Red Ambassadeur 5000

[FishDad]

Guys, I need some help. I am reassembling an Ambassadeur 5000 (foot # 047200 - so I think it's a 1972 model) after cleaning. I am having trouble with "C" clips, (seems like I may have heard them called circlips ?) that go on either side of the spool bearing on the left side. I think I'm going crazy, because these are the clips that came out of it, but now they seem too small. I can get 'em back in the groove with no problem, but they will not stay....I can easily shake 'em out. Has anyone else had trouble with these things? Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
Dennis 

[Marcq]

Guys, I need some help. I am reassembling an Ambassadeur 5000 (foot # 047200 - so I think it's a 1972 model) after cleaning. I am having trouble with "C" clips, (seems like I may have heard them called circlips ?) that go on either side of the spool bearing on the left side. I think I'm going crazy, because these are the clips that came out of it, but now they seem too small. I can get 'em back in the groove with no problem, but they will not stay....I can easily shake 'em out. Has anyone else had trouble with these things? Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
Dennis 

That's what I would do, spread them out a little  with your C clip tool, heat/cool them up  while keeping them spread, re install

Marc..

[FishDad]

Great idea Marc....I wouldn't have thought of that. Thanks for your quick reply.

Dennis

[oc1]

You mean c-clpis on the spool shaft?  I don't remember seeing c-clips on either side of the left spool bearing.  Don't see them on schematics either.  I have a four-screw 5000 and will open it to look tomorrow, but there shouldn't be any reason to have them there if the cast control knob is working.
-steve

[Marcq]

You mean c-clpis on the spool shaft?  I don't remember seeing c-clips on either side of the left spool bearing.  Don't see them on schematics either.  I have a four-screw 5000 and will open it to look tomorrow, but there shouldn't be any reason to have them there if the cast control knob is working.
-steve

He means the C clip that holds the bearings in place

Marc..

[oc1]

Thanks Marc.  A C-clip instead of the pentagonal wire clip.
-steve

[fishhawk]

Bearings or bushings? can't recall any of my ambassadeurs having wire clips on both sides of bearing r bushing just 1 side but I can't remember squat anymore

[Marcq]

Bearings or bushings? can't recall any of my ambassadeurs having wire clips on both sides of bearing r bushing just 1 side but I can't remember squat anymore

Could be bushings or donut shape bearings

Marc..

[FishDad]

Thanks for all your replies. They are actually brass(?) bushings, but I think Ambassadeur calls 'em bearings, & Marc is absolutely correct. They are the C-clips that hold the spool "bearing" in place. EreplacementParts does not show them available, shows a mod kit with the pentagonal wire clip.

This is my brother-in-law's reel, & he wants to keep it as original as possible. So, I'm gonna try the heating/cooling method Marc mentioned. Marc, do you cool them immediately in water, or let them cool naturally?

Dennis

[Marcq]

Thanks for all your replies. They are actually brass(?) bushings, but I think Ambassadeur calls 'em bearings, & Marc is absolutely correct. They are the C-clips that hold the spool "bearing" in place. EreplacementParts does not show them available, shows a mod kit with the pentagonal wire clip.

This is my brother-in-law's reel, & he wants to keep it as original as possible. So, I'm gonna try the heating/cooling method Marc mentioned. Marc, do you cool them immediately in water, or let them cool naturally?

Dennis

Cool it right away in water, but like I said just spread them a little you don't want to distort them

Marc..

[FishDad]

Ok....thanks for all your expertise Marc, I really appreciate it. Gonna do it this afternoon, unless of course, I decide to go fishing LOL.

Dennis