What is this rod?

Started by JRD, November 19, 2018, 02:10:39 AM

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JRD

I found a dark mahogany colored fiberglass rod.  Total length just short of 5'6"  There is an octagon section above the fore grip 13 - 14".  It's very very light, I would rate it around 4 - 8lb test.  Rewrapped but a good job and newer cork grips and a light duty double locking collar reel seat.  The cap is glued on so I can't expose the butt section.

Truline???  Im not into spinners but at $25 I figured I shouldn't walk away.

Swami805

Could be a truline, could also be a kencore. Whatever it is that looks like a sweet little rod for 25 beans.
Do what you can with that you have where you are

JRD

I thought so too.  Is there a way to tell from the glass pattern?  Here is a close up.

JRD

If it matters the guides are not round they are oblong

philaroman

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Phillipson?  if so, A STEAL!!!  ...ask here (spinner section; free to join):
http://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=89713fb6a09de453806d52161f9660bc

Swami805

Without a label or marking it's hard to know. Haven't seen enough kencore's to reconize the glass. The best clue will be at the butt but since it's been refinished they're may be nothing there. Bet it will fish nice!
Do what you can with that you have where you are

oc1

#6
The close-up of the blank in your second-to-last photo looks like a 1950's tobacco/travano rod.  You can see the fiberglass weave.  There were a bunch of companies making them including Phillipson, pre-browning Silaflex, Kennedy Fisher, pre-Garcia Conolon, California Tackle, St. Croix, Wright McGill and probably others.

The close-up of the lower hexagonal section looks like split bamboo.  I don't know if they could roll a hexagonal butt section with a round tapered tip because the hexagon wouldn't roll right and the glass would bunch up in the transitional area.  

My wild guess is that it is a home-made hybrid; half fiberglass and half bamboo.  Do you have a photo of the transitional area?  Or, is that at the stripper guide. The easiest way to do it would be to taper off the hexagonal ridges and shape the bamboo so it just fit inside the fiberglass tube for a female-over connection.  The joint could be hidden by the striper guide wrapping

I'd pay twenty-five bucks for that.  Someone put a lot of thought and work into it.
-steve

-steve

Swami805

It's not homemade, Truline made blanks like that for several years,so did Kencore as well as a few others. It was a thing for awhile. I have a few I still fish with. The ones I have are a little different color without the brown flecks in the glass. Truline colors change a little from time to time so it could be.
Do what you can with that you have where you are

JRD

Quote from: oc1 on November 19, 2018, 07:18:53 AM
.  Do you have a photo of the transitional area?  Or, is that at the stripper guide. The easiest way to do it would be to taper off the hexagonal ridges and shape the bamboo so it just fit inside the fiberglass tube for a female-over connection.  The joint could be hidden by the striper guide wrapping

Steve you guessed it, the transition is under the stripper guide wrap.  What's throwing me off is the size and weight.  It's a very soft action until 2/3 of the way down the has a great back bone.  I always read about the big boy octagonal 8-10 footers and first thought this was a broken off tip but the octagonal is there and tips too soft to throw jigs that big with.


philaroman

unsuccessfully hunted for an affordable L/UL Kencore for a while -- never saw hexagonal
they got their premium glass from Japan -- Tenlew Magnaglas
oldest was a darker dull brown (maybe honey, too); later was bright orange (painted?)

oc1


gstours

   Interesting?? ???  Especially the mention of a tite caboose.    ;D

Cor

To me it looks like a Sylaflex blank.   Those were very popular here during the 1960 to 90's, unbreakable!
Cornelis

oc1

#13
Silaflex was rolling blanks about five years before St. Croix but by 1960 they were pretty much competing head to head.  By 1963 Silaflex had been bought out by Browning.  I could be wrong, but doubt that a Silaflex blank would end up with a St. Croix label on it.

Todd Larson has a book on Silaflex history from 1948 to 1963 that may be of interest.
-steve