TUTORIAL: Okuma Magnetix MG-30CS

Started by Dan, March 22, 2010, 04:00:11 PM

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Dan

The Okuma Magnetix MG-30CS that's beeing used for surfcasting by the owner.



Lets start by servicing the spool bearings. Unscrew the 4 screws holding the side plate in place



Remove the side plate cover



Remove the side plate



Inside of the side plate. Pull the bearing and set it aside.



Remove the spool



The second spool bearing. It's kept in place by two c-clips



Remove the top clip



And pull the bearing. It was a tight fit on this reel



Clean the bearings (I use lighter fluid)



After they have dried, oil them. For this reel I used TG's Rocket fuel red label by the request form the owner.



Replace both bearings





Re-install the c-clip



Put the spool back in the frame



Install the side plate



And the side plate cover. And install the 4 screws holding it in place.



Check the freespool




Ok, now we're ready for the other side!

Remove the screw securing the handle nut



The standard key I had to remove these nuts didn't fit properly.



But fortunatly you can just use a 10mm key instead.



Remove the plastic washer



The handle



And the tension washer



Remove the star drag



Remove the rest of the washers. Remember their order and orientation!



This is what we have so far.



Unscrew the 5 screws and remove the side plate cover



Remove the right side plate



Hmm, where does this deformed spring come from?



Unscrew the two screws and remove the cover



Remove the clutch cam screw



Remove the clutch cam slider



Remove the pinion gear and yoke



Remove the springs



Remove the two top and the bottom screw for the cover (leave the one in the middle).



Remove the drive shaft assembly. Notice that there's no anti-reverse pawl! I couldn't find the schematics for this exact model, but the other similar okuma reels do have this, so I can only assume it's an assembly error for this unit. But please do correct me if I'm wrong here. The spring we found doesn't look like a dog spring either, deformed or not.


The drive shaft assembly parts, the break is still stacked in this picture



All the parts lined up



Now, it's here were Alan would replace the non-carbonfiber drag washer and grease it with drag grease. But this time I was only opening the reel to have a look at the construction. So I reassemble the drive shaft and install it.



Install the 3 screws



Install the two yoke springs



Install the pinion gear (which I've cleaned and greased) and yoke



I aslo put some grease where the clutch cam slider will rub on the yoke.



Reinstall the clutch cam slider



Reinstall the clutch cam slider screw. Make sure the clutch works!



Replace the plate and install the two screws.



Reinstall the right side plate



Replace the side plate cover



And reinstall the 5 side plate screws.



Reinstall the spring washers. () orientation.



Reinstall the click washer.



Screw the star drag back on



Install the tension washer and grease it.



Replace the handle. Grease the handle where the nut wil sit and install the plastic washer



Screw the handle nut back on



Make sure it aligns with the screw hole



Install the screw securing the handle nut.



We're done :)



There were some unresolved issues with the anti-reverse on this unit. But since we have the anti-reverse bearing it will still work.

This reel is pretty similar to the CV 30L tutorial Alan already made, and I'm sure I didn't get all the english terminology correcy, but hopefully it might be helpful to someone anyway :)

Bryan Young

Thanks Dan.  Great write up.  Did you find out where that deformed spring came from?
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

alantani

i think that spring came from another reel.  great work!  alan
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

Dan

Quote from: BryanYoung on March 22, 2010, 10:03:40 PM
Thanks Dan.  Great write up.  Did you find out where that deformed spring came from?

My only "logical" explanation is that whoever stole the anti-reverse prawn & spring left it there as payment  :D

alantani

you know, you guys really are cranking out some very impressive works!
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

Jimmer

The spring may be out of the auto-trip mechanism between the AR wheel and the holding plate.
What - me worry?   A.E.Neumann

borntofish

I have a couple of Okuma MagSystem MS-30CS reels. I'm not sure what the difference is compared to the Magnetix shown, but these models have a 6.2:1 gear ratio.

These reels cast well and the mags really work, providing a lot of braking near full and progressively less down the scale. One problem though is their habit of throwing theselves into gear when casting. The problem is that the handle moves with the momentum of the cast and trips the reel into gear. The solution is to cut the longer arm of the clutch cam so that the two arms are equal in length.

Jimmer

I could not find a schematic for this reel, but an easier solution might be to disable the auto trip function by removing the small spring loaded disc with the tab and it's coil spring (no part # on the CV 30L schematic), located between the AR wheel and the holding plate. The small tab engages the end of the long arm of the cluch cam and puts the reel in gear when the handle is turned.
What - me worry?   A.E.Neumann

BigT

Many thanks for the great tutorial, Dan. I have a couple of friends with Magnetix reels that will be very grateful too. Nice work ;D

Cheers, BigT
more of my rebuilds on
http://www.fishraider.com.au

borntofish

Quote from: Jimmer on March 24, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
I could not find a schematic for this reel, but an easier solution might be to disable the auto trip function by removing the small spring loaded disc with the tab and it's coil spring (no part # on the CV 30L schematic), located between the AR wheel and the holding plate. The small tab engages the end of the long arm of the cluch cam and puts the reel in gear when the handle is turned.

Probably about the same effort. You will need a hacksaw to cut the cam and a file or similar to smooth the cut edge. However this method doesn't involve much dismantling of the reel.

PS: this is what the Okuma Australia service technician told me to do.

BurningHeart

#10
Thanks a lot for this tutorial, I'm gonna work on a friends Okuma Contoura 303cs, which is not unlike this reel, and this is going to be very handy. I've noticed the gear plate is a lot like the Convector so it will be familiar.

Update:

I finished the Contoura and either my friend had taken it apart already and put it back together wrong or, Okuma had a bad reel slip through quality control. Unlike the reel mentioned above it has an anti-reverse pawl, just no spring, and the drag washers and metal washers were in all backwards. Kind of a mess in there.

maveric0_3

Can anyone see the pictures on this post

Quote from: Dan on March 22, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
The Okuma Magnetix MG-30CS that's beeing used for surfcasting by the owner.



Lets start by servicing the spool bearings. Unscrew the 4 screws holding the side plate in place



Remove the side plate cover


Remove the side plate


Inside of the side plate. Pull the bearing and set it aside.


Remove the spool


The second spool bearing. It's kept in place by two c-clips


Remove the top clip


And pull the bearing. It was a tight fit on this reel


Clean the bearings (I use lighter fluid)


After they have dried, oil them. For this reel I used TG's Rocket fuel red label by the request form the owner.


Replace both bearings




Re-install the c-clip


Put the spool back in the frame


Install the side plate


And the side plate cover. And install the 4 screws holding it in place.


Check the freespool



Ok, now we're ready for the other side!

Remove the screw securing the handle nut


The standard key I had to remove these nuts didn't fit properly.


But fortunatly you can just use a 10mm key instead.


Remove the plastic washer


The handle


And the tension washer


Remove the star drag


Remove the rest of the washers. Remember their order and orientation!


This is what we have so far.


Unscrew the 5 screws and remove the side plate cover


Remove the right side plate


Hmm, where does this deformed spring come from?


Unscrew the two screws and remove the cover


Remove the clutch cam screw


Remove the clutch cam slider


Remove the pinion gear and yoke


Remove the springs


Remove the two top and the bottom screw for the cover (leave the one in the middle).


Remove the drive shaft assembly. Notice that there's no anti-reverse pawl! I couldn't find the schematics for this exact model, but the other similar okuma reels do have this, so I can only assume it's an assembly error for this unit. But please do correct me if I'm wrong here. The spring we found doesn't look like a dog spring either, deformed or not.


The drive shaft assembly parts, the break is still stacked in this picture


All the parts lined up


Now, it's here were Alan would replace the non-carbonfiber drag washer and grease it with drag grease. But this time I was only opening the reel to have a look at the construction. So I reassemble the drive shaft and install it.


Install the 3 screws


Install the two yoke springs


Install the pinion gear (which I've cleaned and greased) and yoke


I aslo put some grease where the clutch cam slider will rub on the yoke.


Reinstall the clutch cam slider


Reinstall the clutch cam slider screw. Make sure the clutch works!


Replace the plate and install the two screws.


Reinstall the right side plate


Replace the side plate cover


And reinstall the 5 side plate screws.


Reinstall the spring washers. () orientation.


Reinstall the click washer.


Screw the star drag back on


Install the tension washer and grease it.


Replace the handle. Grease the handle where the nut wil sit and install the plastic washer


Screw the handle nut back on


Make sure it aligns with the screw hole


Install the screw securing the handle nut.


We're done :)


There were some unresolved issues with the anti-reverse on this unit. But since we have the anti-reverse bearing it will still work.

This reel is pretty similar to the CV 30L tutorial Alan already made, and I'm sure I didn't get all the english terminology correcy, but hopefully it might be helpful to someone anyway :)

alantani

i sent him an e-mail.  hopefully it's just a server that is down temporarily. 
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

alantani

send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

dobrobill

Great write up. Reel looks to be well built...