4:1 gear ratio for a Penn Squidder

[reel man]

Many, many moons ago Penn came out with a pinion and main gear that bumped up the gear ratio of the Squidders to 4:1, but after testing ran into some mechanical difficulties on their test reels, so after much deliberation decided to not make these gears available to the public, but some of them got out the door, and would be a great find.

If there were enough interest I'm sure there's a gear cutter out there that could make these.  Don't know what mechanical probs Penn ran into, but whatever the prob was it could be corrected ie - yoke, jack plate?

[Maxed Out]

Huge thread recently discussed in length on this exact same subject. Perhaps someone can provide the link to that thread.

  Ted

[oc1]

You can't make the main gear larger because there is not room.  You can't make the pinion smaller because there would not be enough metal in the wall and it would be weak.  The only other way to bump up the ratio is to change the number of gear teeth, primarily on the pinion.  When you do this the teeth cannot mesh as deeply (they're just catching the edges) and both main and pinion are weakened and susceptible to being stripped.  You can't get there from here without reconfiguring the head plate with a drop-down to make more room.
-steve

[Alto Mare]

There might be a way.

[Bryan Young]

it may be possible with small teeth, helical cut gears.  I think Shimano went this route allowing multiple teeth contact with smaller teeth to equal the strength of their previous design.

[ez2cdave]

it may be possible with small teeth, helical cut gears.  I think Shimano went this route allowing multiple teeth contact with smaller teeth to equal the strength of their previous design.

Any more info on this ?

Tight Lines !

[xjchad]

it may be possible with small teeth, helical cut gears.  I think Shimano went this route allowing multiple teeth contact with smaller teeth to equal the strength of their previous design.

That seems like it would be pretty costly no?

[MarkT]

The Newell 200 series are magnum Squidders minus the plates!  It has the 5:1 gears and Jigmaster sized drags. They were designed as a souped up Squidder from the beginning.  It's no coincidence that the 220/229/235 are the same size as the 146/145/140.

[Swami805]

251 progear  or an Accurate squidder magnum

[mikeysm]

The only way is a squidder magnum. I have 4.0 gears. The 5.1 have problems with rubbing.

Mike

[xjchad]

There might be a way.

Love to know what you're thinking Sal.... 

[Alto Mare]

There might be a way.

Love to know what you're thinking Sal.... 

Chad, Bri-Bri gave you the same answer I had I wouldn't be worried with smaller teeth on this reel, heat treated gears are extremely tough.

Sal

[xjchad]

There might be a way.

Love to know what you're thinking Sal.... 

Chad, Bri-Bri gave you the same answer I had I wouldn't be worried with smaller teeth on this reel, heat treated gears are extremely tough.

Sal

Aah, ok!   

[Brendan]

Didn't Newell make a 4:1 at some point? I'm pretty sure I put a set in a reel for a friend forever ago.
Tight lines, Brendan.

[Swami805]

If they made them Jerry, the original poster, would have mentioned it, very few have the newell history as him. By the way I got an email from Jerry yesterday,still not 100% but getting better. Good Man