New Old Stock 114H U.S.A.

[handi2]

Have you fished with the Fish Winch yet? I have one and used it on one trip. Way too slow for me but they are powerful..!

[coastal_dan]

Im going to bump this as I am having a similar issue with a 114 HLW, I'll be hunting for some shims, but first I'll check for the gnarled washer over the bearing...To Be Continued...

Edit: I just looked through the schematic of the 114H, 114HL and the 114HLW and they only show the bearing and the o-ring on the left side plate (sold as one piece).  Maybe the washer is a part in the construction of that assembly?  I'll take the reel down tonight...

[coastal_dan]

Found your gnarled washer!  Yep, part of the assembly of the bearing.

Concerning the spool play, I think I've fixed it (thanks to this thread)!  I'll do a post tomorrow with links to the posts I used for reference.  Feeling quite accomplished, haha!😎  And without AT.com I'm not sure what I would have done.

[Bill B]

It's amazing what we assume.....every 113  and 114 special I have taken apart had that knurled spacer retaining the bearing, but then again I've only done a 1/2 dozen and all were new or never opened.....thanks for the detective work brothers....  Bill

[mizmo67]

We've found with the 114H non-handle side bearing, just tightened by hand it doesn't make enough contact properly with the spool
A towel and pliers will let you tighten it enough that most of the play should be gone.

[otghoyt]

I have run across older bearing cups that are quite rounded on the top and others that are very flat.  The older, rounded ones are a little deeper and use a knurled spacer/keeper on both sides of the bearing in the cup. There's no telling if this was Penn or an owner fix but I have seen it twice out of roughly 20 that I have been inside of.

As previously stated, there are all sorts of deviant abnormalities in the manufacturing and out sourcing over the years.   I have seen un- shielded bearings in a 114H that had a washer looking piece of oiled felt and then the knurled keeper.  The only other reel I have seen that on is a 1945-ish, black plate Squidder.  Betcha A.T. has seen all this and many, many more oddities.  I wouldn't mind hearing about some of the strangeness others have run across.

H~

[Dominick]

We've found with the 114H non-handle side bearing, just tightened by hand it doesn't make enough contact properly with the spool
A towel and pliers will let you tighten it enough that most of the play should be gone.

Don't let Sal hear you say this... Dominick

[Alto Mare]

Different situation Dominick, the spool should have a little sideway movement, but you've proved it to be not necessary   .

I agree with Mo! all the 114h's that have come through my hands, having the O-ring on the bearing cup, needed to be tighten with force.
No need for spacers on those, just get a good grip on the leftside bearing and tighten all the way.
I use wood clamp from work and do a good job.
A towel with pliers, as Mo has suggested will work, just make sure you get a good grip and thry not to make it slip.

Sal