alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial 541 Need more drag
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« on: August 20, 2018, 05:09:51 AM »

I fished two days for our limited red snapper season on the east coast of Florida, and hooked into a few bruisers.  My Pro Gear 541 worked wonderfully, and I really enjoyed fishing with it.  However, I felt I had to turn the drag star far too many times to get more drag and when I got it cranked down tight I still had to thumb the spool to stop a few freight train runs.  Our bottom fishing for grouper and snapper is straight up and down, a quick hard as you can pull fight before the fish finds rocks or a shark comes along.

I switched out the original cork drag for carbontex smooth drag washers.  The drag was buttery smooth, but I needed a little more out of it.  What would be the best option for me to improve the drag?  I'm thinking since I have to turn the star so many times, I can maybe just squeeze another drag washer in assuming there is room in the side plate.  Could I also shim between the star and the spacer sleeve with an extra washer?
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 05:45:38 AM »

Bryan Young on here has a drag kit to fit that reel I think which should up the drag considerably by using thinner washers. That should take care of it without breaking the bank. Thereís also upgraded internals for the next level upgrades from pro challenger which would be a good idea if youíre really looking to fish heavy. The stock parts are fine as long as you donít go over what they are designed for.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 05:40:44 PM »

Have you checked the drag with a scale, and what test line are you using?? Oh, I almost forgot to ask, how many fiber washers are inside your main gear?
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2018, 05:47:48 PM »

A thicker Belleville on top of the stack or a taller spacer sleeve or just add another metal washer on top of the stack.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 05:56:37 PM »

some pro gears with penn 4/0h based internals came with a 3 stack drag. make sure it has 5 stack (i use og penn washers and carbon fiber drag discs) and like Mark stated, add to stack as needed w/ washers or taller spacer. you should be able to button it down to full lock and back it off to a heavy enough setting.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2018, 02:47:46 AM »

I'm pretty sure I put 5 carbontex washers in, but I could be wrong. I'll check it out this weekend and I'll work on adding/adjusting and see where I end up. Also yes, I do need to actually use a scale and see what I'm getting.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2018, 10:42:53 AM »

Also make sure you clean the slots in the gears meant for the eared washers, if the washers are not sliding in the channels all the way down your drag numbers will be affected. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 11:23:06 PM »

Also make sure you clean the slots in the gears meant for the eared washers, if the washers are not sliding in the channels all the way down your drag numbers will be affected. 

this........   Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2018, 03:17:42 AM »

Also make sure you clean the slots in the gears meant for the eared washers, if the washers are not sliding in the channels all the way down your drag numbers will be affected. 

this........   Undecided

I will check but Im confident this wasnt the case based on how far down the star turned. I had very good drag numbers, but I want a hair more. Also I dont like how far down I had to turn the star, it was excessive.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2018, 05:10:25 AM »

Tried adding a couple different washers to the top of the stack and found a setup that seemed to work well. Don't have a scale currently to test max drag but I'm happy with the adjustment range now.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2018, 02:46:12 PM »

I have an insert style drag kit for the 113H, that also fits the progear reels that use the 113H gears.  I have one in my 545, and was able to get to 45 lbs of drag on a scale.  In more practical terms, its very smooth and functional well through 30 lbs of drag, which is still more than youd likely want to use long term on a reel that size. 

You can see more on the kit here and you can get your name on the signup list here.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2018, 05:40:19 PM »

I find if you place a delrin washer below the star, that helps to turn the star easier, also under gear delrin, Good luck, leave some fish in the ocean for me, cheers Don. this idea was stollen from Sal, so dont give me any ?.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2018, 08:46:00 PM »

In my opinion itís a no brainer..... get a drag insert kit from Adam, motive fab.    Itís the best kit on the market.   Youíve got the skills it sounds like to make a swap.   You will be happy.😁.   Shown below.


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