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« on: November 01, 2010, 11:02:44 PM »

I'm trying to figure out the Pro Gear numbering system...if there is one.
For example, here's the 541 Classic and the 540 Albacore Special,
 different reels with very close numbering.  Then there's the 461 Wahoo Special and the 441 Classic, again very different. Is there a system to this, like the Newel system or what?

Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 10:33:11 AM »

i never did figure it out........
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 05:18:45 PM »

Yeah, they're a real headache. With some of the models the higher the numbers, the smaller the reel..... Undecided  Go figure.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 11:35:01 AM »

Does anyone know what a Pro Gear Pacifica 2500 would be equivalent to in a Penn or Newell reel?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 11:50:15 AM »

I'm trying to figure out the Pro Gear numbering system...if there is one.
For example, here's the 541 Classic and the 540 Albacore Special,
 different reels with very close numbering.  Then there's the 461 Wahoo Special and the 441 Classic, again very different. Is there a system to this, like the Newel system or what?
Huh?
The old system is somewhat as follows as far as I can tell based on what is in the reels:

XYZ

X - 2 - 2/0 size
     5 - 3/0 size
     4 - 4/0 size
Y - 4 - 4/0 Drags or Gear
     5 - Jigmaster  Drags or Gear
     5 - Larger Drags
Z - 1 - Wide
     0/5 - Regular width
     4 - Narrow

Does anyone know what a Pro Gear Pacifica 2500 would be equivalent to in a Penn or Newell reel?
Thanks, Brendan.
Penn Jigmaster.  It's essentially identical to PG251 except provided with graphite sideplates.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 05:09:56 PM »

Thanks Bryan. I have never seen the ones with graphite side plates. What would be the maximum drag setting for this reel?
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 12:52:49 PM »

Thanks Bryan. I have never seen the ones with graphite side plates. What would be the maximum drag setting for this reel?
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Attach is a pick of the 2500.  Max drag is probably around 12# before the spool flexes and starts rubbing on the frame.  May seem low as I've seen guys with Jigmasters crank them down without binding.  But remember, the tolerances are a lot tighter where spectra should not get between the frame and the spool unlike the jigmasters.


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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 01:29:30 PM »

I have not received the reel yet, but after looking at your chart I think I bought a wide thinking it was a narrow. I thought 501 was a take off on the Penn equivalent.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 12:01:27 AM »

While on the subject of the Pro Gear numbering system, does anyone know the difference between a CS500 and a CS501? Same question about CS550 and CS551. Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 03:03:36 AM »

I have not received the reel yet, but after looking at your chart I think I bought a wide thinking it was a narrow. I thought 501 was a take off on the Penn equivalent.
Brendan, I'm sorry I missed this.  What did you buy?  Based on the chart, what are you looking for?  The CS501 is a narrow reel, but it's not a take off of a Penn.  Max drag is 15# on this reel or you may strip the gears (as I'm told by Alan).  What reel are you looking for based on the numbering?


While on the subject of the Pro Gear numbering system, does anyone know the difference between a CS500 and a CS501? Same question about CS550 and CS551. Thanks
The CS500 is identical to CS501 except the edges are rounding and the frames are polished.  Likewise with the CS550 and CS551.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 08:53:47 AM »

     Bryan, I bought a CS 501. Spool width is about 1 1/4", outside diameter of the reel is 2 7/16". It is actually a bit smaller than I thought it was going to be. I put about 320 Yards of 50 LB. Power Pro and plan on short top shot of 30 to 50 Fluorocarbon. The handle side plate edge is square and the clicker side is eased. I think the gear ratio is 6-1. Its my first Pro Gear reel, my only worry is how small the side plate screws are. Other than that It looks very well built. Brendan.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 09:18:21 AM »

That's an excellent reel.  One of Alan and my favorite reel.  I wouldn't worry about the size of the side plate screws, it's plenty strong for the forces on the reel.  It's an easy reel to re-lube bearings without taking the whole reel apart.  quick takedown.  Enjoy and share the fish that you've caught with it.

On the other note, it sounds like you were looking for a PG255 or PG251.  Penn swapable internals, similar in size with the CS501 and CS551, respectively.  PG255 are scarce, but the PG251 are available once and a while via ebay or other fishing forums.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2012, 03:18:48 PM »

Just completed a quick breakdown and service after about six months of fishing. I'm very impressed with everything about the reel. The only thing I caught this time that I missed with my first service was the nylon washer under the main gear. I just replaced with Carbontex. I own many reels and they have been getting a lot less use. I almost think anything heavier should be a two speed.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2012, 05:43:12 AM »

I've had this sent to me in an email a couple of years back.  Not sure where it came from...must have been an ad from somewhere.

Classic
255 270yds 20#, 5:1 gears
251 350yds 20#, 5:1 gears
545 350yds 25#, 4:1 gears
541 375yds 30#, 4:1 gears
454 300yds 30#, 4:1 gears
440 400yds 40#, 4:1 gears
441 475yds 40#, 4:1 gears

Pacifica
2000 425yds 25#, 5:1
2500 375yds 25#, 5:1
3000 400yds 30#, 4:1
3500 375yds 30#, 4:1

Albacore Specials
280 300yds 20#, 6:1
282 425yds 20#, 6:1
540 350yds 30#, 5:1 or 3.6:1
542 450yds 30#, 5:1 or 3.6:1
461 300yds 50#, 5:1

Oceanus 30 325yds 30#, 4.9:1
Oceanus 40 300yds 40#, 4.9:1

I have the 255/501/251/545/280/540/540L

Albacore Special® Series (Gunmetal is the Standard Color)
** Click on image at left for larger view **

Introducing the all-new Albacore Special® Series. These models deliver and then some. These reels are unbeatable in their class. They feature a new precision-machined and hard-anodized aluminum bridge plate, four ball bearings and one anti-reverse roller bearing, combined with a dog system to create a strong and positive anti-reverse. They have a large manganese bronze alloy main, gear and a heat-treated stainless steel pinion gear.
The smooth oversized drag system of the Albacore Special® Series delivers 30+ lbs of drag pressure, which provides more than enough stopping power needed for almost any saltwater gamefish and yet still remain smooth.
Whether you're fishing for amberjack, albacore, yellowtail or offshore tuna, the Albacore Special® reels are definitely the reels for you and a must on any trip.

Specs
ABS280S-7 - 6:1 Ratio | Wt. 22oz | Capacity 300 yrds/20lb mono - $349.00

ABS282S-7 - 6:1 Ratio | Wt. 24oz | Capacity 425 yrds/20lb mono - $362.00

ABS540S-7 - 5:1 Ratio | Wt. 24oz | Capacity 350 yrds/30lb mono - $349.00

ABS542S-7 - 5:1 Ratio | Wt. 26oz | Capacity 450 yrds/30lb mono - $362.00


The NEW Classic Series has the features which have made the original series so popular with serious anglers, along with the added benefit of engineering enhancements that result from eight years of production experience.
• True one piece machined aluminum frame
• Three screw take down end cap
• Oversized Lubri-drag wet drag system
• Manganese bronze-alloy main gear
• Heat-treated stainless pinion gear
• Heat-treated spool shaft
• Three S/S ball bearings
• One anti-reverse roller bearing
• Hard-anodized corrosion resistant bridge plate
• Limited lifetime warranty on the frame
These reels are "Simply the Best."
Specs

CS501-6 - 6:1 Ratio | Wt. 18oz | Capacity 350 yrds/15lb mono - $199.00
CS5551-6 - 6:1 Ratio | Wt. 20oz | Capacity 400 yrds/20lb mono - $199.00
CS600-6 - 5:1 Ratio | Wt. 22oz | Capacity 275 yrds/25lb mono - $229.00
CS625-6 - 5:1 Ratio | Wt. 23oz | Capacity 300 yrds/30lb mono - $239.00
CS650-6 - 3.6:1 Ratio | Wt. 24oz | Capacity 380 yrds/40lb mono - $249.00
CS700-6 - 3.6:1 Ratio | Wt. 30oz | Capacity 300 yrds/40lb mono - $249.00
CS750-6 - 3.6:1 Ratio | Wt. 36oz | Capacity 300 yrds/50lb mono - $249.00
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2013, 06:36:22 AM »

I sent that list out.  I still have those reels except for the 251 but my 255 has a spare spool plus an extra 251 frame and spool so I kinda still have a 251 if I want one.
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