500/501 jigmaster

[Black Pearl]

MolBasser,
Which sideplates and bridge are you running? I'm assuming Cortez plates...are you running a double-dog bridge?

Yeah, when I put the plates in I switched bridges to a double dog bridge from Smooth Drag (well, they sold it to me I doubt they make it).

I'm gonna go back to the original bridge because the double dogs actually grip at the same time with my gear post.  I was hoping they would alternate and shorten the reverse before locking but no dice.  I will pirate the stainless dog to replace the brass one on my other stainless bridge (why that one didn't come with a stainless dog is sort of a mystery.  I bought it in 2005 and I can't remember exactly what it came with.

And yes.  Cortez plates.

MolBasser

Penn never made a stainless steel bridge in JigMaster. The stainless steel bridge you got from SmoothDrag is from me. You will not be able to use my stainless dog in your original bridge.

[MolBasser]

I got the bridge aftermarket.  I think it was made for a newell and came with the stainless gearpost.  The dog pin, dog spring pin, and dog on this bridge are all brass.  I still have original brass bridge.

Is there a known issue with cortez plates and the double dog bridge?

MolBasser

[Alto Mare]

I got the bridge aftermarket.  I think it was made for a newell and came with the stainless gearpost.  The dog pin, dog spring pin, and dog on this bridge are all brass.  I still have original brass bridge.

Is there a known issue with cortez plates and the double dog bridge?

MolBasser

All bridge come with a stainless steel gear post, brass and stainless.
I only know of 3 bridge, Penn, ProGear ( a while back) and Prochallenger.
The only double dog stainless steel bridge out of the 3 is the Prochallenger bridge.

Yes there is a small issue with the accurate plates, Tom's plates are very close to accurate, so there will also be the same issue using his plates.
One of the dog hits a little, it is actually workable, but you could feel the small bump. This should eventually work itself out, but you could take care of it by shaving 1/32" where I'm showing.

If your issue is with using the brass bridge, this would be the first on me.

Sal

[MolBasser]

"one dog hits" this explains some behavior of the reel.

I think I might solve this issue going back to the single dog bridge.  I'll post pics later.  I haven't been on a real forum in a while so I"m relearning syntax and stuff.

MolBaser

[Reel 224]

MolBasser; If the double dog bridge engages with the two dogs at the same rotation of the gear sleeve, I do not see the problem. It supposed to do that to reinforce the anti reverse with the added Drag system, which is a five stack drag system.

If you want the dogs to alternate then I would figure out how to shorten one of the dogs.

Joe

[MolBasser]

Yeah, that is the answer to the double dog issue.

More importantly is getting the reel to run smooth.  I'll spend some time carefully tracking it down.  It is clearly related to the tight pull on the bridge set into the plate.

MOlBasser

[Reel 224]

We all learn from each other here.
Personally I would keep the double dog bridge, sanding the tip on that dog only takes a couple of seconds.
Good luck with wathever you decide and hopefully it will work for you.

Sal

As I learned from you and others on site. How to modify reels and parts. As you said Sal we all have had experience on the learning curve.

Joe

[MolBasser]

I'm not gonna get crazy till I understand the actuall problem.

It might take a bit of time or whatever, but everything has a reason.  That is why science rocks.

I'll figure it out and get a solution.

MolBasser

[Reel 224]

Good luck, I'm sure you will figure it out.


Joe

[MolBasser]

Its all good.

I like figuring stuff like this out.  One thing is that I'm not on forums much anymore and I need to re-boot my photobucket account... lol.

MolBasser

[MolBasser]

I got the bridge aftermarket.  I think it was made for a newell and came with the stainless gearpost.  The dog pin, dog spring pin, and dog on this bridge are all brass.  I still have original brass bridge.

Is there a known issue with cortez plates and the double dog bridge?

MolBasser

All bridge come with a stainless steel gear post, brass and stainless.
I only know of 3 bridge, Penn, ProGear ( a while back) and Prochallenger.
The only double dog stainless steel bridge out of the 3 is the Prochallenger bridge.

Yes there is a small issue with the accurate plates, Tom's plates are very close to accurate, so there will also be the same issue using his plates.
One of the dog hits a little, it is actually workable, but you could feel the small bump. This should eventually work itself out, but you could take care of it by shaving 1/32" where I'm showing.

If your issue is with using the brass bridge, this would be the first on me.

Sal

This is conceptually strange to me.  All that is, is the "hook" for the dog spring.... It is far away from any other action in the assembly and I have no idea how shaving that bit would do anything.

Also, haven't thought or looked at it enough for that to be a qualified idea..... Just thinking off of my head.  I haven't worked on these reels enough to have any of that set in memory.

MolBasser

[Black Pearl]

I got the bridge aftermarket.  I think it was made for a newell and came with the stainless gearpost.  The dog pin, dog spring pin, and dog on this bridge are all brass.  I still have original brass bridge.

Is there a known issue with cortez plates and the double dog bridge?

MolBasser

All bridge come with a stainless steel gear post, brass and stainless.
I only know of 3 bridge, Penn, ProGear ( a while back) and Prochallenger.
The only double dog stainless steel bridge out of the 3 is the Prochallenger bridge.

Yes there is a small issue with the accurate plates, Tom's plates are very close to accurate, so there will also be the same issue using his plates.
One of the dog hits a little, it is actually workable, but you could feel the small bump. This should eventually work itself out, but you could take care of it by shaving 1/32" where I'm showing.

If your issue is with using the brass bridge, this would be the first on me.

Sal

This is conceptually strange to me.  All that is, is the "hook" for the dog spring.... It is far away from any other action in the assembly and I have no idea how shaving that bit would do anything.

Also, haven't thought or looked at it enough for that to be a qualified idea..... Just thinking off of my head.  I haven't worked on these reels enough to have any of that set in memory.

MolBasser

Hi there,

That is the known issue on that dog when my Stainless steel bridge is used in Accurate's or Tom's sideplate.

[MolBasser]

I got the bridge aftermarket.  I think it was made for a newell and came with the stainless gearpost.  The dog pin, dog spring pin, and dog on this bridge are all brass.  I still have original brass bridge.

Is there a known issue with cortez plates and the double dog bridge?

MolBasser

All bridge come with a stainless steel gear post, brass and stainless.
I only know of 3 bridge, Penn, ProGear ( a while back) and Prochallenger.
The only double dog stainless steel bridge out of the 3 is the Prochallenger bridge.

Yes there is a small issue with the accurate plates, Tom's plates are very close to accurate, so there will also be the same issue using his plates.
One of the dog hits a little, it is actually workable, but you could feel the small bump. This should eventually work itself out, but you could take care of it by shaving 1/32" where I'm showing.

If your issue is with using the brass bridge, this would be the first on me.

Sal

This is conceptually strange to me.  All that is, is the "hook" for the dog spring.... It is far away from any other action in the assembly and I have no idea how shaving that bit would do anything.

Also, haven't thought or looked at it enough for that to be a qualified idea..... Just thinking off of my head.  I haven't worked on these reels enough to have any of that set in memory.

MolBasser

Hi there,

That is the known issue on that dog when my Stainless steel bridge is used in Accurate's or Tom's sideplate.

OK!  Cool.  I have something to do now with my dremel.  I'll do that presently.

MolBasser

[MolBasser]

And Black Pearl,

At no time was I ever dissing your bridge or anything.  Just trying to get stuff put together.

I appreciate all those that work hard to make aftermarket parts that improve performance and make a better tool.

I'm just a newbie, so my installs need a bit more love and understanding as I'm not an old salt on reel repair.

MolBasser

[nelz]

I read somewhere here that the double dog bridge will engage the dogs differently depending on which gear sleeve is used (SS or stock). With one it alternates, the other engages simultaneously. Not sure which does which.