HELP! Gears stuck on 2 speed reel

[Wwen]

Hi guys,
All of a sudden my 2 speed gear stopped working on my Maxel Sl12D. I noticed the problem after dissecting the reel and it seems like the pins that push up the gear are loose and not in the holes theyre supposed to be in. i completely opened up the reel but can't get the gear shaft out. I've been using the JM PE5N tutorial on this site becauseeverythings identical (except for the 2nd gear and shifter) but I can't get the gear off of the shaft. Please pardon any incorrect terminology

Here is a pic of my reel:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzhq8dtm6rzvq44/image%20%282%29.jpeg?dl=0

Loose Screws/Pins for gear:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2ekwz7d3msl83o/image%20%284%29.jpeg?dl=0

Pics from the JM PE5N TUTORIAL:
Look how easy it slides out?

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Jigging%20Master%20PE5N/P1030227.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Jigging%20Master%20PE5N/P1030229.jpg

Edward Wen

[johndtuttle]

Hi guys,
All of a sudden my 2 speed gear stopped working on my Maxel Sl12D. I noticed the problem after dissecting the reel and it seems like the pins that push up the gear are loose and not in the holes theyre supposed to be in. i completely opened up the reel but can't get the gear shaft out. I've been using the JM PE5N tutorial on this site becauseeverythings identical (except for the 2nd gear and shifter) but I can't get the gear off of the shaft. Please pardon any incorrect terminology

Here is a pic of my reel:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzhq8dtm6rzvq44/image%20%282%29.jpeg?dl=0

Loose Screws/Pins for gear:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2ekwz7d3msl83o/image%20%284%29.jpeg?dl=0

Pics from the JM PE5N TUTORIAL:
Look how easy it slides out?

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Jigging%20Master%20PE5N/P1030227.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Jigging%20Master%20PE5N/P1030229.jpg

Edward Wen

You have to take apart the two-speed mechanism from the other side to get the main shaft out, then the gears will lift off. Most 2-speed reels are like this where the shaft is permanent on this side (one way or the other) because you cannot simply slide it out of the 2-speed shifter <<----has to be removed first.

[Wwen]

Hi guys,
All of a sudden my 2 speed gear stopped working on my Maxel Sl12D. I noticed the problem after dissecting the reel and it seems like the pins that push up the gear are loose and not in the holes theyre supposed to be in. i completely opened up the reel but can't get the gear shaft out. I've been using the JM PE5N tutorial on this site becauseeverythings identical (except for the 2nd gear and shifter) but I can't get the gear off of the shaft. Please pardon any incorrect terminology

Here is a pic of my reel:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzhq8dtm6rzvq44/image%20%282%29.jpeg?dl=0

Loose Screws/Pins for gear:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2ekwz7d3msl83o/image%20%284%29.jpeg?dl=0

Pics from the JM PE5N TUTORIAL:
Look how easy it slides out?

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Jigging%20Master%20PE5N/P1030227.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/fishmad1/Jigging%20Master%20PE5N/P1030229.jpg

Edward Wen

You have to take apart the two-speed mechanism from the other side to get the main shaft out, then the gears will lift off. Most 2-speed reels are like this where the shaft is permanent on this side (one way or the other) because you cannot simply slide it out of the 2-speed shifter <<----has to be removed first.

Hey John,
I believe I have already done that. Or maybe I haven't? I attached a pic.
what should be the first piece to slide out?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pifpssbxetxf46e/photo.JPG?dl=0

[Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B]

is there a retaining clip, handle side, on the shaft? if not try slightly tapping it out with a rubber mallet. also look at shaft's end for slight deformations...

[johndtuttle]

Yes, there is usually a retaining ring of some kind on the handle side.

Did you get a schematic with this wonderful purchase of yours?

If there is no retaining ring then as above, soft taps to get it out of the bearing.

What you are finding is the reason I never recommend reels like a Maxel, no one works on them. You might easily get into trouble and waste your money.

We'll try to help as best we are able, but what you are finding is there is no free lunch. When you buy a random reel you get random problems that are hard to solve. I hope you don't need parts...

[Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B]

here's the schematics if you don't have it;

http://www.maxelfishing.com/products?cat=Reels&subCat1=Jigging&subCat2=Sealion&sku=SL09DG&layout=single

scroll down and click your reel model on the right.

[Rivverrat]

Did you get a schematic with this wonderful purchase of yours?

I'm not meaning  to be rude. Simply because I know how frustrating it is to purchase a reel with high expectations
of it performing the way I want. Only to have those expectations reveal themselves  as a delusional dream..
Not saying that's the case here. I hope your reel gets up & running. ...

With that disclaimer now spoken, I have to say I found this statement of John's a complete, rip in the pants ,
hilarious !! Its  late I'm giddy ....Jeff

[johndtuttle]

Did you get a schematic with this wonderful purchase of yours?

I'm not meaning  to be rude. Simply because I know how frustrating it is to purchase a reel with high expectations
of it performing the way I want. Only to have those expectations reveal themselves  as a delusional dream..
Not saying that's the case here. I hope your reel gets up & running. ...

With that disclaimer now spoken, I have to say I found this statement of John's a complete, rip in the pants ,
hilarious !! Its  late I'm giddy ....Jeff

I'm sorry, I really want to help Wwen but we went round and round with him about what reels to buy and such...and then out of the blue he decided to buy a Maxel...

Maxel is the maker of Jigging Master reels and are in the process of destroying their friend's business by undercutting them in the market but offering even less service than JM and occasional shoddy quality.

We counseled Wwen to beware and that such bargains rarely turn out to be such when something inevitably goes wrong...and well, here we are....

Hope he gets it up and running! Standing by to assist....

[josa1]

I looked at your pictures.  Reel looks very much like the Penn 15KG that I recently posted on.  Look at the portion on taking the right side plate apart.

Here is a link...http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15404.0

In the center of the  plate covering the low speed gear note the end of the screw that secures the plate and holds the low speed gear on the gear stack.  The head of the screw is located inside the gear stud and is easily removed with a screwdriver.  There is a shift return spring wrapped around the screw.

There are no locating pins on this kind of shifting mechanism, just a capture mechanism that is actuated when the low speed selector button is pushed. As viewed the gears would be in the high speed position.

Don't know for sure that this will help you but I think that it might.

josa1

[josa1]

I didn't notice that you had additional pictures.  After viewing the one with the screws stuck under the low speed gear plate I would believe that this is your only problem.

Your disassembly pictures do not show what's under the handle hold down screw but believe it will be very much like in the link I sent you.

Sorry for the confusion!

josa1

[Rivverrat]

John no reason for apology. I found it bringing humor to a frustrating situation. What little I know of Maxel reels I'm not fond of. As stated I hope this reel gets back up & running again. Very glad that Wwen felt comfortable enough to still come here to seek help & seems to be tolerating a good natured poke at the situation...Jeff 

[josa1]

Hi again Wwen,

After looking at the picture with the screws under the drive plate again, I believe that you may be able to lift the plate and get the screws out from under there.

How about you try this... Put a flat blade screwdriver under the plate and GENTLY rotate it to see if the plate lifts up a bit.  If it does the screws should slide right out.  If they do, leave the screwdriver in position so that the plate stays raised, slip an awl through one of the plate screw holes into one of the threaded screw holes in the gear.  Use the awl to align the screw holes in the gear with the screw holes in the plate.  Reinsert and tighten the screws and the problem should be fixed.

josa1

[johndtuttle]

Yea, looking at the photos under magnification it looks like that plate is "peened" on in addition to the screws. That means the whole assembly may have to come out to remove the top gear and get at the problem.

Hoping we can solve this for Wwen. 

[alantani]

from the outside, you have to remove the handle, then pull all the springs.  keep everything in order.  then, from the outside, go in with a flat screwdriver and back out the screw that holds the gear in place.  that tiny hole that you see in the middle of the main gear is a screw hole.  it's just like the penn international

[johndtuttle]

from the outside, you have to remove the handle, then pull all the springs.  keep everything in order.  then, from the outside, go in with a flat screwdriver and back out the screw that holds the gear in place.  that tiny hole that you see in the middle of the main gear is a screw hole.  it's just like the penn international

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