Okuma Spinner Drag Sizes

[spearo776]

hi guys and girls first post!!!
i have the okuma salinas SA80 and the newer sa16000. im in the process of upgrading drags to the carbotex as i just found a supplier here to get 1mm sheet as the felt ones have "melted" from long hard running tuna up to 106lbs. there filled with 50lb spectra. great reels, only downfall in my eyes so far are - bearings in spool and roller bearings don't last to long and the felt washers .i'm sure they could easily fit carbotex ffrom factory. i've filled the body of the reels with sewing machine oil, slight resistance in winding but now i don't notice and have no fear of internals corroding.
 

[redsetta]

Hi all,
I've worked on a bunch of Salinas (SA30s, SA55s etc - though all first generation).
They all had a critical flaw in the quality of the alloy used for the transmission gear.
I assume it would've been less of an issue if the reels had been maintained (there's an access port beneath the rear cap for rinsing/lubrication), but every Salina I've worked on had a badly corroded transmission gear which had lost teeth and bound up against the drive gear.
I agree that they're otherwise great reels and have a nice design, but for those not so fussed about maintentance, maybe not the best.
I'd be interested to know if the alloy is better quality on the second generation.
Cheers, Justin

[spearo776]

i did note this , thats why i filled with sewing machine oil

[Bryan Young]

hi guys and girls first post!!!
i have the okuma salinas SA80 and the newer sa16000. im in the process of upgrading drags to the carbotex as i just found a supplier here to get 1mm sheet as the felt ones have "melted" from long hard running tuna up to 106lbs. there filled with 50lb spectra. great reels, only downfall in my eyes so far are - bearings in spool and roller bearings don't last to long and the felt washers .i'm sure they could easily fit carbotex ffrom factory. i've filled the body of the reels with sewing machine oil, slight resistance in winding but now i don't notice and have no fear of internals corroding.
 

I've packed both spool bearings and roller bearings with marine grease, and so far so good.  It will slow the bearing down a bit, and though that this will be an issue espcially with the roller bearing, but when I thought about it more, I'm more concerned with heavy loads on the bearing, where greased bearings are effective.

[bnz]

Cedros 65 - Three #6-7000 and custom cut 34 X 57 mm carbon drags

VS30 - Drag rated 18# with felt washers.  Three 6-113 for in the top stack
One #6-117  custom cut ID 24 mm for under the spool between the spool and drag plate

VS45 - Three #6-309
24 X 45.9 mm (Custom Cut from TLD15 20 X 55 X 1.08 mm or Penn's HT-100 (#6-25) hex 22.9 X 54.3 X 1.3 mm) for under the spool between the spool and drag plate

VS55 - Three #6-309 HT-100
24 X 51 mm (Custom Cut from TLD15 20 X 55 X 1.08 mm or Penn's HT-100  (#6-25) hex 22.9 X 54.3 X 1.3 mm)for under the spool between the spool and drag plate

Bryan, where did you get the material to custom cut your Cedros 65 34 x 57mm drag washer?  I'd love to add carbon drags to my V-65sa but carbontex doesn't make one that big.


For my V-55 and V-45 reels I used carbontex #23 (24.63 x 5 x 1 mm) and #70 (49.15 x 20.35 x 1.16 mm).  You could use the #71 and cut it down.


Dawn at Smoothdrag was able to get me the following to match my Okuma V-40's, V-30, and V-20:

V-40:  44mm OD, 16mm ID, .8 mm thick (x1),  22.5mm OD, 8mm ID, .8mm thick (x3)

V-30:  40.5mm OD 21mm ID, .8mm thick (x1),  22.5mm OD, 8mm ID, .8mm thick (x3)

V-20:  35mm OD, 20mm ID, .8mm thick (x1),  21mm OD, 9mm ID, .8mm thick (x3)



Carbontex washer sizes:   http://www.smoothdrag.com/Carbontex_washer_sizes.pdf

[Bryan Young]

The larger under the spool washer came from either Penn Parts or Dawn.

#9-117 and #6-25 came from Penn Parts.

TLD15 came from SmoothDrag

[conchydong]

Okuma is going to come out with a new reel soon that I think will compete with the Saragosa and it has carbon fiber drags. The RawII spinning reels.
I am looking forward to them.

[bnz]

conchy, the Raw II will still be a step below the VSystem, apart from the carbon fiber drags.  It will still have Okuma's high density gearing and brass pinion gear, just less bearings. I called the guys at Okuma parts and asked them about the Raw and he looked at the schematic and was able to tell me where there were fewer bearings (like one less bearing on the line roller [VSystem uses two there] and on the nut that tightens down the rotor making it a floating shaft [one thing among others that makes the VSystem smoother than the Cedros]). The good thing about it is that Okuma will still use interchangeable parts as they do on most of their reels of the same sizes so that you can probably buy the carbon fiber drags from the Raw II and place in your VSsystem reels.