Grandwave 40 aerospool -

Started by seriola, July 17, 2016, 05:47:35 AM

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seriola

#30
- the wobbler -


Alto Mare

Am I seeing this correctly, did you put that drill press on its side? Great idea!
I'm a fan of looks on that spool, but not functionality.
If used hard on saltwater and didn't strip the complete reel down afterwards, you could easily damage some parts, might do better on reels with bushings  :-\.
Just speculation on my part, since I never used anything as such.
Still, I'm enjoying your post.
Nice job!

Sal
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

seriola

#32
Yes Alto Mare  ,you are seeing correctly.
That is a small drill press lying on its side with the adjustable table being used to accommodate the "tailstock spindle".
The piece of aluminium clamped to the table has a hole drilled into it to hold the keyless chuck which is from a broken electric hand drill.

Your speculation is spot on - a maintenance plan is crucial - full ceramic bearings might help too. ;D

Thanks for the comp.

gstours

Thanks form showing us how you did your project.  The pictures of the tailstock spindle, opened my eyes ::)   I got to thinking again! :'(
     We can all learn things,  BUT i do know a few people who know it all!! ???
Do keep doing what you like!   Sometime I wonder what people might think with my projects then I think about those Write Bros.......  PHOOYY! ;)    Just saw another jet go by!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Bill B

Seriola that is a really cool piece of work on the spool.....one suggestion for the live tail stock....maybe drill the aluminum block and mount a spool bearing in the block....might have to counter sink the hole to accommodate the spool shaft......might help the wobbling......Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

seriola

#35
Collapsed Under 60lb 0.70mm Mono  -



Only one section of 1 of the platforms deformed .


Gotta say that the platform strength exceeded my expectations as initially I was not convinced that it would hold up with tightly spooled 50lb 832 braid. it might have contributed though =  ;D

I think stretch vs no stretch also played a part .


A Quick removal of the platforms and a stripping of the paint from the spool - And its good to start the rebuild


This was the heaviest mono I have tested so far as a backing for the braids I have been using.  I thought I would try a 10 lb suffix  so I needed a mono to fill the gap.
I decided to use the 60lb 0.70mm (double xx rainbow) under the 10lb as a logical next step in the max line test for the spool.

All braid used was suffix 832 and all spooling was done as tight as possible .
the 20lb 832 had 30lb mono under it.
the 30 lb 832 had 50lb mono under it
And the 50lb braid was spooled top to bottom with no mono under it.
None of these combos gave problems or showed signs of problems .
The 50lb braid setup was spooled as tight as possible and left for many days spooled up with no issues .
Apart from being Surprised by most of the results, I have been wondering what would make this wiffle spool collapse.

At this point 60lbs seems to be a A positive result - ;D
but realistic testing would probably have collapsed it with lower breaking strain mono. The next platforms will be subjected to a more stringent collapse plan in order to get some better results in that regard.
after some casting -




seriola

Thanks TARFU.

- Gonna take your advice and give it a go.

Rothmar2

Thanks for sharing. Curious to see how you did the indexing for drilling the holes on the spool.

seriola

#38
Quote from: Rothmar2 on July 23, 2016, 09:32:26 PM
Thanks for sharing. Curious to see how you did the indexing for drilling the holes on the spool.




The pattern was made simply by placing the holes as evenly away from each other as possible. Also the idea was to drill as many holes as possible but still keep some strength in the sidewall. No - calculations have been done.

The holes on the spools lip or flange I drilled first.  I made a jig and drilled as even as possible after using an Automatic Center Punch . The gaps in between them range from 2.5mm to 2.95mm.(red arrows)

The other holes have been drilled in order of the numbers allocated from 1 being first to number 5 being last.
the Small holes have a diameter of 3.5mm and the large have a diameter of 6.5mm.
I tried to space the holes as evenly as possible, this is what created the pattern. It is far from even and accurate but it worked , so I tried to replicate it on the other side of the spool.

The two sides do not line up - but they should if done accurately by hand or computer. I winged it and and It worked out. I'm sure it has lots of room for improvement .

Different hole positions can allow for more holes and lower spool weights aswell as different line platform heights.




seriola


Bill B

It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

seriola

Thanks Bill -

Here is another prototype I have made.  It is much easier to produce with basic tools.
The results are good too. Although the accuracy of the drilling is not perfect.  The line platform is Lighter and very strong with little to no flex in the Carbon rods.







Solid 2mm carbon fibre rods from an RC supply store -

Spool used: Okuma CV45CS identical capacity to SL50SH

Rothmar2

This is amazing work, thank you so much for sharing.

Cor

#43
 If looks are what it's about,I think this one is nicer! ;)
Am looking forward to seeing this spool in action.
Cornelis

seriola

#44
60lb test – This is the same line that collapsed the aluminium platform/line capacity reducer in the pics above almost immediately whilst I was spooling it up.
The 2mm carbon rods have been secured on the ends  with super glue .  
50lb braid did not cause any  flexion so I moved onto to testing the 60lb mono.
The spool is still filled with the line , intact and will be left until it fails.
This is way above the line class it would be used with and is an attempt at a max line rating test ...
It was spooled up as tight as possible by hand. I tried to exceed the pressure used in the previous test which caused the collapse.