Fin Nor LT 100

Started by Shark Hunter, February 25, 2016, 02:04:11 PM

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MarkT

Yeah, but versa drag sounds like something the marketing dept came up with to take advantage of a non-existent feature. You can mess with the order of the washers in any reel!  Kinda like Progressives name your price tool or Shimano's Hagane tech!

It's been years since I've heard of a LT 100 stem snapping so it must've been someone doing something stupid then blaming the reel.
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philaroman

just guessing, here: the versa drag seems a bit of a gimmick,
but makes more sense w/ drag washers that are somewhat compressible
by stacking fiber washers, you'd gain adjustability, as you lost MAX

w/ hard, stiff CF it would be more like Jason suggests -- straight loss of efficiency
for lower MAX, strictly, it would be better to fix the knob to bottom out before reaching said MAX
might even do it w/ some type of gasket for added water resistance

thorhammer

Has anyone put a recent manufacture of these to the test? A member pointed out a sale recently, so at $89 delivered, I figured "what the heck". MSRP is well above the Ben that  Daron paid at the beginning of the thread six years ago. My initial thought was to put it on a trevala jigging rod with 80 braid for grouper fishing, but that means lock it down, stop'em or pop'em. Maybe not the best idea after I read this thread....

Worst case I'll drum fish with it and I'm sure it's more than up for that task.


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JasonGotaProblem

Did i miss something? What in this thread is making you think that's not a viable option? You're making me second guess, if not my reel, maybe my reading ability.
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foakes

Economics. Maybe they want to sell 100,000 reels at 100 bucks. Versus 10,000 reels at 200 bucks.

While not getting into buyer motivations, perceptions, and human nature —- just get one of these.  You won't be sorry.

Does a new truck need to cost $65K, a new iPhone $1K, a cup of Starbucks $5, or a gallon of gas $5.50?

Only, if you buy into the corporate myth and mentality of high returns...and squeeze 'em until they bleed...

But for some folks —- their perceived value is based on —- the higher the price, the better the product.

The prices on these are going to go up soon —- just watch.

One more thing —- don't confuse the quality of this reel with the other smaller reels in the Lethal Line-Up.

This reel is in a class by itself.

At first, I figured that Fin-Nor made a mistake in pricing these so low.  Now I realize the genius of their marketing.

IMO.

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thorhammer

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Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on April 27, 2022, 03:47:32 PMDid i miss something? What in this thread is making you think that's not a viable option? You're making me second guess, if not my reel, maybe my reading ability.


Looking at pictures of snapped stems...Grouper go straight into the rocks and you are done, plus i get 5X as many AJ's up to 40-50 lbs which pull as hard as tuna, at least, but you can let them run. Grouper is lock the drag and get on it for the first 15-20 feet, with only about 15 feet of heavy mono leader, so no stretch in the main braided running line to absorb shocks. Smooth drag doesn't much matter, you want no pull at all in that first few seconds. I'm gonna try it anyway. The good thing about a spinner in this application is retrieve rate to check bait.

May order another- I get the feel this price was a close-out in advance of model reboot or something, and as Fred said, they will def not get cheaper.

JasonGotaProblem

I havent seen a snapped stem pic dated in the past 4 years. I think there may have been a manufacturing error that has since been corrected. Hoping for the best myself. And that's also my suspicion about this price. They may be discontinuing it or something. Kinda makes me want another.
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handi2

I have one in my shop with a broken stem
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JasonGotaProblem

Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

thorhammer

Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.



As you state...even tho it claims 43 lbs of drag, and my Gen 1 80 Internationals claim 37, I'll never go deliberately fish for BFT with the Lethal, but the 80's have certainly caught their share in the history of the reel. No doubt there can be bad castings, etc. I have a fractured Abu 6500 spool at the moment that had braid on, used lightly, that split four ways. Never seen an Abu spool crack as such in 40 years of playing with them, and 99% of that time was using mono. May leave the 9500SS on the jigging rod. I just kinda feel twitchy having Penn reels on Shimano rods. The fish pay attention to that sort of thing so we should too.

Porthos

#115
When I first got my two LT 100's, I ran them at 30lb and 27lb max drag; never hooked on to anything big enough that would test the stem integrity. 40 lb YT was about it. Did have one handle stem bolt snap on me.

https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14562.0

Once the Cabo 100 and 120 were acquired, the LT 100's were downgraded to 20lb and 16lb max drag. Feel much better with them there.

JasonGotaProblem

Ok so I'm still a bit grumpy about this. Who the heck puts loctite on a screw with such a small and easy to strip head? By the time I realized, it was too late. Never did get the oscillating gear out so I had to flush those bearings in place. The screws that hold down the AR were also glued in but made of better metal so I could eventually get them out.
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Gfish

#117
Ok. Thanks for posting that Jason. Good to know. That's 3 weak parts that I know-of, now. It's made in China, so there "almost" has to be some others...
Then again, I have an '89 Abu Garcia Ambassadeur baitcaster(bass reel), made in Sweden, with a graphite composite,... REEL SEAT! The WHOLE THING. This puppy will be downgraded to real light duty, 10lb.mono leaders only. That's taking the graphite/plastic thing TOO FAR for me. Stupid Garcia Co. influence.
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ReelClean

Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on July 13, 2022, 11:32:02 AMOk so I'm still a bit grumpy about this. Who the heck puts loctite on a screw with such a small and easy to strip head? By the time I realized, it was too late. Never did get the oscillating gear out so I had to flush those bearings in place. The screws that hold down the AR were also glued in but made of better metal so I could eventually get them out.

You used JIS screwdrivers on it I hope?  ;)
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QuoteQuote from: JasonGotaProblem on July 13, 2022, 05:32:02 AM
Ok so I'm still a bit grumpy about this. Who the heck puts loctite on a screw with such a small and easy to strip head? By the time I realized, it was too late. Never did get the oscillating gear out so I had to flush those bearings in place. The screws that hold down the AR were also glued in but made of better metal so I could eventually get them out.

This Disclaimer SHOULD be on a lot of NEW STUFF...lol

WELCOME to the NEW IMPROVED REELS we have to offer that we don't want you to be able to take apart much less service PLUS
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARTS EITHER
WORLD of Modern REELS !

We make it Convenient for ALL  anglers to simply purchase a NEW IMPROVED Version of the one you can't work on or get parts for and for ONLY a FEW DOLLARS MORE  :cf
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