Nylon oscillation clip 8631 for Cardinal 6--Anything better?

[PhillyJoe]

Picked up a nice clean Cardinal 6 on ebay, lured in by discussion on this site. Didn't take much persuading, I admit...

Sadly and unsurprisingly, the nylon oscillation arm clip is broken. Maybe that is why the reel looks mostly unused?

There is a seller on ebay who has the part for $15 + $5 ship, which would be worth it to me to get this baby back up fishing but I am curious if there are any current suppliers of metal clips?

Somewhere on this site, I believe I read an old post discussing this issue and pointing to a guy in the UK, I believe.

There is another seller making 3-D printed replacements but I question the shear strength of printed parts based on past experiences. They also do not have the integral metal sleeve of the originals.  (edit--Seller is Mike's Reel Repair and material listed as "engineered resin" so maybe I'm underestimating the part. Also looks milled rather than printed to my unexpert eye.)

Any suggestions or should I just bite the bullet and go for the easy ebay replacement, OEM style part?

[foakes]

Hi Joe —-

I think that the nylon block would last likely 20-30 years in a "6", provided the reel gets just a basic service every few years.  So you would be probably OK with the plastic resin oscillation clip.

However, a lot of 6-7's are used in tougher conditions —- and a metal clip block would be superior.

With a 3 or 4, I wouldn't be so concerned —- but it is your call.

Here is a complete new factory arm and metal block.  $20 total, including shipping, to you ($15 + $5).  Everything is solidly attached already as a unit with no resin, or plastic pieces.

Best, Fred

[jurelometer]

There is another seller making 3-D printed replacements but I question the shear strength of printed parts based on past experiences. They also do not have the integral metal sleeve of the originals.  (edit--Seller is Mike's Reel Repair and material listed as "engineered resin" so maybe I'm underestimating the part. Also looks milled rather than printed to my unexpert eye.)

Looks 3D printed to me.

"Engineered resin" probably means resin based 3D printing, where the part is made by zapping UV curing resins with a pinpoint light source.  These can be quite accurate, but generally not very strong parts, as the UV resin requirement limits the material used to flavors of epoxies and acrylics. A good quality FDM based 3D printer (the type that melts plastic filament) is capable of making stronger parts out of many types of plastic, including nylon.

The shearing force would be on the same plane as the the layers in a properly printed part.  This looks like a part that could successfully be FDM 3D printed in nylon, but the quality depends on who is doing the printing.  I would be reluctant to use a resin printed part. 

When Penn 720/722 crosswind blocks were unavailable for awhile, I 3D printed some and passed a few around to members. I asked for feedback on how they held up, got a little positive feedback, and nothing negative.

But now that Tom at Cortez is machining a 720/722 block(using  Ultem?), if anybody asked, I would probably just point them at Tom if they wanted a safe bet on a  durable part.

Worth taking Fred up on that offer.


-J

[PhillyJoe]

I'll definitely be taking Fred up on that offer. I wrote him about some DAM Quick parts also.

I got the clip from Mikes Reel Repair and it snapped into three pieces upon install.
i did apply some force with my finger to line up the clip with the shaft I didn't think I was overdoing it. This push was perpendicular to the pane of the layers and The predominant forces on the part would be in the pance of the layers...but I had to get it on first!

I have had similar experiences with printed parts my friend made for me to prototype some pro speaker parts. They could not stand any shear forces and delaminated almost immediately. And this was an (large and expensive)  FDM printer but I really can't attest to my friends skill and experience level with that machine! I think I was an early "customer!"

Given the otherwise outstanding quality of the Cardinal reels, It sure would be nice to have access to a stout metal replacement #8631.

[foakes]

I put them back in inventory, Joe —-
 
Will pull them back out.

Sorry the 3D printed part from Mike's fell apart.  Factory and metal all the way is the sure bet.

Got your address, and will mail off tomorrow, along with the DQ parts.

Too bushed today.  Just got back from Clovis & Fresno 15 minutes ago.

Put a new set of Michelin Defender 2's on the Outback at America's Tire.  $830.31

Got Chipper's claws manicured and cut.  $30

Walmart for Mobil 1 oil and a filter for the Outback, RoundUp, Ant Killer, some other small stuff.  $180.91

Home Depot for sprinkler repair stuff, air filters and spark plugs for the Honda mower, 30W oil, Miracle Grow, and other small stuff.  $152.39

Costco for Ribeyes, new stretch hose, Premier Protein drinks, Capris and Zories for Sue, and a few other items. $302.45

Ace Hardware for 40 lbs. of sunflower seeds.  $39.17

Marvels grocery store for 3 sacks of groceries.  $124.55

Auberry Feed Store for (2) 25 lb. Deer Protein Blocks.  $43.44

Gas fill-up at the Reservation.  $74.25.

9 stops and 124 miles round trip.

Probably kick back for the rest of the day before attending Church tonight.

Best, Fred

[PhillyJoe]

Many thanks indeed, Fred! No hurry whatsoever on my end. You and this whole site has been very helpful and educational for me and a great asset to my reel tinkering adventures although my studies here seem to result in a constant stream of reel-sized ebay packages...

Maybe I applied too much side force on that part from Mike's. I'd be more careful if I have to use another one.  I think cast or machined nylon would be a superior material but the printed part is better than nothing.

[Catching Nemo]

The eBay seller in the UK that sells the metal oscillation block is username spike-nigel

I bought one from him in 2021 via his eBay listing and it cost me about $29.  I have not seen him posting items on eBay for a while

I've always wondered whether the white plastic kitchen cutting board material would work as a DIY material for this oscillation block. It seems like sufficiently durable material, but may be difficult to get the exact dimensions and alignment when drilling the thru holes