Hardy altex no.2 mk.V Robert Marshall Scott strip and restore

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Woodbilly

Quote from: Gfish on June 13, 2024, 04:14:35 PMVery interesting construction. I gonna spend some time looking at this one. The gear box is one piece with access plates? Looks strong as can practically be. The handle knob looks to be some kinda rivet with an oil hole?
Thanks for all the detail.

Very unique reels, indeed. Solid body with only access hole in side and rear, where everything extracts from.
 Very well built and all hand fitted and assembled. Pretty cool for 90 year old reels. That's why they fetch high prices. Really special reels to strip and use.

Woodbilly

Spent a bunch of time final cleaning, before painting of flier, foot/stem, and handle knob.
I left dust cover stripped bare and body bare, for a reverse paint scheme.
I did not try to match original finish, but choose a color that seemed appropriate for the age and wasn't too flashy.
 Muted, rustic, classy.

First coat of Rustolem matte metallic and second coat of Dupli-Color cast grey with ceramic.

This gives a nice contrast backed by the brightwork and once small parts are on, will really pop.

I found why the reel initially had a catch. It appears the solder holding the flier shaft onto the flier was almost gone, causing the shaft to have slight rotational play.

I solved this by inserting a wooden skewer into the flier shaft, applying JB Weld onto the shaft flier mating area, where solder was previously, and letting this set up overnight.
The skewer worked perfectly to keep any epoxy out of sleeve.
Problem solved! Shaft holding firmly, now.

I painted foot and stem only, for a backwards paint from factory finish.
I also left inner bottom and top of flier bare. The underside doesn't matter, as dust cover hides it.
Flier inner where spool nests will be seen, so I painted inner walls of flier
and outer wall, as well.
I left bail arm pear cover stops bare metal for contrast, too.

Once this was done, original brown knob, just didn't fit. Painted it, too.

Just taped everything and used putty on smallest posts, handle rivet, and bail stops. Works great. Just mold over part you want protected for clean, easy, coverage to prevent overspray on unwanted areas.
Just pull it off after paint dries. Easy peasy.

I attempted to "pinstripe" area on body lines, but paint line was too thin to really notice it.
No biggie.

So far, coming along and almost ready for reassembly!

See ya soon!


sandbar

#17
Nice work!
I can't wait to see it assembled.

Woodbilly

Thank you! Got a bunch of hours into this one and have 2 more in the wings, waiting for a stripping.
 Lol

Woodbilly

Worked on getting the flier assembled with bail arm and trip lever, today.

Much easier 2nd go around on the spring bail Altex's.

Finished it up pretty painlessly and staple, for cotter pin, worked great, again.

Well, on to the next step!

Woodbilly


Woodbilly

Spent a couple hours knocking out getting the anti reverse switch, dust cover, and flier attached to the body.

Servicing the a/r switch via the side access hole, is impossible, or not a task I'd want to try and undertake.
Any work on it is much more doable stripped.

As shown, the switch spring goes in first, followed by switch, and lastly, the spring pressure holding pin.
The pin must be inserted into switch and backside of pin must go over the arched spring, so when switch is actuated, the holding pin puts pressure on the arched spring and keeps switch in place.
Very tricky getting everything in place, even with dust cover removed, Now that I've done it, easier.

Next was the a/r pawl, tension spring, and spring bushing.

Insert post screw in body first. Place pawl on inner protruding stud first, followed by spring, and then bushing. Tighten post screw, to lock everything in place.
As seen, the dust cover plate will put pressure on pawl spring, when it is installed.

Dust cover was simple install and then on to the infamous bearing stack. My favorite sandwich with a cold Pabst Blue Ribbon.

This one had 6 bearings, so one extra, than earlier Altex's. Another one to keep track of... joy.

Last, but not least, fit flier onto body and locked down collet.

Checked for smoothness, free spin, and bail trigger. All were flawless, so onto next step, installation of internal and external parts.

Woodbilly

Getting to the final stages of reassembly, after tonight's work!
  I got the final internal and external parts installed. Once again, I had to turn to office supplies to finish this reel.
The pawl must be pushed out of the way, while drive gear is inserted into handle bushing. Paper clip did the trick perfectly. Also, staple cotter pin, again.

Everything went really easy, even with two slider blocks. I'm going to install brass check carrier, spool, drag washers, and capstan, next, to finish this one up.

Anti reverse works fantastic and pawl clicker is very distinct.
Love it.

I also tried to post a picture of the pinstripe and color detail around rear badge. Very discreet,  but visible in hand.

Ill post up a finished video of reel when all wrapped up
Getting real close and definitely getting much, much easier to strip one of these reels.

  Enjoy some more pictures. Lol

sandbar

Great pictures.

What kind of lubrication did you use?

-Steve

Woodbilly

Quote from: sandbar on June 21, 2024, 12:01:36 PMGreat pictures.

What kind of lubrication did you use?

-Steve

 I used only light sewing machine oil. Will not gum up or dry out.
 On bearing cage, I only use a tiny bit of faucet valve grease, to hold bearings in place for stack and then I hit with oil, to thin it back down.

sandbar

I see one oil port on the handle side and it looks like the other is on the bottom.
Do you think the purpose for the one on the bottom is to drain any excess oil?
-Steve

Woodbilly

Quote from: sandbar on June 21, 2024, 02:25:50 PMI see one oil port on the handle side and it looks like the other is on the bottom.
Do you think the purpose for the one on the bottom is to drain any excess oil?
-Steve

No.its for oiling of worm gear. It sits right there.
 Side port is for drive gear, and bushing port is for handle post.

Woodbilly

Hey, all!
I got the reel all wrapped up and looking sweet!

Installed brass check carrier, spool, drag washers, and capstan, to complete this stripdown!

I found my "missing" fiber washer underneath a layer of grease, when cleaning the spool. Bonus in my favor, finally!

This one was a new challenge with the a/r switch, but conquered and definitely a learning experience for the next a/r Hardy I do.

Love the look of the reverse paint scheme after reel is fully assembled!
Wasn't sure about stripping all the way, but glad I did now. I have many original reels and sometimes, just want to do something different, but not extreme. I think I accomplished that with this mk.V

Love the robust pawl click of the a/r, as my other Hardys are no anti reverse.

I think this girl is gonna get some rotation in the vintage reel line up.
As soon as this weekend. Lol

Anyways, hope this helps anyone wanting to tackle a Hardy mk.V

Peace!

Woodbilly

Shine on you crazy diamond!

Working great! Handling big black crappie with ease!

sandbar

Beautiful work, Steven.
I will be attempting to disassemble and rebuild mine sometime in the near future. I'm sure that I will have questions. It cranks very rough.
-Steve