alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Hello All! Dam Quick UL's
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2018, 04:52:15 PM »

hey, I know that red thingamajig on the fore grip
1st one I've seen in use, aside from my own
works better, if its closer to the spool

I see the red thingamajig; what is it?

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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2018, 05:55:08 PM »

Have the bail and line roller, just the catch was broken. There may just be a more technical name for it enlighten at will.

It is commonly known, in the US anyway, as the bail arm.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2018, 05:08:05 PM »

Had the day off with Dr appointments in morning, what to day with the afternoon? Make a bail arm! Hardware store had .070 brass stock same as original broken aluminum arm. Laid out on piece of type paper and glued to brass stock then rough cut with , cmount jig saw. Hand filed to fit then bent in machinist vice. Reel is the smoothest UL in the collection of Quicks and haven't even tore it down to give it a proper lube job yet. It never had much use as timing of bail was off allowing bail arm to hit handle every sixth crank which likely caused failure.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2018, 07:26:48 PM »

WOW! Nice job making that piece, it looks great!

If the bail arm hit the crank handle it had nothing to do with timing. Either the bail arm or bail was bent a little, or the crank arm has a slight bend. It doesn't take much of a bend for them to hit each other, they were designed to have very little clearance.   
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2018, 07:57:35 PM »

Thank you, as suspected the difference in weight of brass vs aluminum creates a slight imbalance. May just play with a few small lead pellets on opposite side of bail, noticeable with the 5:1 gear ratio. Actually cleaned the stock grease from gears and replaced with Lubriplate AA grease, smooth as butter! Who needs all those fancy bearings...
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2018, 02:29:17 PM »

Hi. I almost used DAM Quick as UN too. Great reels. Had a 110, not so good, then got a 110n, a much better real. Also have a big reel for surf, a 550n. Robust and reliable.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2018, 02:57:35 PM »

Excellent craftsmanship, Lon!

Best,

Fred
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2018, 04:36:03 PM »

 Timing issue as mentioned earlier requires just the right amount of compound bend to clear bail and bail arm(line roller). This only occurs due to what I believe by count is close tolerances and 5:1 gear ratio. If chosen gear ratio of design had been 5.3:1 or 4.7:1 by adding or subtracting a tooth on main or pinion alignment would be less of an issue. Every fifth bail flip can create this issue depicted in enclosed pics. Everything has been attended to with a little more filing near/at line roller and reforming of bail wire at least till that fifth flip. Thoughts or just me, simple fix is antireverse flip and back wind to flip.

It only required around 4hrs of hand filing and 2hrs of fitting to make the brass part, good thing I work cheap!


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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2018, 08:51:13 PM »

Timing issue as mentioned earlier requires just the right amount of compound bend to clear bail and bail arm(line roller). This only occurs due to what I believe by count is close tolerances and 5:1 gear ratio. If chosen gear ratio of design had been 5.3:1 or 4.7:1 by adding or subtracting a tooth on main or pinion alignment would be less of an issue. Every fifth bail flip can create this issue depicted in enclosed pics. Everything has been attended to with a little more filing near/at line roller and reforming of bail wire at least till that fifth flip. Thoughts or just me, simple fix is antireverse flip and back wind to flip.

It only required around 4hrs of hand filing and 2hrs of fitting to make the brass part, good thing I work cheap!

Your bail arm is oversize and also enlarges/widens the bend/loop in the bail. Below is my unused 1001 showing the shape of an original bail arm and clearances of the bail to the handle in closed and open bail positions. The last photo is of the open bail just before it snaps shut. There should be approximately 3/16 inch clearance between the corner of the bail arm and the crank arm at that, the closest, point.









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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2018, 11:11:50 PM »

The brass bail arm looks like it is bent.  Shouldn't the line roller be square to the spool when the bail is closed??
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2018, 11:41:50 PM »

Thank you, Tom, I think that a piece of the bail arm may be missing from my original. I fit the pieces together best I could while laying out my pattern. There was a rub mark at same point for I’m previous owner likely a stepped on bent bail wire then as well. Your pictures are very helpfull will fish it till you be long cold winter arrives.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2018, 07:29:00 AM »

Thanks for the help guys! The beauty of brass, straighten out and reform. Tricky to get right but got it..

Now on to an Italian, well used in a saltwater environment. Instant antireverse without one way bearings.


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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2018, 07:42:33 AM »

Nice little Ofmer!

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Nothing happened. The fish just moved away slowly and the old man could not raise him an inch. His line was strong and made for heavy fish and he held it against his back until it was so taut that beads of water were jumping from it. Then it began to make a slow hissing sound in the water and he still held it, bracing himself against the thwart and leaning back against the pull. The boat began to move slowly off toward the north-west.

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2018, 07:57:25 AM »

I see Ofmer is still in business, likely made in the Oreint now. Much prefer the ECO...


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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2018, 11:17:38 AM »

That is a nice job on the custom bail arm, WBLON.  Yeah, it took some time, but you got it.  I need to make one for a Shakespeare I have, and your work encourages me.  Thanks for the post.

Also, welcome to MitchelGarcia, from Minnesota, as I see his first post has been made & a topic found of interest!

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