the list - SOA 2021, october 5-13, 2021

[MarkT]

Put me down for '22... I'll be retired by then!

[alantani]

will do!

[stoked4fishin]

Congratulations Mark!

[alantani]

It's about time!!!

[Wally15]

Put me down for '22... I'll be retired by then!

Uh Oh! There goes the neighborhood!
GA Mike

[Wally15]

Darn! Delta is screwing around with my ATL flights again. I'm now arriving SAN at 11:30 AM on the 4th. And Departing at 12:45 PM on the 13th.
Hopefully the fish processing will go a little faster this year. I'm only planning on taking one 50 lb bag of fish home anyway.
GA Mike

[alantani]

if they can't get it done in time, you can have them freeze the fish and hold it until the next trip.  then it will be totally frozen. 

[fwm0103]

If spots are available, please add me and Robert Willis to the 2022 trip!!!

[alantani]

from andrea kraft, the new admin for the SOA office.....

From: Admin SOA <admin@soasportfishing.com>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 12:51 PM
To: alantani@yahoo.com <alantani@yahoo.com>
Subject: COVID-19

Hello!

I am reaching out to let you know, due to the rise in COVID cases, the Spirit of Adventure is now going to require a negative COVID test at least 3 days prior to trip departure, regardless of vaccine status. We do not want to risk the health or safety of our passengers, and hope to keep all of our trips running as planned!

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Take care!

--
Thank you,

Andrea Kraft
Spirit of Adventure Admin
Email: admin@soasportfishing.com | Phone: (619) 549-8002
2803 Emerson Street | San Diego, CA 92106

[alantani]

this is probably the reason......

Another Long Range Trip Down Mexican Waters.  Kelly  Ina reports: 8 DAY LONG RANGE TRIP ON THE ROYAL POLARIS, RETURNED  AUGUST 23, 2021.  FISHED ALL THE WAY UP FROM ALIJOS ROCK FOR WAHOO, YELLOWFIN TUNA, YELLOW TAIL, AND OTHER SPECIES.  THEY DIDN'T FISH GUADALUPE ISLAND, IT WAS AN EXTRA $75.00 PER PERSON PER DAY.  THE JACKPOT FISH WAS A 50 LBS. WAHOO.  ON THE WAY BACK TO SAN DIEGO, 3 MEMBERS OF THE CREW WERE TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID, ONE WITH SYMPTOM WAS ISOLATED.  EVERYONE WAS TESTED BEFORE LEAVING THE BOAT.

The Royal Polaris was affected with COVID!     Three members of the crew tested positive for COVID 4 days into the trip - two crew members and the  captain.  One crew member had symptoms and was quarantined to his cabin for the remainder of the trip. During the remaining 4 days, some of the passengers wore their masks.     When the boat entered the harbor, the Royal Polaris was told to anchor in the harbor while everyone was being tested for COVID.  Four of the passengers tested positive for the virus.      The crew member with the symptoms was escorted off the boat with paramedics.  Kelly tested negative and was able to disembark and tend to his catch.    The crew reported the following catch regarding the trip.  The tuna were in the 10-25 lbs. range and the yellowtail were in the 10-15 lbs. range, a few wahoo up to 50 lbs. The pot fish (Wahoo) was taken on the troll at 15 minutes per team.  They caught other species of fish, but nothing large and no bluefin were sought after.

[tommyd]

I'm pretty sure the captain of that trip was Frank. He is no spring chicken. I sure hope he is ok.

[Ron Jones]

I am just periodically getting tests done. Pretty certain that vaccines are getting less and less relevant.
The Man

[jurelometer]

I am just periodically getting tests done. Pretty certain that vaccines are getting less and less relevant.
The Man

If you read the headlines it looks grim, but that is just because they are highlighting the parts of the studies that show vaccines are not as effective in preventing asymptomatic to mild infections (which was not the target when formulating the vaccine dosage). By the the end of the  stories, you will see that the vaccines (esp RNA) appear to still be working quite well against serious illness, with the Delta variant now dominant.

If you read the actual studies it currently breaks down like this:

The data that is generating all the headlines is coming from Israel (the first country with widespread RNA vaccinations) showing the vaccines providing decreasing protection from symptomatic infection over time.  BUT:  The folks that got immunized first were the elderly (where vaccines in general are typically not as enduring), and the much more infectious  Delta variant has taken over in the interim.   Plus the data set is small, and this is observational data which usually means low confidence.  They did observe that the overall protection against serious illness is still in the 90s.  And the COVID wards in the hospitals in Israel are still predominantly populated by the unvaccinated with the Delta variant.  Just like here in the USA. 

From a scientific and public health perspective, the vaccines appear to be more relevant than than ever.

I haven't been bookmarking the studies, but here is one of them that looked at infected but immunized hospital workers in Israel:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072?

But I am just an untrained science fanboy with too much time on my hands.  Check with your doctor if haven't been vaccinated and are still unsure.

Pfizer just received full approval by the FDA in the USA.   

The Dude

-J

[Bill B]

I did a little digging today....

I have no fancy graphics, but some research on CV-19 reveals the following numbers as of today...

331 million-population of the United States (US Census Bureau)

222 million-confirmed and suspected CV-19 cases (Center for Disease Control)

170 million fully vaccinated (Center for Disease Control)

So  2/3 of the US population has been infected or suspected infection, 40% have had the vaccine.  Best case numbers, everyone in the US has either had CV-19 or been vaccinated. Worst case 2/3 have had CV-19 and 40% vaccinated....


As Dave said earlier....have a conversation with your healthcare provider and make the best decision for your situation.....Bill

[jurelometer]

I did a little digging today....

I have no fancy graphics, but some research on CV-19 reveals the following numbers as of today...

331 million-population of the United States (US Census Bureau)

222 million-confirmed and suspected CV-19 cases (Center for Disease Control)

170 million fully vaccinated (Center for Disease Control)

So  2/3 of the US population has been infected or suspected infection, 40% have had the vaccine.  Best case numbers, everyone in the US has either had CV-19 or been vaccinated. Worst case 2/3 have had CV-19 and 40% vaccinated....

Some good digging there.  Agree it will burn out in time eventually due a combination of vaccination and exposure.   

But there are these overlaps and special cases. Immunity through exposure is often not nearly as robust as vaccines are against future exposures and/or new variants. Plus many folk have both been infected and vaccinated (which is a good idea -  these folk appear to be the most protected group).  So we cannot simply add up vaccinated plus infected, especially for a novel virus that is early on in adapting to humans.

As Dave said earlier... .have a conversation with your healthcare provider and make the best decision for your situation.....Bill

Agree. Make an informed decision.   Healthcare providers for healthcare advice and reel repair experts for reel repair advice . Seems kinda obvious as I type this .   

But I will note that getting your vaccinations completed at least a month before your next long range trip will greatly decrease the odds of becoming "that guy".

-J