Braid backing?

BMITCH · January 14, 2015, 02:06:29 PM

Ok folks, I know if you ask 100 different people you will get 100 different answers but here goes anyway.
What is a good line for backing on my chunking reels. I was using 130# tuff line in hi-vis yellow. This is going to be put on my 40# and 60# reels(4/0 and 6/0 respectively). What I was doing was 130# braid to about 75-100 yds. Of mono topshot. Joined by a double uni knot. What suggestions do you all have?

Keta · January 14, 2015, 03:56:46 PM

I use 20'-30' of dacron then the spectra and a much shorter topshot. The double uni will work well for attaching the topshot for 40# and under, I use 10'-100' L2L topshots.

Irish Wake · January 14, 2015, 06:42:35 PM

on my Penn 30 and 50 using for Chunking and Trolling Tuna 16 to 20#of Drag,I start with 20 to 40yr of Dacron to 400yr of 100# Spectra,full the rest of the reel with 60# mono,and top shot 15 to 20ft of Fluorocarbon 60#,,,Sharking the same but use 80# Mono,,Momoi and PR knots

BMITCH · January 14, 2015, 07:42:44 PM

Love the Momoi diamond. IMO the best mono. Why the Dacron 30 or 40 yards to start. Why not mono than braid?

Shark Hunter · January 14, 2015, 08:39:55 PM

I think that's to get a solid grip on the spool Bob. The Braid and Mono have a tendency to slip. I use hollow Core Underneath, then mono.

broschro · January 14, 2015, 09:03:44 PM

I am a huge fan of the Albright special much stronger than the uni to uni and it will go to your guide's much better.

fIsHsTiiCkS · January 14, 2015, 09:34:39 PM

Sounds likes you have a solid plan already. Except I wouldn't use the uni knot. Much better options in my opinion

Irish Wake · January 14, 2015, 10:07:27 PM

Shark Hunter has is right,using Dacron first Lock the Spectra in tighter for better raps,when spooling Spectra it take about 10lb of Drag.

BMITCH · January 14, 2015, 10:13:02 PM

Thanks for the reply guys. Gonna go with the Dacron on the spool. What I've been using is 2 sided tape then braid thank mono.

I REALLY need to learn the L2L system. Just a little intimadated by the hollow loop. My problem is that I fish on head boats and they all want at least the first 100 yds or so to be mono. Not sure that would work with the L2L system would work for this.

mike1010 · January 14, 2015, 10:35:47 PM

Quote from: broschro on January 14, 2015, 09:03:44 PM
I am a huge fan of the Albright special much stronger than the uni to uni and it will go to your guide's much better.

A perfect Albright is a beautiful thing, but I find them almost impossible to tie, especially on a rolling boat in the wind. And even with an almost-perfect Albright, the mono tag end is prone to hanging up on your guides on a cast. The same is true for related knots. After a time looking into alternatives for joining mono and spectra, I settled on the Bristol or no-name knot:

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/bristol-knot

It is very strong, compact, and easy and fast to tie. (I substitute a seven turn surgeon's loop for the Bimini.) I've been using it for about a year, and haven't had one blow up on me yet.

Speaking of Biminis, have you seen this?

--Mike

broschro · January 14, 2015, 10:36:34 PM

modified Albright.i run 25 to 50 yards of mono on top of my braid to give it stretch. the Albright is stronger then the Bristol and the no name.

BMITCH · January 14, 2015, 10:51:05 PM

Broschro, yeah I know about the uni to uni getting hung up. I don't like it, but can tie it quick in the dark on a rocking boat. I guess with any knot its practice,practice,practice.

FatTuna · January 14, 2015, 10:52:18 PM

To me that sounds like pretty heavy line. I think that you could get by using lighter line and getting more capacity on there.

On my 4/0 senators, I loaded them with some 50lb dacron backing and then 300yards of 65lb braid. There is still plenty of room for a topshot.

I use an albright knot too and then I paint it with clear nail varnish.

SoCalAngler · January 14, 2015, 10:57:46 PM

Why such large braid for 40-60 lb toppers? Kinda defeats the purpose of using braid in the first place. With the chunck you want your offering to fall as natural as the other chuncks without a line attached so thinner braid with short toppers would be best but I see you need a long topshots so that ain't going to work.

You right coast guys really need to get the boats you ride to do what others around the world do when it comes to braided lines. Yeah there is a learning curve on how to fish braid but with the boats not allowing you guys to fish it you will never learn the correct methods. When I say you don't take it personally I'm referring people that don't get a chance to fish it the way they want. It seems to me the right coast guys are about 15 years behind the times when it comes to braided line and thats not because of the fishermen but the boats.

I use long toppers on a few of my rigs, like 75-100 yards and I like to connect my solid spectra to mono using the Bob Sands knot. I've tried several connections for solid to mono/fluoro but keep comming back to the Bob Sands.

broschro · January 14, 2015, 11:09:51 PM

we here on the right coast fish what works for us.the bob Sands would not hold up to a 40# Gag Grouper trying to pull you in the reef. i like at lest 15 yards of mono attached to my braid for stretch and i use the modified albright knot to connect my braid to mono and flouro. all my terminal connections for bottom fishing get the world fair knot.