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« on: October 24, 2017, 07:27:22 AM »

Shimano's "HAGANE" . . .

https://www.bassmaster.com/gear/shimano-s-hagane-concept

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 07:43:25 AM »

Alan Hawk just loves "Hagane"... as in don't get him started!  It's a concept and philosophy embodying "eternally smooth reeling".  Wow, that's technology that you can really get behind.  That's marketing gobbledygook at it's finest!
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 07:58:43 AM »

Alan Hawk just loves "Hagane"... as in don't get him started!  It's a concept and philosophy embodying "eternally smooth reeling".  Wow, that's technology that you can really get behind.  That's marketing gobbledygook at it's finest!

I was curious and, according to Google "Hagane" means "Steel" in Japanese. As far as I can tell it uses a "precision cold-forging" process.  As for me, I'll sit back and watch for a while, before buying.

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 08:15:51 AM »

In Shimano speak, Hagane seems to be anything that involves cold forging of gears and body... which are aluminum, not steel!  After they came out with that 'concept' they modified the literature for all their existing products to include the Hagane term!  It's just marketing gobbledygook.  Shimano has had great gearing for decades and now (well, since 2013) it just has a new name that doesn't mean anything.  Most (All?) of the reel companies have proprietary names for technologies to try to differentiate themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 08:34:59 AM »

"Don't sell the steak...sell the sizzle"
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 09:30:07 AM »

Hmm . . . Looks like Shimano's "credibility" just went in the toilet !

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 09:51:11 AM »

They started with the 'Hagane Technology' back in 2013 and you just noticed it?

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The "HAGANE" technology Shimano has been heavily promoting is fictitious. There are no breakthroughs or new inventions here, and it's the usual marketing nonsense taken to new heights of vulgarity. How vulgar, you say? Look at how they went back and retrospectively marked existing reels as having that "technology", including the 2013 Stella and even the 6 years old 2009 Twin Power SW!
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 10:10:57 AM »

They started with the 'Hagane Technology' back in 2013 and you just noticed it?

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The "HAGANE" technology Shimano has been heavily promoting is fictitious. There are no breakthroughs or new inventions here, and it's the usual marketing nonsense taken to new heights of vulgarity. How vulgar, you say? Look at how they went back and retrospectively marked existing reels as having that "technology", including the 2013 Stella and even the 6 years old 2009 Twin Power SW!

Yeah, I just noticed it  . . . I'm pretty "old school", preferring my original Daiwa BG Black Gold and 2nd Generation Penn Spinfisher SS spinning reels.  All metal, built to last, easy to maintain & fix . . . Perfect !

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 03:49:52 PM »

And think about all the X’s..!! X this and X that. X Ship. Most all spinning reels have 2 bearings on the pinion gear. X That...
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 04:20:55 PM »

The best that In could make of the Hagane concept is that it broadly translates to "cutting edge".

Just another piece of creative marketing hype although when you start applying it retrospectively, it does seem to smack of desperation.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 10:16:16 PM »

The Gfish "BS-selling it!" Concept: come up with some obscure cool sounding word. Then pepper your product description text with meaningless, hard to define-relative to your product-terms, such as: unique, precision, extreme, tremendously, super-refined, etc.,etc.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 08:18:17 AM »

Abu Garcia uses terms like X-Craftic alloy, Duragear, InfiniMax braking system. They all use marketing gobbledygook.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 04:12:53 PM »

Well, as far as I'm concerned, all of the "hype" and outright "BS" is strictly "Kinjite"  !

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 04:35:18 PM »

Marketing BS. I haven't got time for it Tongue
Time and experience will tell as it always has.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2017, 12:36:04 AM »

It's part of reel making culture.  They've been coming up with that crap for over a hundred years.  New manufacturers, new gobbledygook, same old ploy.  Hey.... wait a minute.  Maybe it's the reel buyers making them do it.
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