alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial My first Senator
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« on: April 13, 2018, 12:46:40 PM »

The last few weeks I've acquired several different Penns in size, shape, and weight.  Surfmasters, Delmars, Sea Boys, Sea Scamps, Jigmaster, Squidder, Beachmaster, etc.

Learned about level winds with the 9, 209, and 309.

Learned about spiral bars with the 350 Leveline.

Learned about quick takeapart and thumb screw rotation with the Squidder and Surfmaster.


So before I start tearing down this Senator is there any thing different I should expect?



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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2018, 12:47:49 PM »

BTW, I forgot to mention it's a 4/0.  Similar in size to my Long Beach 68.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2018, 01:02:54 PM »

And I forgot to mention the anti reverse only works sometimes.

Also, there is an unfamiliar washer under the star drag.  Huh?


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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 01:11:35 PM »

Yup, the dog spring is shot.


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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 01:28:36 PM »

As I mentioned earlier, I know nothing about Senators, but something looks fishy about the drag stack order?  Plus the eccentric lever is upside down.


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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2018, 01:39:06 PM »

If you did the smaller penns you'll be fine. Not a lot of difference just bigger. The drag stack will be a similar sequence than the smaller penns just more of them. should be a stickied tutorial for one or one that's close enough. Nice reel too
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 01:54:36 PM »

Also, there is an unfamiliar washer under the star drag.  Huh?

It is a spring washer.  Your drag stack is messed up too.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2018, 02:05:25 PM »

Your drag is the same as what came in my 3/0. a  5 stack. This is the way it should be.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 03:08:48 PM »

Thanks fellows, looks like everything is here.  Got her cleaned up but I still need to do some work on the frame posts.  Might find time to get it back together late tomorrow afternoon.

My a/r dog is a little different than your's, Basto.  I have a few reels junked out in plastic bags, can probably find a spring.

BTW, what typical fishing situation is a 4/0 Senator used fo in saltwaterr?  Like my big Long Beach, really it's overkill for freshwater fishing.  There are some mighty big catfish in Tennessee waters but I haven't gotten one over 42 lbs.  TWRA is getting lake sturgeon re-introduced.  There was one stranded in a backwater of the Emory River several years that went 102 lb they rescued.  As of now, there is no record of sturgeon in the state awards book but there have been a few around 8-10 lbs caught.


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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2018, 03:35:53 PM »

Senators are a piece of cake compared to doing a level line or a 350.  The ar dog has me stumped.  Never seen anything like that.....Bill
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2018, 04:34:52 PM »

   Yeah Bill...that AR dog looks suspect Festus...no wonder she don't engage half the time. Let me check my 4/0 parts stash, might have correct dog, I prolly have some better posts I can give you too if you're interested. Cool
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2018, 05:07:13 PM »

   Yep, I have the AR dog and some posts. They ain't perfect, but they're free! Grin


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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2018, 05:08:28 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2018, 05:18:47 PM »

Thanks big time, Mo, I'll take them.  The Penn schematic lists the a/r dog as part no 15-113h, but you know as much as they do, so it'll work.  I can at least reimburse you for shipping.  The 309 parts list says the same dog spring fits my Senator.  I have plenty of 9, 209, and 309 parts and am accumulating some 85 and 285 parts.  Thanks again, I'll pm my address. This reel cleaned up fairly well.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2018, 05:38:16 PM »

The Penn schematic lists the a/r dog as part no 15-113h.

   I think maybe you were viewing the 113H schematic Festus...I double checked and the old 4/0 schematic calls for the #15-99. Here's a link to the schematic:

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