alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial 114h upgrades for grouper
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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2017, 12:39:20 PM »

I've built a few for people using the Penn half frame found on the 114HL reels. The solid aluminum half frame. If you can find one of those reels on the auction site.

A Penn steel gear will work also.

The drag Insert from Motive Fab is the way to go on these reels. Nothing else beats it.

Is this the Penn frame you speak of? I like the idea of a Penn part for the frame. Am I short changing myself not getting this Tiburon Frame? This is $70


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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2017, 01:00:34 PM »

Naw, if ya see one a these, just direct me to it. Kidding. Yeah I'd jump on one like that for $70. Better than both my frame set-ups.
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2017, 01:37:36 PM »

Well, it is on the way. Now, how the heck do incorporate it into the reel? I see no screw holes. I'm assuming it will probably make sense once I have it in hand?
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2017, 01:43:06 PM »

Gfish that is the full frame. The half frame doesn't have the upper part of the frame. The newer Tiburon frames are full frames without the top bar.
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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2017, 01:46:17 PM »

Well, it is on the way. Now, how the heck do incorporate it into the reel? I see no screw holes. I'm assuming it will probably make sense once I have it in hand?
You don't use the inner rings from your plates. The holes are there but there is only 5 instead of 8. You will have to replace the outer rings with 5 hole rings.        Rudy
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2017, 01:47:17 PM »

Well, it is on the way. Now, how the heck do incorporate it into the reel? I see no screw holes. I'm assuming it will probably make sense once I have it in hand?
You don't use the inner rings from your plates. The holes are there but there is only 5 instead of 8. You will have to replace the outer rings with 5 hole rings.        Rudy

Good to know. I will have to find a couple of those. Thanks!

Edit: Would this be what I am looking for? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENN-REEL-PART-2N-114-Senator-114H-Full-Half-Frame-Outer-Ring-B/302268287170?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Da72fdf61782f412a964ad73df8001c85%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D302072168402
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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2017, 01:55:01 PM »

Well, it is on the way. Now, how the heck do incorporate it into the reel? I see no screw holes. I'm assuming it will probably make sense once I have it in hand?
You don't use the inner rings from your plates. The holes are there but there is only 5 instead of 8. You will have to replace the outer rings with 5 hole rings.        Rudy

Good to know. I will have to find a couple of those. Thanks!

Edit: Would this be what I am looking for? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENN-REEL-PART-2N-114-Senator-114H-Full-Half-Frame-Outer-Ring-B/302268287170?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Da72fdf61782f412a964ad73df8001c85%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D302072168402
That's the one but I would offer 5-$6 each. He will usually bargain.
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2017, 01:56:14 PM »

Will do. Thanks!
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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2017, 02:00:06 PM »

That's the left outer, you will still need a right outer.
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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2017, 02:09:31 PM »

Yea I didnt post that link but I did find it.

I have also found a Penn main stainless main gear. Is this just as strong as the aftermarket ones from Scott's?
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« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2017, 04:19:39 PM »

I've built a few for people using the Penn half frame found on the 114HL reels. The solid aluminum half frame. If you can find one of those reels on the auction site.

A Penn steel gear will work also.

The drag Insert from Motive Fab is the way to go on these reels. Nothing else beats it.

Is this the Penn frame you speak of? I like the idea of a Penn part for the frame. Am I short changing myself not getting this Tiburon Frame? This is $70
I don't believe so.
I'm not sure who made those for Penn, could have been Tiburon, but probably not.
In my opinion, the machining on those is much better, not that there is anything wrong with Tiburon, I just like those a little better.
Make sure the screws are well greased when mounting it to the plates.

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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2017, 04:35:54 PM »

I've built a few for people using the Penn half frame found on the 114HL reels. The solid aluminum half frame. If you can find one of those reels on the auction site.

A Penn steel gear will work also.

The drag Insert from Motive Fab is the way to go on these reels. Nothing else beats it.

Is this the Penn frame you speak of? I like the idea of a Penn part for the frame. Am I short changing myself not getting this Tiburon Frame? This is $70
I don't believe so.
I'm not sure who made those for Penn, could have been Tiburon, but probably not.
In my opinion, the machining on those is much better, not that there is anything wrong with Tiburon, I just like those a little better.
Make sure the screws are well greased when mounting it to the plates.

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Thanks and will do.
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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2017, 05:12:34 PM »

Yea I didnt post that link but I did find it.

I have also found a Penn main stainless main gear. Is this just as strong as the aftermarket ones from Scott's?
The original main gear is heat treated steel not stainless. I doubt that you could ever break it. By using the Penn gear it has a lower gear ratio then the aftermarket gears which will be better for winching up a big Grouper.
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2017, 11:56:22 AM »

Yea I didnt post that link but I did find it.

I have also found a Penn main stainless main gear. Is this just as strong as the aftermarket ones from Scott's?
The original main gear is heat treated steel not stainless. I doubt that you could ever break it. By using the Penn gear it has a lower gear ratio then the aftermarket gears which will be better for winching up a big Grouper.

So the original main gear I found was for the 113h. They had the part number as the model number so that made it a bit confusing. I did find a steel Senator 115 main gear. I know the 114 and 115 share the same main gear (part number 5-115) so it would stand to reason stock the pinion will work, correct? I just wanna make sure before I order it.
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2017, 12:12:26 PM »

Yes, use it with the original pinion gear. The original pinion gear is stainless steel. It's a good strong setup. The 114H & 115 share the same main gear. Don't get a 114 gear as it is smaller.               Rudy
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