BFS Fishing Section?

[jgp12000]

The Royal Express foot number is 020205 .It measures 1-1/16" between side plates,narrow spool.The side plate diameter is approx 2.5".The paint is perfect,other than one decal is worn the reel looks new.I do not see any other markings to define what size it is,does the foot number tell the story?

[ExcessiveAngler]

The Royal Express foot number is 020205 .It measures 1-1/16" between side plates,narrow spool.The side plate diameter is approx 2.5".The paint is perfect,other than one decal is worn the reel looks new.I do not see any other markings to define what size it is,does the foot number tell the story?

It's a 4600 James. The 4600 spools measure 23.22 mm. The Abu 5000/5600 spools are 32.37mm. I can't remember what a 6000 spool measures, for the life of me!
All right, just re- read that and went back to edit this.
Put the wrong number there by accident, still having a hell of a time with my memory, since having Covid a few weeks ago.
Had some of those measurements on my phone, from looking for long-distance casting tournament spools. And I don't know how it'll work out with these older reels even though I see them using them using them in the videos. Because the newer BFS reels have a built-in inductor in the spool, And they seem to have a lot more magnets.
Only way I can see to do one of these round reels, for this is to install a mag in it. Either by mono mag, swapping a mag elite side plate or modifying a mag array for it.
Actually playing around with a homemade center mag right now.
Copying something I saw across the pond, that distance casters use.
Back on track here, all outer side plates are the same size/interchangeable, in most of the round reels. There were some non-handle side plates strictly, designed for speed bullets that will work on some Abu reels. And then you have the mag x/ mag elite round reels, they all have a magnet array in the non-handle side plate for spool control, plus some of them have brake blocks also.
Except, for the thumb switch in the brake plate, or if it's a thumb bar, which always designated with a 600 behind the first four digit model number.
And you can still modify any of those plates to swap them back-and-forth, if really needed.

[jgp12000]

Thank you,I had no idea it was a 4600.I know the Blackmax has 5 magnets on the nonhandle side,I
Set the switch to 50% and left it there.So far I can
throw 1/16 easily,I havent tried any lighter lures yet.
I am curious though where to set the brakes for a 1/64 trout magnet,might have to load 4lb line? I will have to experiment.
I have been having a blast catching yearling bass
with a 1/16 Charle Brewer slider spider head and roboworm.

[ExcessiveAngler]

Thank you,I had no idea it was a 4600.I know the Blackmax has 5 magnets on the nonhandle side,I
Set the switch to 50% and left it there.So far I can
throw 1/16 easily,I havent tried any lighter lures yet.
I am curious though where to set the brakes for a 1/64 trout magnet,might have to load 4lb line? I will have to experiment.
I have been having a blast catching yearling bass
with a 1/16 Charle Brewer slider spider head and roboworm.

Yep, no problem at all buddy, always glad to help out, whenever I can. However, I can show you an Abu reel that says 4600 on it. Completely forgot, I had this Mag Trax 4, found a digging around last night lol.
As far as the inductor's in these reels, I haven't played with them at all.
Unless, a few of these smaller bc's I have, just happen to use something similar to the newer technology. I've never had to take the magnets apart on any of these, just a simple, bearing cleaning, and a quick lube.
They were only used in freshwater. But I'm thinking, maybe the brake blocks, could be used in conjunction with some type of mag.
But the first thing that needs to be done is, finding some type of lightweight spool, for the reel you plan to modify. And there's also also many forms of BFS fishing as well. Some guys are using these older reels as far as they can take them, or using the newer fancy ones. But they're using this technique, targeting many many different species.
I kind of thought, This was strictly relegated as a freshwater thing. But No sir, they're targeting some bigger, saltwater species this way as well.

[jgp12000]

Yep I think I will leave the RE stock, The BlackMax suits me fine as is for my BFS activities.

[ExcessiveAngler]

Yep I think I will leave the RE stock,
The BlackMax suits me fine as is for my BFS activities.

Now that wouldn't be any fun, would it lol?
Thinking about buying a cheap one myself!
But I am going to find some type of lightweight aluminum spools though.
Already have an Abu 4600 AL mag Trax here.
Hmmmm, I wonder?  Gonna have to check out a couple other reels, I have hiding around here and see what the spools weigh.

[JasonGotaProblem]

Yep I think I will leave the RE stock,
The BlackMax suits me fine as is for my BFS activities.

Now that wouldn't be any fun, would it lol?
Thinking about buying a cheap one myself!
But I am going to find some type of lightweight aluminum spools though.
Already have an Abu 4600 AL mag Trax here.
Hmmmm, I wonder?  Gonna have to check out a couple other reels, I have hiding around here and see what the spools weigh.

Do you have a black max with the bfs spool yet? Bang for your buck wise not much compares.

[ExcessiveAngler]

Yep I think I will leave the RE stock,
The BlackMax suits me fine as is for my BFS activities.

Now that wouldn't be any fun, would it lol?
Thinking about buying a cheap one myself!
But I am going to find some type of lightweight aluminum spools though.
Already have an Abu 4600 AL mag Trax here.
Hmmmm, I wonder?  Gonna have to check out a couple other reels, I have hiding around here and see what the spools weigh.

Do you have a black max with the bfs spool yet? Bang for your buck wise not much compares.

Nope, surely I don't, yet lol. Might not need one, not sure. Gotta see what happens, when I start playing around with what I have here first. Are these BFS reels, really that much smaller than your average compact bc reel?
See some of them are going down to 4 ounces. That's pretty light, has to be somewhat smaller, I'm thinking. But seems, the inductor in the spool, along with the magnets is what really ties everything together.

[jgp12000]

Yes you need the shallow spool to allow the line to come off easier for the lighter lures,the BlackMax brakes seem fine but 1/16 is the lightest I have cast.

[JasonGotaProblem]

Yes you need the shallow spool to allow the line that come off easier for the lighter lures,the BlackMax brakes seem fine but 1/16 is the lightest I have casted.

James you should share that link to the one you found for $15 on the Walmart website. That's a game changer.

[jgp12000]

BAM !!!

This is a recipe for fun,

BFS Spool: https://www.walmart.com/ip/FitBest-Aluminum-Fishing-Round-Bearing-Reel-Spool-For-PMAX3-BMAX3-SMAX3-Casting-Reels/2066718254

Spool bearing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PDX41WS?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Side plate bearing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4ZZTM73?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Roboworm 4.5(color-Morning Dawn): https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/roboworm-45-straight-worm

Finesse Worm Jighead (1/16 Black) https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-perfect-finesse-worm-jighead

Lake Fork Sickle tail(color-Black Pearl) https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/lake-fork-trophy-lures-sickle-tail-baby-shad

Jighead(1/16 #4 hook)  https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-unpainted-round-jighead-101434734


I have caught Bass,Crappie,Bream,& even 1 catfish with the Lake Fork Sickle tail(color-Black Pearl).The Sickle tail has a strong garlic smell & I believe is salt impregnated as well. You must keep the bag sealed up.

[oc1]

When talking about the lure weight, shouldn't it include the lead, the hook and the plastic worm?  Bucktail hair is lighter than a worm tail.

[JasonGotaProblem]

When talking about the lure weight, shouldn't it include the lead, the hook and the plastic worm?  Bucktail hair is lighter than a worm tail.

Agreed. But where does one draw the line? Does one include it?

And we all know bucktails cast better wet anyway.

[jgp12000]

This one, ain't splitting frog hairs, and "finesse" weighing them   I know what works for me,I am curious though how the lake fork jigs would fair in the salt water.I am sure good on the flats,surf ?

[ExcessiveAngler]

BAM !!!

This is a recipe for fun,

BFS Spool: https://www.walmart.com/ip/FitBest-Aluminum-Fishing-Round-Bearing-Reel-Spool-For-PMAX3-BMAX3-SMAX3-Casting-Reels/2066718254

Spool bearing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PDX41WS?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Side plate bearing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4ZZTM73?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Roboworm 4.5(color-Morning Dawn): https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/roboworm-45-straight-worm

Finesse Worm Jighead (1/16 Black) https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-perfect-finesse-worm-jighead

Lake Fork Sickle tail(color-Black Pearl) https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/lake-fork-trophy-lures-sickle-tail-baby-shad

Jighead(1/16 #4 hook)  https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-unpainted-round-jighead-101434734


I have caught Bass,Crappie,Bream,& even 1 catfish with the Lake Fork Sickle tail(color-Black Pearl).The Sickle tail has a strong garlic smell & I believe is salt impregnated as well. You must keep the bag sealed up.

Thanks for the links buddy. But I do have a question for you? Did you happen to order and  currently using that BFS spool? Looks like Walmart has a clearance on the black max combo, I think it is rod and reel for $50?
Or maybe it said Red max combo? I lost where I was at Walmart site, I'll have to go back and look for it again grrrr lol.
Might have even been less. You and Jason have the same reels, correct?