Drag star backs itself off

[RowdyW]

When assembling & installing the bridge assembly do this. Assemble the gear,correct order of washers, wavy or delrin washer, & spacer sleeve. Then install the star & snug it down to make sure everything is compressed & in the correct location. Then remove the star and install a twisted rubber band or snug fitting o ring onto the gear sleeve against the spacer sleeve. Install the assembly into the plate & snug down the bridge screws. Next remove the band or o ring while holding the spacer sleeve against the drag assembly & install the star. Everything should now have been held in place & drag should now work correctly. This is what I learned from Sal some years ago & it works every time.           Rudy

[Dominick]

Yep! The man is correct.  Works every time.  Dominick

[Frank]

oops!...................Joe

Yes, I have to watch that. Must learn to read what I wrote before posting. Good thing it wasn't a loaded gun - I would have pulled the trigger. lol

[mike1010]

The drag stack was installed properly.  I think the problem may have been that the acetal "wave washer"/spacer tube combination was too short.  When fully backed off, the star was out of contact with the top of the spacer.  So when the star was only lightly tightened down, a little bit of creep would let the star back off fully.  Of course another question is why there was any creep at all, but I wonder if the acetal washer promotes the problem, compared to the stock, metal wave washer.  The acetal has less "give," so on light drag settings, the star is fewer turns from disengaged.  I cobbled together a taller wave washer/spacer combo, will know more after fishing the reel, and will report back.

Thanks again to all who helped.

--Mike

[pjstevko]

Can someone please tell me or post a pic of the correct order for a jigmaster 3 stack??

Thanks

[Reel 224]

The post Fred has shows you the correct way 6&7 ..............................Joe

[Reel 224]

By the way that tip Rudy gave about the "O" ring on the top of the gear sleeve when the assembly is done with the spacer sleeve installed is a good tip.

Joe

[RowdyW]

Can someone please tell me or post a pic of the correct order for a jigmaster 3 stack??

Thanks

pj, the order is CF, KEYED, CF, EARED, CF, KEYED, WAVE WASHER, SPACER SLEEVE, STAR WHEEL, HANDLE.       Rudy

[Swami805]

I was thinking of the newell arrangement With the thin wavey washer between the star and handle. Might be an option if the drag stack is high and not enough space for the thick wavey washer under the spacer

[RowdyW]

I don't ever remember a thick wavy washer being used in a jigmaster. In a 113h or 114h, yes.        Rudy

[pjstevko]

Can someone please tell me or post a pic of the correct order for a jigmaster 3 stack??

Thanks

pj, the order is CF, KEYED, CF, EARED, CF, KEYED, WAVE WASHER, SPACER SLEEVE, STAR WHEEL, HANDLE.       Rudy

Thank you very much!!!!!

Can the wave washer be replaced by the plastic washer???

[RowdyW]

If it's a delrin washer, yes. All others it's better to use the wave washer. But you may have to use the wave washer if you need more height or a longer spacer sleeve.

[oc1]

Mike, is there a chance the star rubs on the outside of side plate or the collar rubs on the inside of side plate hole?  That could make the star back off when the handle is cranked.
-steve

[mike1010]

Hi, Steve.  The star is not rubbing the plate, but the spacer is tight in the plate hole, which is not uncommon with Black Pearl's oversize spacers.  I will investigate to see if that is a contributor.  Thanks.

BTW, the tightness is partly explained by the fact that the gear post is not truly perpendicular to the bridge.  I've seen this on some other reels.  One of these days I will have to try straightening one, though I suspect it will destroy the peen.

--Mike

[oc1]

That might do it.
-steve