113h 4:1 Gears from Ebay- I see a problem

[Joel.B]

I was just sent this reel today, from a guy in Florida- the cranking was rough, loud and stuttery- so much I only turned it a few times before opening it up. Looks to have those fancy new affordable stainless 4;1 gears that are being sold on Ebay. The slot in the pinion for the yoke- tolerance is too tight, I can barely slide the end of the pinion into the slot- my other pinions work fine with his yoke, my other pinions no want to fit into his pinion's slot........

not sure how to proceed, I think he should get seller to send him a new pinion or set. i can use a fine stone and relieve it ever so slightly but i'd rather he got what he paid for before paying me to make them right


I guess these gears are made in Taiwan by an "injector manufacturer"

[Cone]

I hate to hear it. I put a set in a 113h wide and other than being a little noisy they seem fine. I hope the seller makes it right. Bob

[Joel.B]

I see what problem is- the smaller teeth closest to the collar each have a burr on the leading edge from when they were cut. Its like each one had  razor thin edge that folded over.......bad batch I guess.

[Alto Mare]

I popped mine in here:

Idid not have that issue, I was actually impressed with the way they were machined, but do not have a bunch to compare  , I only purchased one set.
The reel is working nicely though.

[Keta]

SS on SS gears tend to be noisy and feel "grity".

The slot in the pinion for the yoke- tolerance is too tight, I can barely slide the end of the pinion into the slot-

I'd rather have it tight and then hand fit it with a file.

[Joel.B]

SS on SS gears tend to be noisy and feel "grity".

The slot in the pinion for the yoke- tolerance is too tight, I can barely slide the end of the pinion into the slot-

I'd rather have it tight and then hand fit it with a file.

As would I but this is not just "tight" the burrs are cutting into the yoke and you cant even turn the pinion with your fingers when on the yoke.   Wife is getting me the "macro" lens and I will try to snap a pic of the issue in a moment

[Keta]

Does not sound good.

[Makule]

I'd rather have it tight and then hand fit it with a file.

I'd prefer to have it perfect to begin with. 

[Joel.B]

OK now I can also clearly see that the pinion teeth are plated in some kind of foil and the plating is coming off

has anybody actually fished these gears and then cleaned and inspected them afterword?  

I think the main gear is fine but don't think these pinions will hold up to much use at all.   The material is very light and soft, and whatever they are plated in has not even held up to being installed and tested.........

[Joel.B]

if you look at the pics in the ebay listing, zoom over the pinion, you can see the one in that pic is almost as bad as this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-1-HIGH-SPEED-STAINLESS-STEEL-GEAR-SET-PENN-113H-4-0-PRO-GEAR-ACCURATE-NEWELL-/360583264281?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f46ff819

[Alto Mare]

I copied the picture so I could zoom it, I didn't see anything. You can only zoom a little,  it gets out of focus quickly. Can you take a shot so we can see what you're talking about?
I measured and weighted the gears before installing them, if I remember correctly, the pinion was a little heavier that the accurate pinion, the main gear was exactly the same. I have pictures and notes somewhere, but can't find them.

[Cone]

I've got old eyes so I couldn't see anything either. I haven't fished mine yet. I guess the real test will be afterward when I open it up. Bob

[Joel.B]

I took pics but can't get close enough to capture the burrs. I actually determined that it is the "plating" that is folding over the top of the tooth

if you look at 2nd and 3rd pic in the listing, use the ebay mouse-over zoom feature and look at the very tip of the bottom short teeth of pinion, they are almost as burred as these. If you look at same spot on Penn/Newell/Accurate gears it is a clean cut

[Joel.B]

when I zoom these in my picasa file I can  see the problems..

[Black Pearl]

I believe that the problem with this gear set is the SS material. The seller should never use 304 graded SS. It is just too soft SS for fishing reel.