Decision time. BG2500 vs SS700. Please help!

Started by JasonGotaProblem, November 29, 2020, 02:23:35 AM

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JasonGotaProblem

So I knew these reels would be small. But wow. This is a seemingly brand new but well priced one that I bought as a christmas present for a friend. That I will get to practice on his before messing with my own is entirely coincidental...
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

oc1

That 's really small in the hand.  The SS700 line capacity is larger than the Diawa Mighty Mite.
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philaroman

pls. do a 700/850 side-by-side, when you can

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: philaroman on December 22, 2020, 12:30:29 PM
pls. do a 700/850 side-by-side, when you can

Will do. In comparing schematics they seem very similar. One difference is the 850 has a line roller bearing. I'm sure there's others as well. The 850 wont arrive for a few more days but I'm already super excited.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

JasonGotaProblem

#49
So the nature of the conundrum has changed. Namely which to fish first.

Merry Christmas everyone
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

thrasher

Very nice, why pick one when you can have them both  ;D
You are getting a nice collection of Daiwa reels there

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: thrasher on December 26, 2020, 02:45:23 PM
Very nice, why pick one when you can have them both  ;D
You are getting a nice collection of Daiwa reels there
I may need to change my user name...
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

philaroman

OK, you're now JasonNeedaFen   ;D ;D ;D
...or some equally prized piece of UL/L/ML vintage glass
IMHO, BEST for zero-stretch and, of course (Catch 22.0)
LEAST likely to have braid-worthy, desirable guides
so it's a DIY or sniping Project -- just the way you like it  ;)

Happy/Merry

JasonGotaProblem

Would it be cheating to get a modern one?
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

philaroman

apples & oranges...  premium thin-wall glass just has a different feel
closest modern "deal" would be rebuilding the 1/2-price flyrod:
https://www.fishusa.com/Fenwick-Fenglass-Fly-Rods
(just a blank of that type is >$ from Lami...  still US-made ??? )

oc1

#55
There's certainly nothing wrong with a Fenwick.  But you'll never hear a disparaging word about a Phillipson either and they are getting harder to find:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Philipson-Fly-Rod-205-7ft/303825893545?hash=item46bd6f38a9:g:V68AAOSwiLVf5~dS
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philaroman

here's "a disparaging word": even w/ a missing L, LoL, that rod will get identified & bid-up
Japanese collectors LOVE PhiLLipson glass weLL above all other brands
you don't want to end up on the wrong side of THAT supply:demand equation

JasonGotaProblem

I've never understood the fly rods with spinning reels thing. Not saying everyone who does it is wrong, just saying i don't get it.

Aren't fly rods more of the slow taper super bendy variety? I definitely want a fast taper for my little fellas. I've never been a fan of the noodle rods.

Also turns out modern Fenwick is a "pure fishing" brand, leading me to suspect that $100 is just for the name when it's really just a chinese rod. Is that a correct interpretation?
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

philaroman

Quote from: JasonGotaPenn on December 28, 2020, 03:14:38 PM
I've never understood the fly rods with spinning reels thing. Not saying everyone who does it is wrong, just saying i don't get it.

Aren't fly rods more of the slow taper super bendy variety? I definitely want a fast taper for my little fellas. I've never been a fan of the noodle rods.

wait 'til you hook a few pigs w/ your downsized, sporty tackle...  if you find yourself badly outgunned,
consider going more glassy/bendy/forgiving/durable, rather than heavier in power
doesn't have to be glass, per se -- if Fast/XFast high-modulus is too fragile for your application,
Mod/Fast IM-6 might be "glassy enough"...  and cheaper, though harder to find w/ good components



Also turns out modern Fenwick is a "pure fishing" brand, leading me to suspect that $100 is just for the name when it's really just a chinese rod. Is that a correct interpretation?

what else can you find new in $100 ballpark?  
PRC is just the biggest Global OEM -- EVER!  ...they make whatever they're contracted to make
half-price Clearance on high-end Chinese is among your best bets for value


philaroman

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Quote from: thrasher on December 28, 2020, 04:10:16 PM
I never got the fly rod used as a spinner either but I did some speck fishing on lake Okeechobee this weekend and get it now. That super bendy is good for jigging specks with the tiny little jigs. I think I'll buy some 10'-14' Mr. Crappie rods instead but if all I had was an old fly rod I would use it for that.


don't rush -- many crappie-rod idiosyncrasies to consider (maybe start a topic)...
what kind of reels?  should have some useful info gained w/ 9', 12', 14', 16' Wally Marshall, et al
(used for anything, BUT crappie   ;D ;D ;D)