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« on: July 10, 2017, 10:12:20 AM »

Can someone tell me if the back end comes apart on the cradle rod seat.

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2017, 12:49:53 PM »

Mike not sure which part you are referring to, but if it's the handle that is inserted into the cradle then it is more than likely epoxied in.  The one I worked on was a tight fit and held in place with a nail.  Pretty crude way of doing it.  When I rebuilt mine, I wound dacron line on the shaft and glued it in place.

I would try some boiling water and see if that loosens it.

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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 01:31:47 PM »

If your talking the wooden butt end I think boiling water might swell the wood and make it harder to get out. But a lot of Nep-Tuna butts were fiberglass with rubber grips so depends on material. Post a few pictures and maybe we can help.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 02:17:01 PM »

Mike, most of them are glued but I have seen two that had threaded fittings so you could take the butt off but leave the reel rigged up on the rod, an early version of the Aftco Storabutt.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 06:16:07 PM »

Thanks for the information I wanted to work on the butt section. But the wood is in good shape. It also needs a new Ferell its a early style. I will machine a newer style that locks in place.

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2017, 06:49:53 PM »

Mike I see yours got the Swiss Cheese treatment too....drilled for 349 and 49.....Your butt section is most likely glued in.....a careful application of a heat gun should melt the glue holding the butt in the cradle...CAREFUL is the key word here brother.....unless you do not mind sacrificing the finish on the butt as there does not appear to be any finish on the cradle it's self....Bill
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2017, 07:11:48 PM »

The holes I believe are factory drilled for either reel. I want to anodize the frame. I also may want to change the butt section. One screw broke off and needs to be drilled out. I have a 5-40 heli coil kit coming if necessary. Where do i find a blank that fits the ferell.

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2017, 09:01:09 PM »

Measure the ID of your ferrule. Check out suppliers sites that sell blanks. You will be able to find one that comes close. Use masking tape to get a snug fit, Epoxy the blank butt into the ferrule and you're good to go.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2017, 12:22:36 PM »

Most all the blank catalogs show the butt diameter. When gluing in the rod to the ferrule 2 things to think of. If it is a keyed ferrule make sure you spine the rod to the key. Also scuff up the inside of the ferrule and the same to the outside of the blank. This will allow the epoxy to bond better and have less risk of slipping under pressure. I've always used Rod Bond for this. As long as it is mixed right there shouldn't be any problems.


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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 07:18:45 AM »

Here are a couple of pictures Sheridan sent me of my cradle rod he is wrapping for me.

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2017, 12:51:47 PM »

Sheridan, what are you going to use for the finish? The wraps look superb!

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2017, 02:03:54 PM »

We talked about it and I decided not to use varnish because if the rod was fished the varnish will eventually crack.

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2017, 02:40:05 PM »

Looking good Mike !! Should be a nice looking combo when done !! Whatcha gonna fish for with it ?   John Taylor
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2017, 02:50:45 PM »

Sorry for the lousey pictures, Looks way better in person. On the 3rd coat of color perservre and will get the finish on this weekend. It has some original decals on it. A little tricky to work around. Coming along great.
We've been having random power outages here which is no bueno for the rod dryer.
Hope to be done over the weekend.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2017, 03:03:23 PM »

Sheridan
What type blank did you use it looks old school ??  Beautiful work !   John Taylor
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