How can you tell if a Daiwa model is no longer repaired/discontinued?

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ourford

If it's just bearings, they're all readily available by size. 4x7x2.5 7x11x3 7x13x4
Vic

happyhooker

Typing this now as I wait on hold w/ Shimano on a parts query.  Was told 32 minutes ago that my estimated wait time was 5 min.  Hoping the sympathy ploy may work. But, gotta get thru 1st.

Frank

0119

Penn always available?  They can't provide parts for SpinfisherV's anymore. Pure fishing dumped the old Ambassadeur parts and I wouldn't expect they'll let Penn have much inventory either.

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: 0119 on April 19, 2024, 05:34:35 PMPenn always available?  They can't provide parts for SpinfisherV's anymore. Pure fishing dumped the old Ambassadeur parts and I wouldn't expect they'll let Penn have much inventory either.
I've got a big bin of spinfisherV parts not doing me much good. If mystic doesn't have what you need, I might.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

happyhooker

Never got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min.  Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have.  Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.

Frank

boon

Quote from: happyhooker on April 19, 2024, 09:41:16 PMNever got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min.  Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have.  Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.

Frank

I mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?

Reeltyme

Quote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PM
Quote from: happyhooker on April 19, 2024, 09:41:16 PMNever got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min.  Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have.  Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.

Frank

I mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?

How about a 2 year old Shimano Twin Power 8000 - parts discontinued!

happyhooker

Quote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PM
Quote from: happyhooker on April 19, 2024, 09:41:16 PMNever got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min.  Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have.  Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.

Frank

I mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?

I dunno.  They advertised it as having a "never fail bail", so the obvious answer is as long as there is any demand.

Frank

boon

Quote from: Reeltyme on April 29, 2024, 11:24:26 PMHow about a 2 year old Shimano Twin Power 8000 - parts discontinued!

Seems really odd, what model Twin Power and when?


Quote from: happyhooker on April 30, 2024, 01:22:32 AM
Quote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PMI mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?

I dunno.  They advertised it as having a "never fail bail", so the obvious answer is as long as there is any demand.

Frank

I think we have different levels of "reasonable". My version doesn't extend to a manufacturer maintaining a functionally indefinite inventory of parts just in case someone out there is still using a reel they haven't produced for 3 decades... especially when it's a reel that was $25 new.

Reeltyme

Quote from: boon on April 30, 2024, 04:20:47 AM
Quote from: Reeltyme on April 29, 2024, 11:24:26 PMHow about a 2 year old Shimano Twin Power 8000 - parts discontinued!

Seems really odd, what model Twin Power and when?

It was a service job I did for a customer last year. He has 4 of the same reel. I contacted Shimano direct and first they asked "where did I get the reel" and then informed me it was not supported and parts were discontinued and unavailable. Thanks to Dave's in Tampa, I was able to find comparable parts for repair. This experience just reinforced my dislike for Shimano.


Quote from: happyhooker on April 30, 2024, 01:22:32 AM
Quote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PMI mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?

I dunno.  They advertised it as having a "never fail bail", so the obvious answer is as long as there is any demand.

Frank

I think we have different levels of "reasonable". My version doesn't extend to a manufacturer maintaining a functionally indefinite inventory of parts just in case someone out there is still using a reel they haven't produced for 3 decades... especially when it's a reel that was $25 new.

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: Reeltyme on April 30, 2024, 09:12:41 AMIt was a service job I did for a customer last year. He has 4 of the same reel. I contacted Shimano direct and first they asked "where did I get the reel" and then informed me it was not supported and parts were discontinued and unavailable. Thanks to Dave's in Tampa, I was able to find comparable parts for repair. This experience just reinforced my dislike for Shimano.
But definitely reinforces my fondness for Dave's in Tampa.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Penn

Quote from: 0119 on April 19, 2024, 05:34:35 PMThey can't provide parts for Spinfisher V's anymore.

News to me.  But what do I know. 

tony (Parts and Service Manager)