penn 113h problem

castamile · May 16, 2015, 01:09:00 AM

Hi All,

What a great site, full of valuable information. I need help figuring out what's wrong with a reel. I got an old penn113h from craigslist that was a really good deal . it's the kind with the thick drag washers that you can access from the outside. After cleaning it and putting it together I found that that the spool is wobbling left and right even though the left knob is tight all the way. When I crank the handle then stop it, the spool would keep going while clicking from the right side. I checked the schematics but cannot figure out what is missing . Any advice?

alantani · May 16, 2015, 01:10:46 AM

that is normal. it's just something that you would never see when the reel has line on it and you're fishing.

alantani · May 16, 2015, 01:11:40 AM

oh, and welcome!!!!!

castamile · May 16, 2015, 01:45:41 AM

Quote from: alantani on May 16, 2015, 01:11:40 AM
oh, and welcome!!!!!

Thanks Alan. Your blog is a treasure man, really enjoying it.

Quote from: alantani on May 16, 2015, 01:10:46 AM
that is normal. it's just something that you would never see when the reel has line on it and you're fishing.

None of my other penn reels do that though including my 113. could it be missing a washer or something? it literally goes into one directional free spool after stop cranking.

akfish · May 16, 2015, 12:33:02 PM

I suspect the side plats are swollen so that they are too wide on the spool. I see this fairly frequently on older Penn reels. If that is the problem, there's nothing you can do short of replacing the side plates.

Reel 224 · May 16, 2015, 01:01:30 PM

As I have been told. Pictures will help.

castamile · May 24, 2015, 11:17:52 PM

Here are some pictures of the inside of the reel.

castamile · May 25, 2015, 12:47:39 AM

more pictures

castamile · May 25, 2015, 12:51:08 AM

more pics

Shark Hunter · May 25, 2015, 05:27:10 AM

Excellent pictures castamile. It look to me like you are missing something in the adjustable bearing.
Here is a pic of an older 113H with the bearing removed.

There is no side to side spool play when installed.

RowdyW · May 25, 2015, 06:43:34 AM

Hi castamile, if the spool has side to side play the threads on the left bearing might be dirty or damaged and not allowing you to adjust the bearing in far enough to take out all the free play. You should be able to adjust the bearing inward till there is barely any side play. Clean the threads & try again. RUDY

castamile · May 25, 2015, 03:53:06 PM

Thank you for the reply with pictures Shark Hunter. Any suggestion what could be missing from the left side bearing? is there any part that goes inside the knob( besides the bearing)? from your picture it looks like your bearing knob is identical to mine.

Thank you Rowdy - I just tried that now and lubed the knob well. I believe I screwed it in pretty deep till there is almost nothing to hold on to. unfortunately that didn't change much.

I shoved a piece of rubber in the knob whole in order to push against the spool a bit and it made a bit of a difference. there is a still a wobble but less than before. now I have to figure out how I'm gonna get it out

RowdyW · May 25, 2015, 04:47:40 PM

castamile, is it possible that the spool moves to far to the right (handle side)? Then the problem might be with the right bearing being damaged or the end of the spool is worn. One way to center up the spool is to either replace the bearing or spool or both. Another way is to get a soda or beer can & cut a small piece of aluminum to fit in the right bearing to shift the spool to the left. You might need more then one shim. Are you talking about side to side play or do you mean wobble by a crooked spool? RUDY

Alto Mare · May 25, 2015, 05:11:35 PM

Castamile, from looking at you pics i'm going to guess its your right side bearing. It could also be something else as mentioned above, but that bearing doesn't look right to me.
Assemble the reel and using your hand move the spool to the right ( handle side ), if you see a gap on the opposite side, your right side bearing and probably the bearing cup are bad.
The spool should be centered, having the same space on both sides, if a shim in needed, do as Rudy mentioned.
I don't like to use aluminum, I usually use a piece of stainless steel from shimming material.

Sal

castamile · May 25, 2015, 08:06:31 PM

The gap is actually on the right side. Moving the spool to the right results in closing the gap. adding that rubber shim to the left bearing knob pushes the spool to the right and closes the gap. any concerns on adding and keeping a rubber piece to the left knob?