revo inshore

[Alto Mare]

Wow! Looks like that thing would have desintegrated in saltwater environment.

[Killerbug]

Aluminum does not corrode in salt water, but aluminum can deteriorate by an electrolyte process when another metal is acting as a cathode. In this particular reel, there was no deterioration of the frame, besides where the alu was in contact with other metals.  I am not a metallurgist, and do not know the alloys used by ABU here, but it seems as the Toro series calls for some ekstra attention and more frequent maintenance than the Classic Ambassaduer. 

I think with some frequent maintenance this reel had been fine,  and on the positive side there was no rust in the bearings at all.

[Alto Mare]

Aluminum does not corrode in salt water, but aluminum can deteriorate by an electrolyte process when another metal is acting as a cathode. In this particular reel, there was no deterioration of the frame, besides where the alu was in contact with other metals.  I am not a metallurgist, and do not know the alloys used by ABU here, but it seems as the Toro series calls for some ekstra attention and more frequent maintenance than the Classic Ambassaduer. 

I think with some frequent maintenance this reel had been fine,  and on the positive side there was no rust in the bearings at all.

Yes, I did hear electrolyte mentioned in the past, but will you ever find a reel with only one type of metal?
I think Penn used to use brass on all parts at one time.
I inquired about this a while back, when I was customizing some older Penn reels and combining stainless steel parts with brass parts. What I learned was that the reaction would be  so slow and  that it wouldn't be much of an issue .

[Keta]

Aluminum + SS + saltwater=bad things. 

Look up the "Nobility Scale", the closer metals are on the scale the more compatible they are and they "play" together in saltwater much better.  Try aluminum and titanium is saltwater, the aluminum will bubble as it's ions rapidly move to the titanium.

[Alto Mare]

Aluminum + SS + saltwater=bad things. 

Look up the "Nobility Scale", the closer metals are on the scale the more compatible they are and they "play" together in saltwater much better.  Try aluminum and titanium is saltwater, the aluminum will bubble as it's ions rapidly move to the titanium.

Keta, do you or anyone else have any without?

[Irish Jigger]

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Look up the "Nobility Scale", the closer metals are on the scale the more compatible they are and they "play" together in saltwater much better.  Try aluminum and titanium is saltwater, the aluminum will bubble as it's ions rapidly move to the titanium.


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Keta, do you or anyone else have any without?
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With the trend towards lightweight  reels I'm afraid that corrosion will only add to additional maintenance costs.  Hard anodising
 helps but is not the panacea to salt water environmental  issues..

[Keta]

Keta, do you or anyone else have any without?

If I could come up with a fastener that was strong and compatible with other metals in a saltwater or acid electrolyte I wouldn't be stuck in the mountains of SE Oregon feeding sheep.  Titanium frames and screws would work but $$$$.  Plastics aren't there yet.

[Alto Mare]

Why are you complaining, I think you got the life. Do you make your own cheese? My brother just came back from Italy with a couple of wheels of sheep's milk cheese made from our farmers, so yummy! But you need a glass or two of good Merlot to wash it down .
Keta, I was referring to stainless steel, brass and aluminum. I'm sure every reels have some of it today.

[Keta]

We have the remnants of our flock and not enough to make it worth being chained to the animals.  Right now I'm breaking ice off the water troughs every morning and will soon have to do it twice a day.  I'd rather live somewhere warm and closer to saltwater but we own our place.

[coastalobsession]

Heres a step by step video for the people who want to replace the bearings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkx0XVU_Dpo&list=UUvc3Fd47QtOiPWGGE0p0zPA&index=36&feature=plcp

[redfish12]

Thank you for the detailed breakdown!!! I use mine in saltwater and it was long overdue for a servicing. I opened it up today and found some problems... The bearing under the spool cap was locked up, the spool shaft stuck to the bearing, the kick lever is wearing, and the fiber washer under the drag stack was destroyed. I removed it and replaced it with an extra washer I had from an Abu 5500. It is the right size, but may not be thick enough. I'm having trouble putting the reel back in service but most of that is centered around the fact that I have misplaced the two flat washers that go between the anti-reverse sleeve and the drag click mechanism.

Question, is the 5500 carbon washer thick enough? Anyone know a good place to buy those washers in case I cannot locate mine?

[alantani]

smoothdrag has one that will work. measure out the stock washer and check her website.  she has dimensions listed.

[redfish12]

Thanks Alan! The washer I have will work, but somehow during the repair I lost the washers that go against the anti-revers gear sleeve. Anyone have a good source for these? Not the () washers but the ||.

Also, since I'll be using this reel in saltwater, would it be better to pack my bearings? (I followed the steps to make them all open)

[Killerbug]

Thank you for the detailed breakdown!!! I use mine in saltwater and it was long overdue for a servicing. I opened it up today and found some problems... The bearing under the spool cap was locked up, the spool shaft stuck to the bearing, the kick lever is wearing, and the fiber washer under the drag stack was destroyed. I removed it and replaced it with an extra washer I had from an Abu 5500. It is the right size, but may not be thick enough. I'm having trouble putting the reel back in service but most of that is centered around the fact that I have misplaced the two flat washers that go between the anti-reverse sleeve and the drag click mechanism.

Question, is the 5500 carbon washer thick enough? Anyone know a good place to buy those washers in case I cannot locate mine?

Just a minor advice.  Be sure that your replacement washer has exactly the same thickness as the stock one, or the main gear/pinion might loose some of it's smoothness.  If you do this on a new reel, it doesn't matter, but with a used gear-set it does.

[Killerbug]

Thanks Alan! The washer I have will work, but somehow during the repair I lost the washers that go against the anti-revers gear sleeve. Anyone have a good source for these? Not the () washers but the ||.

Also, since I'll be using this reel in saltwater, would it be better to pack my bearings? (I followed the steps to make them all open)

ABU can help you finding spares, if you are living in the US and Sweden you are lucky, if you are abroad, help you god.  

Regarding the washers, Alan know what size of Smoothdrag washers(they have a number) to use, he send me some and they fit's perfectly on both the Revo Inshore and the SX