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Started by JasonGotaProblem, September 01, 2022, 04:27:57 AM

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JasonGotaProblem

I was putting together some shark rig leaders for this weekend, and had a random idea and ran with it. Nothing new under the sun I'm sure I did not invent it but I dont know what it would be called.

It's 2 8/0 circle hooks crimped facing each other on 60# stainless with 2 different colors of silver thread plus red and green and stiff white synth hair sorta around the outside. Above that is a 4oz weight and a crimped on swivel. The tag ends from the crimps were left long and tucked into the weight.

A part of me wants to do another skirt of thread attached above the weight. But that might be too much.

I have no idea if it'll work well. Only one way to find out. Bet it casts well.
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Bill B

I like the idea.  Are you thinking of fishing chuck bait, whole bait, or just as is? 
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

philaroman

#2
I think the way circles work, 2 together might get in each other's way
the way you have it, I'd want 2 J-hooks positioned opposite each other
(wrapped w/ copper rigging wire...  whipped...  however temp/perm you want)
OR
1 ringed circle w/ really good swivel (BB... whatever...  as long as it rotates freely AND strong)
EDIT: bead-chain swivel...  that's the one I forgot, 
that might be better than BB or regular crane...  if available shark-strength

I'm sure somebody, somewhere has tried 2 circles on 1 ring & discarded the idea

Midway Tommy

I'm not highly experienced in saltwater techniques but I have to agree with Phil on this one. It seems to me that the hooks will most likely work against each other and defeat the circle hook purpose.
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Shellbelly

Quote from: philaroman on September 01, 2022, 05:04:53 PMI think the way circles work, 2 together might get in each other's way
the way you have it, I'd want 2 J-hooks positioned opposite each other

I think these are what is typically built to stabilize "hook conflict".
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JasonGotaProblem

Thanks for the input guys. There's a reason I posted it as "wild hare idea" not "brilliant idea you should all copy without question"

I suspect I'll make a round 2 with J hooks. But I'm still gonna give this version a try. For science!
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

handi2

Are you fishing in the surf or bay?

4oz is not very heavy.
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philaroman

look around at the tandem rigs of the type that Alex posted
much variety for ideas & prices that encourage DIY   ;)

boon

Eh, fish it and see if it works. Proof is in the pudding, the fish don't know the rules.

JasonGotaProblem

Version 2.0
Gamakatsu 6/0 J hooks back to back

Red thread tail by the hook

Silver gray and a bit of gold on the wings.

But hopefully not long enough to foul up the hook. 

3oz weight.

Still no clue what I'm doing here. But its fun. 
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Alan Matsuno

Double hook sturgeon rig.

Midway Tommy

Why not just use a standard double hook? ???
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Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: Midway Tommy on September 30, 2022, 04:34:50 PMWhy not just use a standard double hook? ???
I cant answer that with anything other than personal opinion. I've never used a double hook but my all consuming hatred of treble hooks has led me to assume I'd hate those too.

Plus this is me just messing around with ideas. I'll certainly try to fish it but I can't claim my idea is based on anything established.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2022, 05:12:44 AMVersion 2.0
Gamakatsu 6/0 J hooks back to back
...

Still no clue what I'm doing here. But its fun.
This got eaten at skyway. I had it on a wire leader casting it out with a surf rod and cranking in as fast as I could. Got hit HARD and pulled into the rocks on like the 5th cast. I'm gonna make another. 
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

boon

Does it need to be on wire? Try tieing the same thing with assist cord and run the hooks at slightly different heights, in theory more chances if the fish bites elsewhere on the jig-thing.