alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Loop knot for 130-200 fluorocarbon
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« on: January 11, 2019, 12:22:32 PM »

I am looking to try circle hooks this year for bluefin and rather having the extra Hardware of a ring I'd like to try a knot that allow the hook to swing freely. So far I have been told the perfection loop and 3 turn uni. Any other adverse would be appreciated thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 12:58:38 PM »

The perfection loop is a weak knot, the uni could burn the line when it slips.  What problem do you have with ringed hooks?  I ring my own hooks.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 01:07:38 PM »

A 3 turn UNI is used on heavier line by many who want the hook to swing free but tighten up when bit.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 01:42:01 PM »

No problem at all with ringed hooks I just figured that the less gear in water the better
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 02:04:01 PM »

I have become a recent believer in rings, and see very little reason to not use one. With that size line you might consider crimps.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 02:14:18 PM »

No problem at all with ringed hooks I just figured that the less gear in water the better

I don't see it as a problem, the rings are small.  Ron's crimping suggestion works but then you have a small sleeve.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 02:45:40 PM »

Less is more but I don't worry about a ringed hook as opposed to just a knot to a non-ringed hook.  For most live bait fishing I use ringed hooks.  For 'junk' fish or Dorado I don't bother with ringed hooks.  Cheap Mustad 64150's are what I use for them. I use non-ringed Owners/Gamakatsu for school-sized YFT and YT.  I save the designer hooks for bigger/better game that tend to be finicky.  I used non-ringed 8/0 Eagle Claws at Cedros last year and they worked just fine. It was the 3rd trip there that I used those EC's for fishing mac's and they came through again.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 02:55:07 PM »

on the puerto vallarta trips we just use plain 10/0 owner super mutu circle hooks without rings, and a single san diego.  it works fine for us.  it would probably be ok for you.  less to go wrong. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 03:41:46 PM »

Alan I always thought with a circle you needed a ring or loop know to allow the hook to swing?
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 03:52:05 PM »

A ringed hook is not needed when using larger baits.


Cheap Mustad 64150's are what I use....

I ring them, they are a good hook.



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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 04:40:53 PM »

 I crimp anything over 100lb. test. That's just my preference though.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 05:01:34 PM »

Crimp is your best option for a strong free swinging loop at those line weights. Otherwise I guess a Rapala knot, but they will be very hard to tie.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2019, 08:20:09 AM »

I also concur and crimp most everything from 80 lb test up. Using the very Smallest crimp possible for size floro your using. Use a Quality crimpimg tool too!
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2019, 06:39:05 AM »

Any strong knot will be bulkier than a crimp, even if you use two crimps for insurance.
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