14/0 three piece spool

[FatTuna]

I'm selling a 14/0 and potential buyers keep asking if it has a three piece spool. Is there a way to tell without pulling the line off the spool? Perhaps by looking at the spindle?

I don't believe I've ever seen a three piece 14/0 spool before. Anyone have a picture?

[Shark Hunter]

Come to think of it Sean. I haven't either.
Lets see a pic of your reel.

[thorhammer]

3 or not, PM me where you want to be on this reel.

John

[Superhook]

FatTuna,

Photo here.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12533.0
14/0 ...page 1

[Tightlines667]

Here's mine...

[FatTuna]

This is the best shot I could get of the spool with the backing on there.

Thanks for the pic John. Definitely never seen one of those in person.

Are the three piece spools only found on the really old 14/0s? Which spool do you feel is more desirable?

Judging by the picture, the three piece appears to have a different shape. Might just be the picture though. Also, the arbor appears to be narrower.

[Makule]

The old Senators all had 3-piece spools, as shown in one of the referenced threads (the spool shown in the Tightlines666 reel is a 3-piece).  The newer ones had cast bronze spools.  They are easy to tell apart.  The arbor on the 3-piece spools have the flanges attached with a convex "bump".  The cast bronze spools have a smooth, concave, curve from the arbor to flanges.



The cast bronze spools are stronger and heavier than the 3-piece spools.  Not so much an issue with line that doesn't stretch much (I.E., spectra fiber), but mono will easily split the spool.  I've even had mono split a cast bronze spool on a 12/0 reel, and the added pressure on the large diameter 14/0 spool would results in increased stress (not sure whether it would be considered tensional or shear stress).

[FatTuna]

The old Senators all had 3-piece spools, as shown in one of the referenced threads (the spool shown in the Tightlines666 reel is a 3-piece).  The newer ones had cast bronze spools.  They are easy to tell apart.  The arbor on the 3-piece spools have the flanges attached with a convex "bump".  The cast bronze spools have a smooth, concave, curve from the arbor to flanges.



The cast bronze spools are stronger and heavier than the 3-piece spools.  Not so much an issue with line that doesn't stretch much (I.E., spectra fiber), but mono will easily split the spool.  I've even had mono split a cast bronze spool on a 12/0 reel, and the added pressure on the large diameter 14/0 spool would results in increased stress (not sure whether it would be considered tensional or shear stress).

Thanks for the write up. That all makes sense.

I did notice the flanges in Johns picture.

The spool in this reel is heavy with thick walls. I can't inspect the arbor right this minute.

[Shark Hunter]

Another way is to look at the spools edges. See how the three piece is more rounded on the ends.
Can't remember where I heard that, but it was here.

[FatTuna]

Good call Shark Hunter. The three piece is definitely rounded. The one I have is chrome over brass.

[Makule]

I believe this is correct.

Too, my recollection is that the cast bronze spool have a bit more satin finish than the 3-piece chrome.  Think it has to do with casting and cutting on the lathe, versus forming plates in a press.  The lathe work leaves a bit rougher finish (although it can be made very smooth), while the pressed flanges start with a smooth finished plate that is cut out to size and then pressed to form the shape.

Another way is to look at the spools edges. See how the three piece is more rounded on the ends.
Can't remember where I heard that, but it was here.

[Bill B]

Good explanation guys.....the more I read the more I learn....need better glasses 'cuz there's a lot for me to learn....Bill