ever the charge is to access the file .....I dunno .

Just so everyone knows.   :)  Access to the ORCA Library is totally free, as is any information extracted from it, if you are a paid up ORCA member. Pretty insignificant yearly fee, and even less for multi year memberships, for all the information & knowledge one can gain from that organization. Access to the library is only one of the advantages and perks.


Quote from: Midway Tommy on February 26, 2021, 03:48:05 PM
Quote from: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 01:36:36 PM
I have several of those Older Pfluegers and the Schematics some where and they are nuttin like any of the old Penns.
Basically they are simple though except for the anti reverse lever spring as I recall.
Orca MIGHT have a schem if you want to pay the 40 dollar or what ever it is now membership fee plus what ever the charge is to access the file .....I dunno .

Just so everyone knows.   :)  Access to the ORCA Library is totally free, as is any information extracted from it, if you are a paid up ORCA member. Pretty insignificant yearly fee, and even less for multi year memberships, for all the information & knowledge one can gain from that organization. Access to the library is only one of the advantages and perks.


Just so everybody else will know . Here is where I got the info I posted about having to pay for the FREE files at ORCA
after you pay the 40 Dollar Membership Fee.

Thanks Midway for clearing that up .I guess I didn't see the part where those were FREE on the page link below.

FREE SCHEMATICS DOWNLOADS FROM ORCA
(https://www.orcaonline.org/product-category/orca-library/schematics/pflueger-schematics/)


And here is a picture of the Page for the Free Schematics



Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on February 28, 2021, 01:11:07 PM
I realize I half mis-posted this, Pflueger yes, spinner no.  ORCA had nothing specific on the 1978, a bit of a surprise as I've run into a few Ohio's.  Again please anyone have any familiarity or advise on this one?
Thanks Again,
Bob
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Wompus Cat on February 28, 2021, 01:32:56 PM
Look up on the Free ORCA SCHEMATIC SITE a Pflueger INTROCEAN 1885.
It has the EXACT  (HORSESHOE SHAPE ) Free Spool Mechanism as your OHIO . It is a simple as can be .....no surprises.
However the INTEROCEAN 1885 has no AR nor Drag .
Your Drag system and A.R. is quite similar to the EARLY PENN 155
and or is the same as the Schem I posted above. The Spring for the AR on your Pflueger is just a WEE Bit different than the Penn is all .
If you can do a Penn 155,113,Senator ,Squidder  then you can fly thorough the OLD PFLUEGER.
IF not send it to me and I will freshen it up for you  just pay the shipping .
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on February 28, 2021, 01:59:01 PM
WC,
Okay that seems straight forward enough, I just gutted a 155 to freshen up a 209 bridge assembly that needed to get done and will now add the 3-155 cannibalized parts to my waiting to get to a hundred bucks "Mystic List".  I'll head over to ORCA and get the 1885 printed out then give it a go.  I wasn't expecting Swiss watch complexity in there just looking for sage advice that I thank you for
Bob 
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Wompus Cat on February 28, 2021, 02:18:04 PM
I did a search over at  orca and found that the PFLUEGER TEMPCO is the same Reel just marketed  under diff number for some reason  from 1950 ish .
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on March 01, 2021, 01:04:19 PM
Thank You again. Will get it downloaded as soon as I get straightened out with ORCA, the site doesn't recognize me as a member, sent off an email to get that fixed.  Have houseguests, so the reel will be sleeping on the bench for the next few days.
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 01, 2021, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Cuttyhunker on March 01, 2021, 01:04:19 PM
Thank You again. Will get it downloaded as soon as I get straightened out with ORCA, the site doesn't recognize me as a member, sent off an email to get that fixed.  Have houseguests, so the reel will be sleeping on the bench for the next few days.

It has been that way for a few months now. The store section got Malwared back in November so you have to reset your password.

Here's the instructions on what you need to do. It's pretty simple. https://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23588

Quote from: Wompus Cat on February 26, 2021, 05:23:22 PM

Just so everybody else will know . Here is where I got the info I posted about having to pay for the FREE files at ORCA
after you pay the 40 Dollar Membership Fee.

Thanks Midway for clearing that up .I guess I didn't see the part where those were FREE on the page link below.

FREE SCHEMATICS DOWNLOADS FROM ORCA
(https://www.orcaonline.org/product-category/orca-library/schematics/pflueger-schematics/)

And here is a picture of the Page for the Free Schematics



Yeah, and if you try to view or download something & you're not a paid member or logged in you get this:
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on March 02, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
ORCA had it in the Pflueger 1960's parts and repair manual, here's the page for anyone else opening up a 1978
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Wompus Cat on March 02, 2021, 02:51:58 PM
Does not show the AR set-up . ?
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on March 03, 2021, 12:48:24 PM
The scan could be better, my bad, 45&46 are the dog and spring.  This was actually easier than a Penn to work on as the AR parts stayed nested in the headplate when I dropped the bridge. Everything is cleaned up and greased, now it's ready to go back on duty as a backup troller for the grouper this coming spring.  Will have to use it to land a few just for the bragging rights with ramp birds.
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 03, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
Once again, Harvey Garrison Library to the rescue.   8)  Way to go, Bob!  :)
Title: Re: Ohio 1978 help
Post by: Cuttyhunker on March 04, 2021, 07:32:49 PM
Here's how the old girl came out with a super glued busted tailplate ready for some mono and the old rod she'll be living on with the tulip tip top to be period correct.  Leather drags loved the fresh grease.  Spins free and easy.  1930's manufacture I'd guess.  Thanks for all the input folks.