Shimano Triton Stardrag 3GT - standard servicing...

Started by redsetta, July 18, 2011, 08:08:14 AM

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redsetta

G'day lads,
Here's a nice little three-sized reel that's got the simple, robust design of the TLD series, an open spool (ie no top bar) and good-quality materials that mean it'll last well and handle a good bit of use/abuse...
First up, off comes the handle nut plate and screw, followed by the nut.



Undo the star drag and you'll find the handle washer above and the star drag washer below.



Unscrew all four frame screws on the handle side, then locate and undo the two little screws that back onto the main gear housing.



Off comes the right side plate... The bearing is likely to have come away with the side plate, so push it through and set aside for cleaning, lube etc.
Undo the four left side plate screws and remove the plate. This will allow the removal of the spool assembly.



Hook out the spool bearing housed in the right side of the frame.
Dismantle the drag plates and check for damage, corrosion or wear.



Likewise, check all the internal components for wear etc, then clean.
If you're inclined, clean both side plates and the frame thoroughly and apply a thin coating of marine grease to the internal surfaces.



With the aid of Cal's drag grease, reassemble the drag plates as per the following order...
Anti-reverse ratchet (and pawl/spring assembly), followed by the drive shaft washer, ie the smallest fibre drag washer.
Main gear next, then the eared fibre washer, eared washer 'B'.



Keyed metal washer ('C') next, then the black drag washer ('I').
The eared metal washer ('E') is next - be sure to face the ears downwards into the drag stack.
The last fibre washer ('D') is on next.



Slide the last keyed washer ('F') into place and the drag washer assembly is complete.



Slide the yoke plate into place, followed by the yoke and pinion, and finish off with the springs.
Grease only the external surface of the pinion and use a little ReelX (or similar) on the inside.
Apply a little grease to the eccentric and slide into place.



Fasten the eccentric lever and, using a smal pair of pliers, push the eccentric spring into a 'tensioned' position as indicated.



Apply a small amount of grease to each of the bellevilles (aka drag spring washers) and reposition in a ()() formation.



Replace the bearing thrust washer and refit the cleaned, relubed bearing above it.
I've removed only the lower shield on this bearing.



Here's the internal assembly once complete.
replace the right side plate and be sure to align the eccentric lever and the yoke plate before fastening down.



Replace all four side plate screws and fasten down. I also added a bead of grease around the top of the ball bearing, which isn't shown here.
Replace the two smaller side plate screws to fasten down the main gear housing.



Replace the star drag washer and star drag.



Brush a little grease around the 'O' ring and slide the handle washer into place.



Replace the handle nut, plate and screw.
Replace the line guard and screws, following the application of a little grease under the guard and in the screw holes.



Paint a thin layer of grease on the sides of the spool and slide the spool bearing into place.
Once again, I try to keep the shaft free from grease and use a little bearing lube instead.
Apply a little grease to the inside of the left side plate, including around the click spring, which attracts salt/corrosion build-up.



Replace the last four frame screws and give the reel a good buff and polish with a clean rag.
Job done...



All the best, Justin
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wallacewt

those drag washers dont look right,are they carbon fibre?

redsetta

#2
No, they're standard - the white ones are a cloth fibre/weave (Shimano call them 'titanium').
I'm unsure what the black one is.
The owner is fishing the reel this week, but the Carbontex won't arrive (in NZ) for a couple of weeks ...
By the way, I just realised that the 3GT is basically identical to the TLD 15/30, which Alan's already covered.
Apologies for the duplication.
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akfish

I'm curious: Why is it necessary to apply a thin coat of grease on the inside of graphite side plates? I do that, of course, with aluminum plates but didn't think it necessary with graphite side plates.
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redsetta

While the graphite obviously won't corrode, the surface isn't smooth and can attract salt build up.
Bryan commented on this once before:
QuoteSalt tends to stick to graphite frames, probably because it's not a smooth surface.  By greasing, it does not allow the salt water to stick to the frame, and slides out through any of the openings in the reel.
Post: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=710.0
Cheers.
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basto

Quote from: redsetta on July 18, 2011, 10:32:40 AM
No, they're standard - the white ones are a cloth fibre/weave (Shimano call them 'titanium').
I'm unsure what the black one is.
The owner is fishing the reel this week, but the Carbontex won't arrive (in NZ) for a couple of weeks ...
By the way, I just realised that the 3GT is basically identical to the TLD 15/30, which Alan's already covered.
Apologies for the duplication.

The only difference from the TLD 15/30 besides the badging is the body colour is slightly lighter on the 3GT.
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Irish Jigger

Another great tutorial Justin,thanks for sharing.

Jimmer

AK- that thin coat of grease will catch and hold sand and tiny metal particles away from the gears. We used to apply a light film of grease to the inside of the air filter box on dirt bikes to do the same thing.
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Bryan Young

Justin,

I never saw this posting before, even though it was done almost a year ago.  Very nice and thorough.

Thank you for sharing.

Bryan
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

alantani

if you still have that reel, find a place to scratch the frame and side plates on the inside and i think you will find that they are graphite, made to look like aluminum.
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

redsetta

Cheers lads - it's a nice little reel.
Will have to get one of my own at some stage...  ;)
All the best, Justin
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LBG Saul

Nice I have offered to service my brothers 4GT so will pull it to bits tomorrow. At a glance, the internals actually look very similar to my Daiwa SL20SHB

Ken_D

Hi.. is it you or is it me? I'm on firefox xp sp 3, and all the images on the RH side, are chopped, so they are only partly there.  I am attempting to re-assemble a wee triton 200, where the fellow took off the arm controlling the eccentric spring, and your tutorial's photo of this step is one of the ones chopped so it's of no value here. I suspect your tutorial will be good for the 200, if only I could see the pic. :(

redsetta

G'day Ken,
Sorry to hear the photos are cropped.
I'm on Firefox as well, but can see the pics in all their glory ;)
The eccentric lever and spring are basically identical to the Penn system, so should pose no significant issues to reassemble.
Alan's 113 tutorial is almost the same: http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=208.0
Hope that's of some assistance.
Cheers, Justin
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Ken_D

#14
Hio, Regretfully, no. That Shimano Triton 200 spring and arm, have won. I have spent over two hours trying every which way to get it re-assembled. I received the reel in baggies.
I have another post looking for help, in a post on the triton 200.  Penn, and Abu re-assembly times have been in the order of 10-15 minutess first time seen, and after joining AT's site here, and seeing pics and tutorials, no time at all.   Bada boom.
I am going to take a hard look at this image, where the human hand is, and see if it's close.



Cheers, Ken.